EPT8.8 Earthquake hits Chile, Tsunami about to ensue - Page 6
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fight_or_flight
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
On February 28 2010 08:12 fight_or_flight wrote: I guess everyone in chile is gonna miss the tsl. I already missed the third place match... Even if the house falls down I WILL stay to see the final | ||
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HaruHaru
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coltrane
Chile988 Posts
On February 28 2010 07:01 obesechicken13 wrote: I would like to know exactly how the buildings were designed. Architecture always fascinates me. Could someone from Chile(or knowledgable) pm me with some info? Were the buildings designed with a movable foundation? E.g. the ground shakes, the house shakes with it so it doesn't crumble... Or what? Thicker walls? And what is the best place to hide from an earthquake. I know the arch of the doors are the strongest, but if you're at home, is it safer to go to your basement? or If you fear your house caving in maybe outside? What makes it that fewer people died in Chile than in Haiti... because this is important information. Imagine if an earthquake like this hit the California plate. o_O Anyways, I'm glad that the paranoia of the 1960 earthquake paid off. I really hope people from other parts of the world learn from this crisis. Gl TL Chileans. edit: reading about rebar supports in the walls going up to the higher walls and wooden structures. I really dont know accurate answers to each of your questions. The thing is, houses in Chile rarely have basements, the constructions here all have concrete and iron foundations unless they are made of light materials, like wood pannels. So making basements for a small house is just way to expensive.Thats a lot of work for just a basement, so basements are just for buildings built with big cranes. A building here in santiago collapsed his basement full of cars, the first floor is destroyed and the 3 restant floors are more inclined than the piza tower, so generally, dont go to basements. reference: http://www.3tv.cl/index.php?m=video&v=10487 And now, if you have a very little basement, then is a really safe place to be buried alive, or get rescued if you are lucky. So you should just get out of your house, or if you cant (i live in a third floor) get away of everything that could hit you (books, shelves, TVs) get a good cover like a table, or a chair. Actually the very best thing you can do is to lay down next to a sofa, in the gound, so while the ceiling dont fall in pieces you will survive to get rescued later. Of course, that if the sailing falls at all. Bad ideas: getting crouch to a wall, especially if is an outer wall. Going to the basement. Running down stairs (you should have seen the stairs here, they did look like a huge boa trying to run away from its captors) I just go to the center of the construccion (they collapse from the walls) next to a pillar under a chain. In my place the best place is the outside door, next to the stairs. replica! its off now... i think was something like 4.5, thats pretty normal here. shit, 1 min and still moving. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On February 28 2010 06:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I love how the surfers at Hawaii and sail boats are waiting for the wave. What?... | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On MSNBC they said all the boats had been moved out, and how police were having to issue warning to surfers who were attempting to stay in the ocean in hopes of surfing the waves. | ||
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trulla
Chile303 Posts
First of all, I would like to point some things for people who are not familiar with earthquakes, and for your better understanding. Also, please excuse my english, which is not very good. 1- I live in Santiago, where the magnitude of the earthquake was 7.0 Richter, which is HUGE, but not even close as it was in Concepcion (8.3), much nearer to the epicenter. (About Richter and Mercalli scales: Richter is a scientific scale, based on the amount of energy released by an earthquake. It basically measures how much the ground moves. Also, It's a logarithmical scale, so for example, a 8.8 earthquake releases 400 times more energy than a 7.0 (like the one in Haiti). Mercalli scale, on the other hand, measures how the earthquake is perceived by the population, this means, how many buildings collapsed, massive panic, etc..) 2- I live in a big house on a hill on the north-east part of the city. From here, I can see a good portion of the city. 3- Chile is a country prepared for earthquakes and tsunamis. That's why there won't be many casualties, like in Haiti last month. I was at home with two friends that came here. We were having some drinks and some other recreational drug. One of them (this is the guy with the worse luck ever, he could write a FAIL diary or something like that) was celebrating his birthday (at 12.00 we forgot about it, but then a girld called him to wish him happy b/d.. lol). At 3:34 AM we noticed that there was an earthquake coming. It started very slow, we all here in Chile are very used to this kind of phenomenom, so we didn't take it so serious. I have a huge respect for earthquakes and my non-lucky friend too. So we stayed alert the first few seconds of movement, which was increasing constantly for about 40 seconds. Then we realized it was no longer safe, and then we went to put ourselves right under the doorframe, which is the safiest spot on every building. When we were here... OMG... how to explain how much fear we had. Many people won't even imagine how scary the scene was. First of all, this is not just about the ground movement, which was HUGE... I mean you couldn't stand up, you couldn't walk. But you have to add the noise. Not just the alarms from the cars, the dogs, the screams.. Add the noise made by the house, the windows, the structure itself, stuff (bottles, glasses, books) falling from the furniture to the floor. And the biggest and most scary noise is made by The Earth... a terrible noise, since the rocks way under our foot are actually REALLY moving. You won't notice this sound in a small earthquake.. only in very very big ones. Then the lights. All the house was moving, and lights and screens went off, then went on again, then off permanently. I actually saw the whole portion of the city that can be seen from the house going dark in a matter of seconds, as the sky was illuminated by a bright blue light shocks generated by electrical explosions. It was some sort of apocalypse. And of course, it wouldn't stop, it would never stop. I remember just desperately hoping it would stop, I thought about all the chilean families losing everything in that very moment, people dying... I'm very thankful that I was safe, and that I was not alone. Every single person I've talked to, actually believed that this could be it, the end of the world, like an apocalypse or something. In Chile, we always expect an earthquake, it's coming, sooner or later. But we don't expect something THIS huge.. This reminds me that us, humans, are just guests in the Earth, and that natural forces can own and rape us so bad in any minute. I sincerely hope every TL Chilean member is safe, as their close friends and family. ¡¡ FUERZA CHILE CTM !! | ||
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mg
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Silvanel
Poland4709 Posts
On February 28 2010 07:36 micronesia wrote: Hahahaha @db. If someone can point me to a place that has no risk of natural disasters I'll be delighted to move there :3 Here in Poland You dont have to worry about them at all. No earthquakes no hurricans. We have floods ocasionaly, but for example in my city (Lódź) even that is notlikely (there are no big rivers nearby). | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On February 28 2010 08:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: On MSNBC they said all the boats had been moved out, and how police were having to issue warning to surfers who were attempting to stay in the ocean in hopes of surfing the waves. You have to be a serious bad ass to try to surf a tsunami. | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
On February 28 2010 08:47 trulla wrote: MY EXPERIENCE First of all, I would like to point some things for people who are not familiar with earthquakes, and for your better understanding. Also, please excuse my english, which is not very good. 1- I live in Santiago, where the magnitude of the earthquake was 7.0 Richter, which is HUGE, but not even close as it was in Concepcion (8.3), much nearer to the epicenter. (About Richter and Mercalli scales: Richter is a scientific scale, based on the amount of energy released by an earthquake. It basically measures how much the ground moves. Also, It's a logarithmical scale, so for example, a 8.8 earthquake releases 400 times more energy than a 7.0 (like the one in Haiti). Mercalli scale, on the other hand, measures how the earthquake is perceived by the population, this means, how many buildings collapsed, massive panic, etc..) 2- I live in a big house on a hill on the north-east part of the city. From here, I can see a good portion of the city. 3- Chile is a country prepared for earthquakes and tsunamis. That's why there won't be many casualties, like in Haiti last month. I was at home with two friends that came here. We were having some drinks and some other recreational drug. One of them (this is the guy with the worse luck ever, he could write a FAIL diary or something like that) was celebrating his birthday (at 12.00 we forgot about it, but then a girld called him to wish him happy b/d.. lol). At 3:34 AM we noticed that there was an earthquake coming. It started very slow, we all here in Chile are very used to this kind of phenomenom, so we didn't take it so serious. I have a huge respect for earthquakes and my non-lucky friend too. So we stayed alert the first few seconds of movement, which was increasing constantly for about 40 seconds. Then we realized it was no longer safe, and then we went to put ourselves right under the doorframe, which is the safiest spot on every building. When we were here... OMG... how to explain how much fear we had. Many people won't even imagine how scary the scene was. First of all, this is not just about the ground movement, which was HUGE... I mean you couldn't stand up, you couldn't walk. But you have to add the noise. Not just the alarms from the cars, the dogs, the screams.. Add the noise made by the house, the windows, the structure itself, stuff (bottles, glasses, books) falling from the furniture to the floor. And the biggest and most scary noise is made by The Earth... a terrible noise, since the rocks way under our foot are actually REALLY moving. You won't notice this sound in a small earthquake.. only in very very big ones. Then the lights. All the house was moving, and lights and screens went off, then went on again, then off permanently. I actually saw the whole portion of the city that can be seen from the house going dark in a matter of seconds, as the sky was illuminated by a bright blue light shocks generated by electrical explosions. It was some sort of apocalypse. And of course, it wouldn't stop, it would never stop. I remember just desperately hoping it would stop, I thought about all the chilean families losing everything in that very moment, people dying... I'm very thankful that I was safe, and that I was not alone. Every single person I've talked to, actually believed that this could be it, the end of the world, like an apocalypse or something. In Chile, we always expect an earthquake, it's coming, sooner or later. But we don't expect something THIS huge.. This reminds me that us, humans, are just guests in the Earth, and that natural forces can own and rape us so bad in any minute. I sincerely hope every TL Chilean member is safe, as their close friends and family. ¡¡ FUERZA CHILE CTM !! Nice read, was a similar experience for me... i was playing sc:bw in lan with my girlfriend's brother, he was send me like always a lurker rush into my door and i was with my bunker and turret getting hits, when my gf come to my door and said.. ¡the ground its movin! I said to her: ¡cmon don panic its just and usual earthq... fuck!! run!! We go outside to my garden and the spectacle begun.. my swimmingpool start to shake and send water into air.. all the garden get wet, and the lights go off, many flashes start to appear in the outside corner of my house, the electric post start to bright with blue and white explosions, the car alarms, the house, all around us start to crumble. We take our hand and the ground behind us start to move in all directions... we felt like the end of the world has started... 3 minutes of panic and dispair. And at the end, we breath again, our dog was behind us trembling like us. We slept outside, collect water, food and started to make phonecalls (the lines went out for many hours), and we turn on a radio (only way to get news)... 61 replicas has passed in less than 24 hours. But we are calm now. ps: like i said in my first post, i ill happy to learn some better way to face a 2 hatch ling-lurker attack than a cataclysmic phenomena XD ps2: Un abrazo para todos los chilenos de TL.net, que gusto saber que están bien. | ||
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Murdoink
Chile1219 Posts
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killanator
United States549 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
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konadora
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
Someone asked why there were less deaths in Chile than in Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere - the structural integrity of the buildings was nonexistent and the infrastructure of the rescuers (police, etc) was extremely fragile. Chile is not in the same situation as Haiti and can thus deal with this in a much better way and save more lives. | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
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grevenchile
Chile118 Posts
apart from the tragedy in the south and old buildings in every city. something awesome you could see in the streets after the earthquake was the moon giving natural light over the city. it was actually a pretty nice visual. of course as the night advanced everything was getting darker while we were waiting for the replicas On February 28 2010 10:13 choboPEon wrote: Not entirely sure if this has been answered but: Someone asked why there were less deaths in Chile than in Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere - the structural integrity of the buildings was nonexistent and the infrastructure of the rescuers (police, etc) was extremely fragile. Chile is not in the same situation as Haiti and can thus deal with this in a much better way and save more lives. exactly, when an earthquake hit, building are suposed to go with the earthquake movement so the base of the house/building doesnt break | ||
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Sadist
United States7206 Posts
On February 28 2010 07:36 micronesia wrote: Hahahaha @db. If someone can point me to a place that has no risk of natural disasters I'll be delighted to move there :3 michigan doesnt really have any. only the rare tornado. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On February 28 2010 07:36 micronesia wrote: Hahahaha @db. If someone can point me to a place that has no risk of natural disasters I'll be delighted to move there :3 never had any here in this northern part of canada | ||
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