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On July 16 2010 02:04 MadVillain wrote:
Ok guys, I really want to believe that the videos shown are actually aliens. I'm a big sci fi buff and aliens visiting Earth would be a dream. But logic says that its just not likely at all, not even beyond an infinitesimal doubt.
Some one already posted the Carl Sagan quote, so I won't repeat it but yeah, there isn't an inkling of extraordinary evidence here. So its a UFO, and UNIDENTIFIED flying object, immediately labeling it of alien origin is just rash and isn't taking some basic logic skills into account.
First: There is absolutely no hard/physical evidence, maybe there will be in the future when they are done investigating, ie particles taken from its 'smoke trail', radiation readings, debris maybe. Pictures are NOT evidence that its an alien craft, hell the videos didn't even show it doing anything that a normal craft couldn't do.
Second: I'm sure you've heard the principel of Occam's razor which states that theory with the least assumptions is often the correct one. So lets apply that here.
Theory 1: It's some sort of human made craft, maybe government, maybe private (who knows it could be some guys aircraft he made in his backyard).
Theory 2: An alien spacecraft from hundreds to thousands of light years across the universe, after some how 'surveying' us, despite the fact that our radio signals have only traveled about 70 lyrs, decided to come to the Earth. This statement hides all the assumptions that are needed to make it reasonable.
Theory 2 assumptions:
1. Aliens exist (ok this assumption, in my opinion borders on fact given its extremely unlikely that aliens DON'T exist given the 200 billion starts int he galaxy)
2. These aliens evolved into highly sentient beings.
3. These aliens have survived for the thousands upon millions of years necessary to develop such technology, technology that according to our understanding of physics is impossible. (this statement in itself is backed by even more assumptions)
4. The aliens despite the infinitesimal chances found our planet and decided to visit it.
So which of these 2 theories seems more, likely, reasonable?
I really want to believe that aliens have visited earth because the thought that we'll never make contact with anything that hasn't originated on this planet makes me a little sick and sad. But it is a little silly to assume that every UFO is an alien craft.
You apparently didn't read my first post at all, because there is hard evidence of it. Hundreds of people saw it, it was covered by a ton of media outlets, it shut down an airport's air traffic, it was visible on their radar, and the Chinese government gave a statement about it. Nobody said every UFO is an alien craft. I personally think it's Chinese tech!
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Looks like the Protoss have located the Terran homeworld.
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On July 16 2010 05:26 Destro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2010 02:58 CharlieMurphy wrote:On July 16 2010 02:20 Destro wrote:
so the nearest star capable of having planets that could support life is 40 light years away. Even if they went the speed of light... (theoretically impossible) .... they took a 40 year journey to flash a big flashlight on a chinese airport?
really? Not sayin the video looks real or that aliens are real, but this argument I hear all the time and it is bad. Who knows what the fuck they are doing when they are floating around and/or flashing lights. Are they studying and observing us? Is it just a robotic probe? Is the light actually some kind of power related thing? Like seriously, if you assume they have the speed of light tech- then why assume that it's 'just a big flash light'? i was just being cheek. of course if its actually aliens i would have no idea what it is they are doing. a shitty windows movie maker slideshow of a bunch of grainy pictures on youtube. Im obviously convinced.
Another person that didn't even read the post. Just jumped onto the embedded slideshow.
Please for your sake read the post next time. Thanks.
And about the moon landing, I get so enraged when I see people who deny the moon landing happened. I wish I could pull a 1930 Soviet Russia purge on all of them.
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yeah china or ufo, either scares me a bit lol
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"Battlecruiser Operational"
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The video shows something similar to the malfunctioned Russian missile over Norway, and it's not nearly as spectacular.
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The closed mindedness people have that aliens are like bug eyed creatures with the ability to hover with zero propulsion on earth, a planet that surely will have completely unique gravitational effects is silly.
This isn't a UFO. I would bet 1000 dollars on that no problem. Its either some aircraft or something different, man made, not from some other planet.
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Just because people can come up with a down to earth explanation that is very very bad, that does not give credence to the idea that this is a UFO sighting. (so it is unidentified, but is it flying? And is it even an object, or just a light effect?)
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On July 16 2010 07:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
This isn't a UFO. I would bet 1000 dollars on that no problem. Its either some aircraft or something different, man made, not from some other planet.
I'll take your bet sir, identify that flying object and I'll send you your $1000, fail to correctly identify it and you send me the money ok? ^^
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On July 16 2010 06:22 Zealotdriver wrote:
Looks like the Protoss have located the Terran homeworld.
Unleash the planet cracker!
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If this is a military craft then china really screwed up.
What would warrant sending such a high profile piece of machinery to a civilian airport?
Lets use common sense here.
Fact: the object is flying
Fact: the object was seen above an airport...
Ummm can anyone add 1+1 here?
You think aliens would take the time to actually land at an airport if they came to "visit" us?
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On July 16 2010 08:27 Famehunter wrote:
If this is a military craft then china really screwed up.
What would warrant sending such a high profile piece of machinery to a civilian airport?
Lets use common sense here.
Fact: the object is flying
Fact: the object was seen above an airport...
Ummm can anyone add 1+1 here?
You think aliens would take the time to actually land at an airport if they came to "visit" us?
Haha, what. I thought common sense being put into play would also bring about the assumption that the aliens saw objects flying from said airport and floated above to investigate.
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On July 16 2010 06:15 xLethargicax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2010 02:04 MadVillain wrote:
Ok guys, I really want to believe that the videos shown are actually aliens. I'm a big sci fi buff and aliens visiting Earth would be a dream. But logic says that its just not likely at all, not even beyond an infinitesimal doubt.
Some one already posted the Carl Sagan quote, so I won't repeat it but yeah, there isn't an inkling of extraordinary evidence here. So its a UFO, and UNIDENTIFIED flying object, immediately labeling it of alien origin is just rash and isn't taking some basic logic skills into account.
First: There is absolutely no hard/physical evidence, maybe there will be in the future when they are done investigating, ie particles taken from its 'smoke trail', radiation readings, debris maybe. Pictures are NOT evidence that its an alien craft, hell the videos didn't even show it doing anything that a normal craft couldn't do.
Second: I'm sure you've heard the principel of Occam's razor which states that theory with the least assumptions is often the correct one. So lets apply that here.
Theory 1: It's some sort of human made craft, maybe government, maybe private (who knows it could be some guys aircraft he made in his backyard).
Theory 2: An alien spacecraft from hundreds to thousands of light years across the universe, after some how 'surveying' us, despite the fact that our radio signals have only traveled about 70 lyrs, decided to come to the Earth. This statement hides all the assumptions that are needed to make it reasonable.
Theory 2 assumptions:
1. Aliens exist (ok this assumption, in my opinion borders on fact given its extremely unlikely that aliens DON'T exist given the 200 billion starts int he galaxy)
2. These aliens evolved into highly sentient beings.
3. These aliens have survived for the thousands upon millions of years necessary to develop such technology, technology that according to our understanding of physics is impossible. (this statement in itself is backed by even more assumptions)
4. The aliens despite the infinitesimal chances found our planet and decided to visit it.
So which of these 2 theories seems more, likely, reasonable?
I really want to believe that aliens have visited earth because the thought that we'll never make contact with anything that hasn't originated on this planet makes me a little sick and sad. But it is a little silly to assume that every UFO is an alien craft.
You apparently didn't read my first post at all, because there is hard evidence of it. Hundreds of people saw it, it was covered by a ton of media outlets, it shut down an airport's air traffic, it was visible on their radar, and the Chinese government gave a statement about it. Nobody said every UFO is an alien craft. I personally think it's Chinese tech!
I meant hard evidence of it being an alien craft. I don't doubt that the people saw something. I'm just doubting that its ET's space ferrari. The flying object being Chinese is a much more likely prospect. I was talking to the people claiming its an alien craft.
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Hmmmm... from the linked video, it does look very military in nature!!
Looks like a experiment gone wrong!! The pictures make it look more like a UFO though!!!
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im so excited about aliens, i would really like to live so long we finally make a contact (or at least find other form of biochemistry in our solar system).
i would like to add one link and ask you if you know something about it or what your opinions are. Its about a man from portsmouth in england and he has hours and hours of UFO footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGYmW3Qq9CQ
What do you think those objects could be? (if it is not a fake) What I hate about this guy is that if these sightings happened on regular basis he should have gotten better device (with better resolution, optics and everything) and make his contribution to one of the greatest discoveries in human history - so maybe there goes his credibility.
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the tubelight in the sky pictures made me believe in aliens
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If this is a military craft then china really screwed up.
What would warrant sending such a high profile piece of machinery to a civilian airport?
Lets use common sense here.
Fact: the object is flying
Fact: the object was seen above an airport...
Ummm can anyone add 1+1 here?
You think aliens would take the time to actually land at an airport if they came to "visit" us?
Common sense is: We know nothing about why they're here, know nothing about what they're flying, know nothing about what they know ABOUT US.
They dont know what an airport is (im sure they're not stuipd though) they might be as interested in our airport as we are as interested in what the UFO is in general. They might not CARE if we see them at all, why would they want to hide their existence?
but regardless, i hope its a real alien.
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talking about possible alien intentions is pointless in my opinion.. if they came here, kidnapped all pandas, completely ignored our will to communicate with them and simply left - we couldnt say a thing.. they are aliens, they know their shit
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