All Chilean websites are down T.T This is fucking nasty . I hope all injuries and damage is minimized and I hope evacuation occurs in the ensuing tsunamis are taken seriously and everyone evacuates immediately. I really hope the world shapes up and helps out like they did with Haiti, only this time its a lot more serious(the Haitian earthquake was a 7.0, this one is about a 100 times stronger-I think its done logarithmically.) Sorry for the poor thread, but I am just informing TL, and I hope all the chileans out there are safe, and the people in the pacific ocean's side evacuate immediately as possible.
Tsunami threat locations: CHILE / PERU / ECUADOR / COLOMBIA / ANTARCTICA / PANAMA / COSTA RICA / NICARAGUA / PITCAIRN / HONDURAS / EL SALVADOR / GUATEMALA / FR. POLYNESIA / MEXICO / COOK ISLANDS / KIRIBATI / KERMADEC IS / NIUE / NEW ZEALAND / TONGA / AMERICAN SAMOA / SAMOA / JARVIS IS. / WALLIS-FUTUNA / TOKELAU / FIJI / AUSTRALIA / HAWAII / PALMYRA IS. / TUVALU / VANUATU / HOWLAND-BAKER / NEW CALEDONIA / JOHNSTON IS. / SOLOMON IS. / NAURU / MARSHALL IS. / MIDWAY IS. / KOSRAE / PAPUA NEW GUINEA / POHNPEI / WAKE IS. / CHUUK / RUSSIA / MARCUS IS. / INDONESIA / N. MARIANAS / GUAM / YAP / BELAU / JAPAN / PHILIPPINES / CHINESE TAIPEI
I'm in the dealer waiting room so I can't ckeck the links but that sounds horrible. I hope the affected places have the infrastructure to alert and move people.
On February 28 2010 00:23 micronesia wrote: I'm in the dealer waiting room so I can't ckeck the links but that sounds horrible. I hope the affected places have the infrastructure to alert and move people.
The communications are down . And the chilean websites are also down
My GF lives in Santigo, at the time of the earthquake we were talking on MSN and she disconnected. I assumed that her internet went down or something so i went to sleep.
About three hours ago my brother woke me up with the news and i've been worried like hell since then; shaking and with my hands freezing cold.
But a few minutes ago i was able to communicate with her and she's fine.
Good god, 8,8 is just insane, good thing Chile was rather well prepared.
Chile is a much wealthier country than Haiti though and have a history of earthquakes. So they're going to handle this earthquake a hell of a lot better than Haiti. A lot of people should have their own disaster recovery packages.
But 8.8 is strong and the tsunamis look like they're serious business. I hope not a lot of people get hurt and it's just damage to infrastructure.
Im fine, im from chile.. this earthquake was 50 times more powerful than Haití, 8,8 in Richter Scale, but now we have only 85 deads, (chileans architects and engineers are fkng good)the 2 major cities of our country felt the more energy from this earth movement, but no major catastrophe are registered, more than 20 replica have passed from the first strike... the ground still are moving.
I feel like the end of the world coming, but now all of us are calm.
ps: I was playing sc:bw when the eqke started, at least i find some strat for defend me from a 2 hatch lurker rush with terran... i just need a fkng big earthquake!
On February 28 2010 00:33 No_eL wrote: Im fine, im from chile.. this earthquake was 50 times more powerful than Haití, 8,8 in Richter Scale, but now we have only 85 deads, (chileans architects and engineers are fkng good)the 2 major cities of our country felt the more energy from this earth movement, but no major catastrophe are registered, more than 20 replica have passed from the first strike... the ground still are moving.
I feel like the end of the world coming, but now all of us are calm.
ps: I was playing sc:bw when the eqke started, at least i find some strat for defend me from a 2 hatch lurker rush with terran... i just need a fkng big earthquake!
^___^ I am really happy that the damage is minimized. Considering Chile has a history of earthquakes, the infrastructure has been designed to stop that. The death count although still sad( its surprisingly low and great)
Thanks for communicating with us and informing us.
On February 28 2010 00:33 No_eL wrote: Im fine, im from chile.. this earthquake was 50 times more powerful than Haití, 8,8 in Richter Scale, but now we have only 85 deads, (chileans architects and engineers are fkng good)the 2 major cities of our country felt the more energy from this earth movement, but no major catastrophe are registered, more than 20 replica have passed from the first strike... the ground still are moving.
I feel like the end of the world coming, but now all of us are calm.
ps: I was playing sc:bw when the eqke started, at least i find some strat for defend me from a 2 hatch lurker rush with terran... i just need a fkng big earthquake!
the epicenter was only 70 miles (~100k) away from Concepcion, Chile's second largest city. This new, 5th largest (recorded) earthquake is in the same location as the largest earthquake ever recorded that devestated chile in the 60s. The USGS survey shows that a handfull of smaller (5-6.0 magnitude) earthquakes have occurred late yesterday and earlier today at other locations in chile.
christ, i have a friend visiting chile right now and i'm just F5'ing her facebook page waiting for an update or something. No_el, thanks for posting, it's good to see that this won't be as devastating as the haiti earthquake.
On February 28 2010 01:42 TimmyMac wrote: Chile has a history of earthquakes - they should be well prepared and the damages will be far less than Haiti.
And the usa better be prepared for all those meteors, earthquakes and early winters.
more than 30 replicas up to 6 richter are recorded until now. 122 victims, and some old buildings destroyed, plus cutted highroads and of course many minor losses like pcs, cars, etc. But we are fine right now, the people in my country are strong and very well adpated for this kind of natural disorders. I hope the tsunami dont rise ond japan or other places. Im very proud of our urbanists, technics, scientists and architects. I hope the worse part has passed.
ps: i think that a massive beta key for chile users would help to raise the urban mood =) cmon blizzard!! u can help us!
No_eL, i am watching news right now and i am very impressed with the engineering in your cities. i have visited chile twice and it is sad to see the damage. Are you in santiago? and i agree... SOMEBODY GET THESE PEOPLE SOME BETA KEYS
On February 28 2010 00:19 samachking wrote: Tsunami threat locations: CHILE / PERU / ECUADOR / COLOMBIA / ANTARCTICA / PANAMA / COSTA RICA / NICARAGUA / PITCAIRN / HONDURAS / EL SALVADOR / GUATEMALA / FR. POLYNESIA / MEXICO / COOK ISLANDS / KIRIBATI / KERMADEC IS / NIUE / NEW ZEALAND / TONGA / AMERICAN SAMOA / SAMOA / JARVIS IS. / WALLIS-FUTUNA / TOKELAU / FIJI / AUSTRALIA / HAWAII / PALMYRA IS. / TUVALU / VANUATU / HOWLAND-BAKER / NEW CALEDONIA / JOHNSTON IS. / SOLOMON IS. / NAURU / MARSHALL IS. / MIDWAY IS. / KOSRAE / PAPUA NEW GUINEA / POHNPEI / WAKE IS. / CHUUK / RUSSIA / MARCUS IS. / INDONESIA / N. MARIANAS / GUAM / YAP / BELAU / JAPAN / PHILIPPINES / CHINESE TAIPEI
122 is still a shockingly low death toll for a earthquake that powerful. I guess Chile must be very well prepared for earthquakes compared to most nations.
Scary news, but I'm very glad to hear that Chile is prepared and it's not as bad as it could have been, especially for such a large quake. My regards to all of our Chilean TLers and their families/friends!
On February 28 2010 02:03 mainezzz wrote: No_eL, i am watching news right now and i am very impressed with the engineering in your cities. i have visited chile twice and it is sad to see the damage. Are you in santiago? and i agree... SOMEBODY GET THESE PEOPLE SOME BETA KEYS
yes, im in santiago.
The major reason about our incredible engineering and buildings its the paranoia after 60`s valdivia earthquake, that event was cataclysmic, the whole geography changed, boats in the mountains, cities turned in lakes, etc.. after that and because of constantly minor and mid earthquakes because nazca plate, forged a national spirit and knowledge about this kind of event, i think we have the best experts in the world in this issue.
I saw the cailing moving like a sheet on a water bed.
I am usualy cool with quakes, so i didnt panic at all, like many people here in my neighbourhood.
Here in santiago some old buildings are in the ground some new 20 floor buildings are in danger of falling soon, but the damage and deaths are amazingly low.
Some highways are broken, at least 5 towns and small cities are complete devasted, The poorest people always get the most damage,
i am still getting in touch with my family and friends.
in hawaii now, prepared with emergency supplies and waiting in a safe area - the roads up the mountain are filled with people getting away from the standard tsunami evacuation areas
expecting first wave of tsunami at 11 AM HST (-10 GMT)
most signs are pointing towards small waves only for the first wave - not expecting much damage.
This was a great article in the Times the other day, Chile seems to be much better prepared than many other countries. If an earthquake hits one of these cities....
On February 28 2010 03:00 coltrane wrote: the earthquake was very very impressive.
I saw the cailing moving like a sheet on a water bed.
I am usualy cool with quakes, so i didnt panic at all, like many people here in my neighbourhood.
Here in santiago some old buildings are in the ground some new 20 floor buildings are in danger of falling soon, but the damage and deaths are amazingly low.
Some highways are broken, at least 5 towns and small cities are complete devasted, The poorest people always get the most damage,
i am still getting in touch with my family and friends.
That's reassuring to hear
Are there any donation efforts popping up? I like to volunteer, so...
more than 30 replicas up to 6 richter are recorded until now. 122 victims, and some old buildings destroyed, plus cutted highroads and of course many minor losses like pcs, cars, etc. But we are fine right now, the people in my country are strong and very well adpated for this kind of natural disorders. I hope the tsunami dont rise ond japan or other places. Im very proud of our urbanists, technics, scientists and architects. I hope the worse part has passed.
ps: i think that a massive beta key for chile users would help to raise the urban mood =) cmon blizzard!! u can help us!
I lold! Thats the spirit! Still praying for Chile and anyone else who might get the tsunami
Wow this is crazy. I just saw and article about this on yahoo when i was about to check my e-mail for a beta key. to put it in perspective, i'm pretty sure that the earthquake that hit Haiti was a 7.1, and each number jump is about double the power, so the fact that so few people died, despite the fact that the epicenter was right next to a major city of about 670,000 people and near santiago, a city of over 5 million, is nothing short of a miracle.
I'm glad to see that the Chilean members of the community are ok, and blizzard should definitely give them beta keys to up the moral, and for being loyal customers.
On February 28 2010 03:00 coltrane wrote: the earthquake was very very impressive.
I saw the cailing moving like a sheet on a water bed.
I am usualy cool with quakes, so i didnt panic at all, like many people here in my neighbourhood.
Here in santiago some old buildings are in the ground some new 20 floor buildings are in danger of falling soon, but the damage and deaths are amazingly low.
Some highways are broken, at least 5 towns and small cities are complete devasted, The poorest people always get the most damage,
i am still getting in touch with my family and friends.
That's reassuring to hear
Are there any donation efforts popping up? I like to volunteer, so...
nvm,our country its very well prepared, haiti and other countries from africa need more backup than us.
ps: If u want help somebody u still can buy me a ticket for korea, i ll be happy to go with you for some fun in a msl/osl or proleague event XD
On February 28 2010 03:12 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: i'm pretty sure that the earthquake that hit Haiti was a 7.1, and each number jump is about double the power,
Each number jump is 10x the power, and this was almost two magnitudes higher O_O crazy, glad to hear Chile seems to be dealing with it okay.
And 8.8 is absolutely ridiculous. I applaud Chile for having such good preparation... the low amount of devastation is absolutely amazing for an earthquake of that magnitude. I hope everybody's okay down there O_o
8.8 is crazy. I'm impressed Chile is weathering it so well, both the engineering, construction, and the laws must be great there for there to be such "relatively" little damage.
Probably no comfort to the relatives of the dead, though.
On February 28 2010 01:32 neVern wrote: HAAAAARRRPPPPPP!!!!
thought of this too, but chile is a natural earthquake area, i am not sure yet if this could be a haarp attack/test.
i would have thought more of venezuela and iran as an aim for haarp like events. indonesia and haiti surely where tests and the atomic "testing" that is used to pull haarps full potential were confirmed, waiting for that oceanic "testing" to be confirmed for this too.
allegedly the tsunamis are expected to only reach like 8 feet in height instead of the massive walls of water that we've come to associate with tsunamis. at least that's encouraging
On February 28 2010 00:33 No_eL wrote: ps: I was playing sc:bw when the eqke started, at least i find some strat for defend me from a 2 hatch lurker rush with terran... i just need a fkng big earthquake!
I'm sorry, but you have the single greatest crisis management ability I've ever seen. LOL.
On a more serious note, hope everyone is doing ok, Haiti's buildings were bad so the damage and Haiti is most likely alot more, Chile has a decent building code.
Crazy story here, i was allying belladona for 2;2 and we were on vent together when the earthquake hit, he said "oh shit i gotta go" and he threw off his headset and ran away and all i heard of vent was just the sounds of everything shaking and grumbling it was fucking crazy, i was the first person to know about this earthquake outside of chile LOL
I would like to know exactly how the buildings were designed. Architecture always fascinates me. Could someone from Chile(or knowledgable) pm me with some info?
Were the buildings designed with a movable foundation? E.g. the ground shakes, the house shakes with it so it doesn't crumble... Or what? Thicker walls?
And what is the best place to hide from an earthquake. I know the arch of the doors are the strongest, but if you're at home, is it safer to go to your basement? or If you fear your house caving in maybe outside? What makes it that fewer people died in Chile than in Haiti... because this is important information.
Imagine if an earthquake like this hit the California plate. o_O
Anyways, I'm glad that the paranoia of the 1960 earthquake paid off. I really hope people from other parts of the world learn from this crisis. Gl TL Chileans.
edit: reading about rebar supports in the walls going up to the higher walls and wooden structures.
On February 28 2010 07:01 obesechicken13 wrote: What makes it that fewer people died in Chile than in Haiti... because this is important information
Just from what I understand its 1) no very large population immediately near to the epicenter - the earthquake occurred roughly halfway between Santiago and Concepcion rather than right next to one of those two large cities as was the case in Haiti, and 2) Chile is just much better prepared for this infrastructure-wise.
Sounds like the Tsunami waves are just hitting Hawaii as we speak. My thoughts are with everyone affected by the earthquake and the Tsunami that's rolling across the Pacific atm.
On February 28 2010 07:01 obesechicken13 wrote: What makes it that fewer people died in Chile than in Haiti... because this is important information
Just from what I understand its 1) no very large population immediately near to the epicenter - the earthquake occurred roughly halfway between Santiago and Concepcion rather than right next to one of those two large cities as was the case in Haiti, and 2) Chile is just much better prepared for this infrastructure-wise.
Sounds like the Tsunami waves are just hitting Hawaii as we speak. My thoughts are with everyone affected by the earthquake and the Tsunami that's rolling across the Pacific atm.
We have good structures, by law. Haiti is the poorest contry on our continent. We just have earthquakes every year. This one, was pretty hard.
We were having a LAN party with some friends, playing left4dead2, hapily slaying mass of zombis and.. HOLYCRAP earth started shaking and everyone was like wtf?! at first, earthquakes are nothing new here but there's always some uneasy feeling when you feel the floor breakdancing down your feets. So yeah, we got out of the house asap when we saw that it was no ordinary earthquake. Stuff was shaking like crazy but nothing got hurt really bad in my neightbourhood. The worst thing was a chick like 2 house aways that got locked inside her house and we had to break the door to let her out.
After that, we got some waiting to do, cause you don't really want to get back inside in the case that earth decides to do some encore show. From 3.30 AM to like 5AM with occasional shakings, worrying sick about family and friends cause telecomunication were out of services. Eventually we decided to come back inside and slept near the exit.
action packed night but the good thing is that no1 in the vincinity got hurt.
I have got to admint, last night i saw the most amazing things on a nearly surrealist wake up, i was drunk and got sober, but not much, i saw thousands of liters of water dancing above the pool like some kind of liquid pistons, with some beautifull drop shapes while everything was tumnling around me, dancing an infernal theme of tears and glassbreaking reaction.
The deaths count is on 214 and growing. Still no news about the tsunami on Talcahuano.
On February 28 2010 07:01 obesechicken13 wrote: I would like to know exactly how the buildings were designed. Architecture always fascinates me. Could someone from Chile(or knowledgable) pm me with some info?
Were the buildings designed with a movable foundation? E.g. the ground shakes, the house shakes with it so it doesn't crumble... Or what? Thicker walls?
And what is the best place to hide from an earthquake. I know the arch of the doors are the strongest, but if you're at home, is it safer to go to your basement? or If you fear your house caving in maybe outside? What makes it that fewer people died in Chile than in Haiti... because this is important information.
Imagine if an earthquake like this hit the California plate. o_O
Anyways, I'm glad that the paranoia of the 1960 earthquake paid off. I really hope people from other parts of the world learn from this crisis. Gl TL Chileans.
edit: reading about rebar supports in the walls going up to the higher walls and wooden structures.
I really dont know accurate answers to each of your questions.
The thing is, houses in Chile rarely have basements, the constructions here all have concrete and iron foundations unless they are made of light materials, like wood pannels. So making basements for a small house is just way to expensive.Thats a lot of work for just a basement, so basements are just for buildings built with big cranes. A building here in santiago collapsed his basement full of cars, the first floor is destroyed and the 3 restant floors are more inclined than the piza tower, so generally, dont go to basements.
And now, if you have a very little basement, then is a really safe place to be buried alive, or get rescued if you are lucky. So you should just get out of your house, or if you cant (i live in a third floor) get away of everything that could hit you (books, shelves, TVs) get a good cover like a table, or a chair.
Actually the very best thing you can do is to lay down next to a sofa, in the gound, so while the ceiling dont fall in pieces you will survive to get rescued later. Of course, that if the sailing falls at all.
Bad ideas: getting crouch to a wall, especially if is an outer wall. Going to the basement. Running down stairs (you should have seen the stairs here, they did look like a huge boa trying to run away from its captors) I just go to the center of the construccion (they collapse from the walls) next to a pillar under a chain. In my place the best place is the outside door, next to the stairs.
replica! its off now... i think was something like 4.5, thats pretty normal here.
On February 28 2010 06:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I love how the surfers at Hawaii and sail boats are waiting for the wave.
What?...
On MSNBC they said all the boats had been moved out, and how police were having to issue warning to surfers who were attempting to stay in the ocean in hopes of surfing the waves.
First of all, I would like to point some things for people who are not familiar with earthquakes, and for your better understanding. Also, please excuse my english, which is not very good.
1- I live in Santiago, where the magnitude of the earthquake was 7.0 Richter, which is HUGE, but not even close as it was in Concepcion (8.3), much nearer to the epicenter.
(About Richter and Mercalli scales: Richter is a scientific scale, based on the amount of energy released by an earthquake. It basically measures how much the ground moves. Also, It's a logarithmical scale, so for example, a 8.8 earthquake releases 400 times more energy than a 7.0 (like the one in Haiti). Mercalli scale, on the other hand, measures how the earthquake is perceived by the population, this means, how many buildings collapsed, massive panic, etc..)
2- I live in a big house on a hill on the north-east part of the city. From here, I can see a good portion of the city.
3- Chile is a country prepared for earthquakes and tsunamis. That's why there won't be many casualties, like in Haiti last month.
I was at home with two friends that came here. We were having some drinks and some other recreational drug. One of them (this is the guy with the worse luck ever, he could write a FAIL diary or something like that) was celebrating his birthday (at 12.00 we forgot about it, but then a girld called him to wish him happy b/d.. lol).
At 3:34 AM we noticed that there was an earthquake coming. It started very slow, we all here in Chile are very used to this kind of phenomenom, so we didn't take it so serious. I have a huge respect for earthquakes and my non-lucky friend too. So we stayed alert the first few seconds of movement, which was increasing constantly for about 40 seconds. Then we realized it was no longer safe, and then we went to put ourselves right under the doorframe, which is the safiest spot on every building. When we were here... OMG... how to explain how much fear we had. Many people won't even imagine how scary the scene was. First of all, this is not just about the ground movement, which was HUGE... I mean you couldn't stand up, you couldn't walk. But you have to add the noise. Not just the alarms from the cars, the dogs, the screams.. Add the noise made by the house, the windows, the structure itself, stuff (bottles, glasses, books) falling from the furniture to the floor. And the biggest and most scary noise is made by The Earth... a terrible noise, since the rocks way under our foot are actually REALLY moving. You won't notice this sound in a small earthquake.. only in very very big ones. Then the lights. All the house was moving, and lights and screens went off, then went on again, then off permanently. I actually saw the whole portion of the city that can be seen from the house going dark in a matter of seconds, as the sky was illuminated by a bright blue light shocks generated by electrical explosions. It was some sort of apocalypse. And of course, it wouldn't stop, it would never stop. I remember just desperately hoping it would stop, I thought about all the chilean families losing everything in that very moment, people dying... I'm very thankful that I was safe, and that I was not alone.
Every single person I've talked to, actually believed that this could be it, the end of the world, like an apocalypse or something. In Chile, we always expect an earthquake, it's coming, sooner or later. But we don't expect something THIS huge..
This reminds me that us, humans, are just guests in the Earth, and that natural forces can own and rape us so bad in any minute.
I sincerely hope every TL Chilean member is safe, as their close friends and family.
On February 28 2010 07:36 micronesia wrote: Hahahaha @db.
If someone can point me to a place that has no risk of natural disasters I'll be delighted to move there :3
Here in Poland You dont have to worry about them at all. No earthquakes no hurricans. We have floods ocasionaly, but for example in my city (Lódź) even that is notlikely (there are no big rivers nearby).
On February 28 2010 06:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I love how the surfers at Hawaii and sail boats are waiting for the wave.
What?...
On MSNBC they said all the boats had been moved out, and how police were having to issue warning to surfers who were attempting to stay in the ocean in hopes of surfing the waves.
You have to be a serious bad ass to try to surf a tsunami.
On February 28 2010 08:47 trulla wrote: MY EXPERIENCE
First of all, I would like to point some things for people who are not familiar with earthquakes, and for your better understanding. Also, please excuse my english, which is not very good.
1- I live in Santiago, where the magnitude of the earthquake was 7.0 Richter, which is HUGE, but not even close as it was in Concepcion (8.3), much nearer to the epicenter.
(About Richter and Mercalli scales: Richter is a scientific scale, based on the amount of energy released by an earthquake. It basically measures how much the ground moves. Also, It's a logarithmical scale, so for example, a 8.8 earthquake releases 400 times more energy than a 7.0 (like the one in Haiti). Mercalli scale, on the other hand, measures how the earthquake is perceived by the population, this means, how many buildings collapsed, massive panic, etc..)
2- I live in a big house on a hill on the north-east part of the city. From here, I can see a good portion of the city.
3- Chile is a country prepared for earthquakes and tsunamis. That's why there won't be many casualties, like in Haiti last month.
I was at home with two friends that came here. We were having some drinks and some other recreational drug. One of them (this is the guy with the worse luck ever, he could write a FAIL diary or something like that) was celebrating his birthday (at 12.00 we forgot about it, but then a girld called him to wish him happy b/d.. lol).
At 3:34 AM we noticed that there was an earthquake coming. It started very slow, we all here in Chile are very used to this kind of phenomenom, so we didn't take it so serious. I have a huge respect for earthquakes and my non-lucky friend too. So we stayed alert the first few seconds of movement, which was increasing constantly for about 40 seconds. Then we realized it was no longer safe, and then we went to put ourselves right under the doorframe, which is the safiest spot on every building. When we were here... OMG... how to explain how much fear we had. Many people won't even imagine how scary the scene was. First of all, this is not just about the ground movement, which was HUGE... I mean you couldn't stand up, you couldn't walk. But you have to add the noise. Not just the alarms from the cars, the dogs, the screams.. Add the noise made by the house, the windows, the structure itself, stuff (bottles, glasses, books) falling from the furniture to the floor. And the biggest and most scary noise is made by The Earth... a terrible noise, since the rocks way under our foot are actually REALLY moving. You won't notice this sound in a small earthquake.. only in very very big ones. Then the lights. All the house was moving, and lights and screens went off, then went on again, then off permanently. I actually saw the whole portion of the city that can be seen from the house going dark in a matter of seconds, as the sky was illuminated by a bright blue light shocks generated by electrical explosions. It was some sort of apocalypse. And of course, it wouldn't stop, it would never stop. I remember just desperately hoping it would stop, I thought about all the chilean families losing everything in that very moment, people dying... I'm very thankful that I was safe, and that I was not alone.
Every single person I've talked to, actually believed that this could be it, the end of the world, like an apocalypse or something. In Chile, we always expect an earthquake, it's coming, sooner or later. But we don't expect something THIS huge..
This reminds me that us, humans, are just guests in the Earth, and that natural forces can own and rape us so bad in any minute.
I sincerely hope every TL Chilean member is safe, as their close friends and family.
¡¡ FUERZA CHILE CTM !!
Nice read, was a similar experience for me... i was playing sc:bw in lan with my girlfriend's brother, he was send me like always a lurker rush into my door and i was with my bunker and turret getting hits, when my gf come to my door and said.. ¡the ground its movin!
I said to her: ¡cmon don panic its just and usual earthq... fuck!! run!! We go outside to my garden and the spectacle begun.. my swimmingpool start to shake and send water into air.. all the garden get wet, and the lights go off, many flashes start to appear in the outside corner of my house, the electric post start to bright with blue and white explosions, the car alarms, the house, all around us start to crumble.
We take our hand and the ground behind us start to move in all directions... we felt like the end of the world has started... 3 minutes of panic and dispair.
And at the end, we breath again, our dog was behind us trembling like us.
We slept outside, collect water, food and started to make phonecalls (the lines went out for many hours), and we turn on a radio (only way to get news)...
61 replicas has passed in less than 24 hours. But we are calm now.
ps: like i said in my first post, i ill happy to learn some better way to face a 2 hatch ling-lurker attack than a cataclysmic phenomena XD
ps2: Un abrazo para todos los chilenos de TL.net, que gusto saber que están bien.
kinda offtopic but last EQ here in so cal (a 3.3 or something) I was in the shower boning my gf, so fucking funny. Uncle bursts in 15 seconds after it happens and starts talking to us behind the curtain.
Someone asked why there were less deaths in Chile than in Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere - the structural integrity of the buildings was nonexistent and the infrastructure of the rescuers (police, etc) was extremely fragile. Chile is not in the same situation as Haiti and can thus deal with this in a much better way and save more lives.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.. power JUST came in, man it felt like being in a movie or something. I was working when that thing hit us, never ran so fast in my life.
it was scary, im lucky with only some flowers and decoration was broken after the earthquake and everything was fine.
apart from the tragedy in the south and old buildings in every city. something awesome you could see in the streets after the earthquake was the moon giving natural light over the city. it was actually a pretty nice visual. of course as the night advanced everything was getting darker while we were waiting for the replicas
On February 28 2010 10:13 choboPEon wrote: Not entirely sure if this has been answered but:
Someone asked why there were less deaths in Chile than in Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in the hemisphere - the structural integrity of the buildings was nonexistent and the infrastructure of the rescuers (police, etc) was extremely fragile. Chile is not in the same situation as Haiti and can thus deal with this in a much better way and save more lives.
exactly, when an earthquake hit, building are suposed to go with the earthquake movement so the base of the house/building doesnt break
That's pretty hardcore, good job to Chile for having such excellent infrastructure and engineers/architects/civil planners/etc. Lol at the surfers trying to ride that tsunami. GL to the places that are going to be hit by the tsunami. And props to TL Chileans who had to tough it out.
I hope Antarctica is prepared for their portion of the tsunami. o_O
Wow, i read some of your guys experience of the earthquake and man.. i'm just glad that nothing happened to any of you and how well you guys managed in the situation.. i Hope nothing like this will happen in your guys lifes again.
Wow, 8.8 magnitude earthquake in an urban area. This looks bad, hope they evacuated in time. Hoping damages are minimised. My heartfelt condolences to Chile.
On February 28 2010 10:22 MeriaDoKk wrote: HOLY FUCKING SHIT.. power JUST came in, man it felt like being in a movie or something. I was working when that thing hit us, never ran so fast in my life.
Where did you run? Just out of the building or what.
On February 28 2010 10:22 MeriaDoKk wrote: HOLY FUCKING SHIT.. power JUST came in, man it felt like being in a movie or something. I was working when that thing hit us, never ran so fast in my life.
Where did you run? Just out of the building or what.
I work in a storage building, so we are surrounded with boxes and pallets, something like this:
We were loading trucks with products when the earthquake started, everything started too fell apart so we had to run were the trucks were being loaded, also the building is pretty big so me and some co-workers had to run a good 150-200 meters to the exit, and then the lights went out, that's when I got scared because you can Imagine with shit falling around and running with the lights off... shit was NOT pretty, also there's like this really thin space between where the truck parks and the building, with the truck jumping up and down and moving like crazy and people behind and in front of you trying to pass trough that thin space.. not good.
On February 28 2010 12:07 ivirj wrote: 147 dead chileans for a 8.8 earthquake seems very cheese to me if you ask i really dont think thats a real number, good thing hawaii got away safe.
Hope all chileans are fine, they are very cool people.
It is expected to rise between 300 and 400 people.. It officialy increased to 214 after the last official count.
Don't forget Chile is a country prepared to this kind of events, not only by the building laws, but also because people know how to react to earthquakes and tsunamis.
Most of the buildings that collapsed were very old.
On February 28 2010 10:22 MeriaDoKk wrote: HOLY FUCKING SHIT.. power JUST came in, man it felt like being in a movie or something. I was working when that thing hit us, never ran so fast in my life.
Where did you run? Just out of the building or what.
I work in a storage building, so we are surrounded with boxes and pallets, something like this:
We were loading trucks with products when the earthquake started, everything started too fell apart so we had to run were the trucks were being loaded, also the building is pretty big so me and some co-workers had to run a good 150-200 meters to the exit, and then the lights went out, that's when I got scared because you can Imagine with shit falling around and running with the lights off... shit was NOT pretty, also there's like this really thin space between where the truck parks and the building, with the truck jumping up and down and moving like crazy and people behind and in front of you trying to pass trough that thin space.. not good.
On February 28 2010 10:22 MeriaDoKk wrote: HOLY FUCKING SHIT.. power JUST came in, man it felt like being in a movie or something. I was working when that thing hit us, never ran so fast in my life.
Where did you run? Just out of the building or what.
I work in a storage building, so we are surrounded with boxes and pallets, something like this:
We were loading trucks with products when the earthquake started, everything started too fell apart so we had to run were the trucks were being loaded, also the building is pretty big so me and some co-workers had to run a good 150-200 meters to the exit, and then the lights went out, that's when I got scared because you can Imagine with shit falling around and running with the lights off... shit was NOT pretty, also there's like this really thin space between where the truck parks and the building, with the truck jumping up and down and moving like crazy and people behind and in front of you trying to pass trough that thin space.. not good.
We went inside to get the guy that drives the forklift truck, almost everything went down, sugar, toilet paper, etc. Well the driver was lifting some pallets in the back of the building so he just sat there and just waited until it was over, the truck was under a pile of diapers (pallets full of them were just above him), but he was okay inside that truck.
Edit: And on Monday we have to fix that whole mess :[
one thing to note about the power of the earthquake that i saw on CNN, basically the earthquake covered a much larger area than the haiti one. That's why it got so much higher on the richter scale and not because the actualy shakes were more powerful! now i still don't know exactly how they relate to eachother in power though.
On February 28 2010 10:22 MeriaDoKk wrote: HOLY FUCKING SHIT.. power JUST came in, man it felt like being in a movie or something. I was working when that thing hit us, never ran so fast in my life.
Where did you run? Just out of the building or what.
I work in a storage building, so we are surrounded with boxes and pallets, something like this:
We were loading trucks with products when the earthquake started, everything started too fell apart so we had to run were the trucks were being loaded, also the building is pretty big so me and some co-workers had to run a good 150-200 meters to the exit, and then the lights went out, that's when I got scared because you can Imagine with shit falling around and running with the lights off... shit was NOT pretty, also there's like this really thin space between where the truck parks and the building, with the truck jumping up and down and moving like crazy and people behind and in front of you trying to pass trough that thin space.. not good.
On February 28 2010 12:07 ivirj wrote: 147 dead chileans for a 8.8 earthquake seems very cheese to me if you ask i really dont think thats a real number, good thing hawaii got away safe.
Hope all chileans are fine, they are very cool people.
Keep in mind that Chile is a seismically active area and is a much wealthier country then haiti. That is why the buildings held up better then the Haiti earthquake even though the earthquake was much larger.
We're still all worried about the players of our community who we haven't heard of... we hoping that pALLo, xANXO SAgem and some others are fine, they live in cities with heviest damages
On February 28 2010 12:07 ivirj wrote: 147 dead chileans for a 8.8 earthquake seems very cheese to me if you ask i really dont think thats a real number, good thing hawaii got away safe.
Hope all chileans are fine, they are very cool people.
Keep in mind that Chile is a seismically active area and is a much wealthier country then haiti. That is why the buildings held up better then the Haiti earthquake even though the earthquake was much larger.
Yep, our university courses for engineers take seismic protection really seriously- the only place in the world where you might find buildings built more resilient to quakes than in Chile is Japan, really. Concepcion city suffered serious damage, the rest of us are mostly fine.
Im fine and glad to be OK... but we have family next to the epicenter and we cant get in touch with them (uncles).
First time that I was really scaried.. I was here on TL watching some SC WL and then the earthquake started so I first wake up everyone here and told them to get under the door. It was fucking scary to see that the earth was moving like that, Concepcion and near cities got the worst part (Im freaking happy that my sister came earlier from her vacations, she was on Concepcion for vacation)
Not to downplay the significance of this quake and the ensuing tsunami but this basically screws Haiti over even more so. International attention will be focused on the other nations, most of which have infrastructures far more suited to dealing with these natural catastrophes, and Haiti will probably suffer in economic despair for a long long time to come. Poor Haiti
On March 01 2010 03:42 Xusneb wrote: Not to downplay the significance of this quake and the ensuing tsunami but this basically screws Haiti over even more so. International attention will be focused on the other nations, most of which have infrastructures far more suited to dealing with these natural catastrophes, and Haiti will probably suffer in economic despair for a long long time to come. Poor Haiti
On March 01 2010 03:42 Xusneb wrote: Not to downplay the significance of this quake and the ensuing tsunami but this basically screws Haiti over even more so. International attention will be focused on the other nations, most of which have infrastructures far more suited to dealing with these natural catastrophes, and Haiti will probably suffer in economic despair for a long long time to come. Poor Haiti
I disagree Chile was much more prepared for an Earthquake than Haiti, building codes, top notch search and rescue, emergency systems, etc.
a tidal wave it the coast like 2 hours later than the quake, taking at least 350 lifes in the town of Constitución. The other 350 are spread through the ffected region. This number is spected to be raised be a few hundreds. I think i will get to something like 1000. Even 1000 is incredibly low, so i am relatively glad.
I am worried to, because we cant get in touch with some people of the chilean comunity.
The people is starting to pillage some local retail stores, and almost every pision there is on a riot. The army is on te streets, so i think by tomorrow all would be nicer.
Anyway, i live in santiago, where a very strange and quiet sunday is going on, its like a very red day, with the commerce closed, and not so much people on the streets, but here is all very close to normal, but the light is on and off
On March 01 2010 03:42 Xusneb wrote: Not to downplay the significance of this quake and the ensuing tsunami but this basically screws Haiti over even more so. International attention will be focused on the other nations, most of which have infrastructures far more suited to dealing with these natural catastrophes, and Haiti will probably suffer in economic despair for a long long time to come. Poor Haiti
Darwinism of nations.
I wasn't aware that Darwin explained the extreme economic exploitation of third world countries by the corporations in the united states, and its effects.
On March 01 2010 03:35 _BlueSky_ wrote: im from chile now we have 708 deads =/
this is soo bad
just yesterday was only 100. damn that sucks.
This is how it worked in Haiti too. It started with "a few thousand are dead" and we end up with 200,000.
Sadly, i'd guess we aren't close to the overall total in Chile.
From Chilean news the president said it wouldent raise all that much becuse they have count the dead from meny affected regions but there is still the worst affected region/city provice Conception so it will probleby rise abit but It wont reach 10.000 lifes. Most houses dident fall apart so its no Haiti. Hopefully Chilen people can recover fast from damage done.
On March 01 2010 03:42 Xusneb wrote: Not to downplay the significance of this quake and the ensuing tsunami but this basically screws Haiti over even more so. International attention will be focused on the other nations, most of which have infrastructures far more suited to dealing with these natural catastrophes, and Haiti will probably suffer in economic despair for a long long time to come. Poor Haiti
Darwinism of nations.
I wasn't aware that Darwin explained the extreme economic exploitation of third world countries by the corporations in the united states, and its effects.
The details don't matter as long as the principle applies :p
On March 01 2010 07:13 PredY wrote: how does 8.8 "look" like?
Have you seen any images of Haiti after the earthquake? That was around 7.0 I think, 8.8 is about 70 or so times more powerful. But, the effects of earthquakes largely depend on the resistance of the infrastructure and of course the proximity to the epicentre of the quake. It seems like most of Chile was barely harmed at all (for a quake of that magnitude). So, if Haiti had been struck with an 8.8, I could imagine that it would have killed twice as many people. Every single building might have collapsed (there already were few buildings left standing). If the quake in Chile had been a 7.0 there might even have been as few as 0-10 casualties.
Of course all of these are rough estimations and I have no deep knowledge about that matter.
this sucks... some friends dont know anything about their families @ concepcion some guys that study in my unversity are from Talca, Talcahuano and concepcion... and we dont have any info about them , bcuz there is no phone lines , internet nor celphones working properly...
Have you seen any images of Haiti after the earthquake? That was around 7.0 I think, 8.8 is about 70 or so times more powerful. But, the effects of earthquakes largely depend on the resistance of the infrastructure and of course the proximity to the epicentre of the quake. It seems like most of Chile was barely harmed at all (for a quake of that magnitude). So, if Haiti had been struck with an 8.8, I could imagine that it would have killed twice as many people. Every single building might have collapsed (there already were few buildings left standing). If the quake in Chile had been a 7.0 there might even have been as few as 0-10 casualties.
Of course all of these are rough estimations and I have no deep knowledge about that matter.
actually in my city we had no problems in the most part we had a 7.0 earthquake here, but nothing happened , mostly because my city (valdivia) had in 1960 the most powerfull earthquake in history (9.5 richter) so every major building was made for this kind of eventuality
well...after getting tsunami warning at like 9am in the morning and all beaches off-limits...i gathered something went down somewhere and i only just found out wtf happened...
Survivors of Haiti's quake described abject panic – much of it well-founded as buildings imploded around them. Many Haitians grabbed cement pillars only to watch them crumble in their hands. Haitians were not schooled in how to react – by sheltering under tables and door frames, and away from glass windows.
Chileans, on the other hand, have homes and offices built to ride out quakes, their steel skeletons designed to sway with seismic waves rather than resist them.
"When you look at the architecture in Chile you see buildings that have damage, but not the complete pancaking that you've got in Haiti," said Cameron Sinclair, executive director of Architecture for Humanity, a 10-year-old nonprofit that has helped people in 36 countries rebuild after disasters.
Sinclair said he has architect colleagues in Chile who have built thousands of low-income housing structures to be earthquake resistant.
This is much worse than it was expected to be after the initial shock. Many towns suffered from a devastating tsunami. Survivors have nothing left, no roof, not water, food, clothes, electrical supply, communication.
This was known today because since the earthquake many towns couldn't communicate at all with the rest of the country.
The damage is severe. I'm really worried about what is happening here. I really hope we can make it through this catastrophe.
What Chileans have and always will have is optimism. This photo is a message of hope given by a man from pelluhue who lost everything. except his life, his pride, and his faith.
I sincerely hope we all chileans contribute one way or another to rebuild our country.
Every country with regular seismic activity is relatively well prepared for it but very few countries are used to Tsunamis and that was probably more devastating than the earthquake itself for chile
On March 01 2010 14:38 FragKrag wrote: Thank god Chile has the proper infrastructure. Really nice that low-income housing also has earthquake resistance. What an amazing place :o
Well if this thing had happened in the US there would be much much more casulties and property damage just becouse of mass population in small areas (big cities) and big-income housing (big ass skyscrapers etc.) so you do the math which is better in situation like this. :p
@topic: I feel sorry for everyone who lost somebody there and/or their homes. Hope they recover from this as soon as possible.
Wow, I remember hearing that after the Indonesian quake that caused the Tsunami that the Earth actually vibrated. But apparently the Earthquake in Chile may have titled the the axis of the Earth.
March 1 (Bloomberg) -- The earthquake that killed more than 700 people in Chile on Feb. 27 probably shifted the Earth’s axis and shortened the day, a National Aeronautics and Space Administration scientist said.
“The length of the day should have gotten shorter by 1.26 microseconds (millionths of a second),” Gross, said today in an e-mailed reply to questions. “The axis about which the Earth’s mass is balanced should have moved by 2.7 milliarcseconds (about 8 centimeters or 3 inches).”
Hello teamliquid, sorry about the bump. I live in concepcion where the 8.8 earthquake hit, there is panic in the street right now. Ill try to upload some pictures so you can see how everything is going but for simplicitys sake lets just say its a fucking zombie apocalypse.
Free Calls to Chile Updated: 3/2/2010 11:36:21 AM(ET) Please be advised of the following regarding free calls to Chile: In the aftermath of the 8.8 magnitude earthquake in Chile, Verizon Wireless has waived all calling fees for customers trying to reach loved ones in Chile.
o Retroactive to the time of the earthquake, customers with regular monthly bills can make calls to connect with family and friends in Chile at no cost when they¿re on our network in the U.S. o These calls will be free for at least one week. o Calls made while roaming are billed at normal rates.
Customers who want to text donations now can directly support Chile relief efforts by the following two groups. However, additional international relief organizations are expected to begin mobile giving campaigns soon.
o Text CHILE to 23583 to donate $10 to Habitat for Humanity o Text CHILE to 20222 to donate $10 to World Vision
Note: The $10 contributions will be added to customers' regular monthly Verizon Wireless bill.
Some pictures from today, im a volunteer (www.untechoparachile.cl) (a roof for chile) so i was managing (?) traffic and then rescuing food with the military.
Oh, btw i dont know if i said this before but i live in Concepcion. The most damaged city, altough some small cities near here dont exit anymore, they got flooded.
My best wishes go out to Chile, stay strong guys! This whole thing has been making people in my area a bit paranoid. I live in Portland, Oregon, and from what I hear, we are somewhat overdue for a big earthquake ourselves. And with all the recent happenings, its hard to not be scared
It was HUGE, I live on a 4th floor and the building shook like jelly. Apart from a lot of broken glass and stuff everyone I know is ok... the people that suffered the most were the ones from the south, closer to the epicenter.
the earthquake also put into discussion the quality standards of some buildings, which were literally destroyed after 1 min. They were no older than 5 years.
Today was a little more back to normality. Many volunteers can't go to the damaged zone because there is no security or provisions yet for them. Things will stabilize soon, sine the military forces has taken control over most part of the zone. I'm waiting for a call to go work as volunteer to rebuild damaged towns.
VAMOS CHILE!
ps: even if we're hurt by this catastrophe and we're very thankful for the international aid provided to Chile, if you make donations please don't forget about haiti and africa.
On March 03 2010 12:47 LeGo_MaN wrote: It was HUGE, I live on a 4th floor and the building shook like jelly. Apart from a lot of broken glass and stuff everyone I know is ok... the people that suffered the most were the ones from the south, closer to the epicenter.
the earthquake also put into discussion the quality standards of some buildings, which were literally destroyed after 1 min. They were no older than 5 years.
=O any thoughts'?
buildings companies just SUCK, they didn't respect the law. Many people from those companies should go to jail.
One of the bigger problems we had in the end was government incompetence when responding to the earthquake.
Remember the hurricane in New Orleans? G.W. Bush's government was incompetent in the government response then. Looting and killing ensued in the resulting chaos, iirc.
That should've served as a lesson, but our president didn't want to send in the army to establish a curfew and help distribute supplies. What did we get? Arson and looting in the resulting chaos. Only after a day of those activities did the president agree to send in the army- which established a curfew, restored order and helped distribute supplies.
Furthermore, we have a government body called Onemi (Oficina Nacional de Emergencia) whose job it is to deal with natural disasters. Our navy corps told Onemi soon after the quake that there would be a Tsunami. The US Naval Oceanographic Office, pretty much the biggest authority on this in the world, predicted tsunamis after the quake. Onemi did nothing. In fact, people in some places were told there would NOT be a tsunami. This made the tsunami a lot worse than it had to be.
Furthermore, our ambassador to the UN claimed after the quake that Chile didn't need any disaster relief help. Only 72 hours after the quake did the authorities finally ask for help, which we really could use in the most affected places.
Sure, hindsight is 20/20. You can hardly expect the government to get everything right. But ours was closer to getting everything wrong in their initial reaction, which is hopelessly incompetent at best.
was horrible to be here, i was very close from the epicenter i lost my best friend and many others i hope we can recibe help from the countrys that were not damaged by the earthquake
On March 05 2010 03:18 AnyOne wrote: was horrible to be here, i was very close from the epicenter i lost my best friend and many others i hope we can recibe help from the countrys that were not damaged by the earthquake
I was so scared that day. I went to Santiago to a track sub-23 tournament in manquehue. I stayed that night at a friend apartment in the municipality of Ñuñoa. Ironically i played with my friend doing with card pyramids that night before going to bed. o_o
At 3:34 of the morning i woke up. The room was shaking slightly... I thought 'oh it's just a little temblor' then it shocked stronger... 'hmm this is a strong one' I was already used to feel this kind of stuff at night until it got really STRONG. 'oh shit, i gotta get out of here ASAP' We ran across the apartment to the exit. Fortunately, we were on a first floor. When we got out, a window next to us fell from the 5th floor. The earth was moving like crazy for 2 minutes. When I stopped, we hugged each other and stayed the rest of the night outside.
It wasn't until 8 o'clock when the lights went on again. Up to there, we only thought it was a strong tremor. It wasn't like that. It was an earthquake of 8.8. Of course, our card pyramid collapsed. At least the apartment and my house in Valdivia (yes, Valdivia) didn't went down. All my family is ok. We used the cards again to check the aftershocks the following days.
A tsunami triggered by an earthquake in Chile has swept ashore in Hawaii. The extent of the damage was not immediately clear. But the initial waves did not appear to be serious. (Feb.27)
On March 05 2010 21:07 trackd00r wrote: A strong aftershock just happened. It was 6.8 ritcher scale according to the news. The epicenter was near concepcion.
More than 200 aftershock events right now, one of the most powerful was tonight, 6.6 richter scale confirmed.
A large aftershock has rocked Chile just moments before the inauguration of the country's new president. The 7.2-magnitude tremour was stronger than the quake that destroyed the Haitian capital in January. Scientists have warned that more aftershocks are likely to happen.
Yeah this was a strong one, the epicenter it's closer to santiago... a lot of panic and everyone is going home earlier from work.
Free day for me no work and I think that everyone is safe here on santiago, but I have family next to the epicenter (they said that it was on close to a lake called rapel)
he's saying "This thing happens only one time in life, and I'm not going to miss it" and at the end he says "Ladies, don't let your kids do this things!"
I apologise if I sound like a dushe, but I'm impressed by Chile. An 8.8 and there are less than a 1000 dead and that's without mentoning the serious aftershocks. If this kind of thing happens over here not only is it going to level everything, but the dead would be a million at least.
A large aftershock has rocked Chile just moments before the inauguration of the country's new president. The 7.2-magnitude tremour was stronger than the quake that destroyed the Haitian capital in January. Scientists have warned that more aftershocks are likely to happen.
The earth is clearly not happy with chilean politics right now.
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