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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
February 13 2010 10:59 GMT
#101
I dont see how this was never forseen? shit looks way to dangerous.
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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
February 13 2010 11:16 GMT
#102
On February 13 2010 18:20 Eskii wrote:
Here is the thing, it was completely foreseeable... I don't know why people are shocked when athletes who perform in high risk sports die in accidents.


They don't die everyday or on every olympic games or bobsleigh championship do they?

It was because of the poor design of the track.

I don't know if padding would've helped. But if padding would have gave at least 1% chances of staying alive, it should be taken.

But as i mentioned earlier, the problem is they didn't lift the track in the curve or tunnel it. It's only in curves that he can get out of the track like that.
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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 16:08:49
February 13 2010 16:07 GMT
#103
Ok, their investigation is over. As always it's the dead mans fault.


Joint VANOC - FIL Statement on Men’s Luge Competition

Feb 12, 2010

The International Luge Federation is deeply saddened by the death of the Georgian athlete, Nodar Kumaritashvili, member of our Luge Family, who was fatally injured during the final training session in the last corner of the track at the Whistler Sliding Centre on Friday morning.

The Coroners Service of British Columbia, responsible for the investigation of all sudden deaths, together with the RCMP, concluded their on-scene investigations on the track and transferred the decision to FIL when the track can be re-opened. The FIL, through its technical officials, further investigated into the cause of this tragic incident. Based on a physical inspection of the track and a thorough review of the tapes they have concluded the following:

It appears after a routine run, the athlete came late out of curve 15 and did not compensate properly to make correct entrance into curve 16. This resulted in a late entrance into curve 16 and although the athlete worked to correct the problem he eventually lost control of the sled resulting in the tragic accident. The technical officials of the FIL were able to retrace the path of the athlete and concluded there was no indication that the accident was caused by deficiencies in the track.

Based on these findings the race director, in consultation with the FIL, made the decision to reopen the track following a raising of the walls at the exit of curve 16 and a change in the ice profile. This was done as a preventative measure, in order to avoid that such an extremely exceptional accident could occur again.

The FIL will resume men´s training Saturday morning with two full training runs prior to the competition taking place as scheduled at 17h00.



FIL and VANOC will conduct a joint press conference on Saturday, 13 February, at 8h30am at the Whistler Media Center with Josef Fendt, FIL President, Svein Romstad, FIL Secretary General and Tim Gayda, VANOC Vice-President, Sport. Media in Vancouver will be able to follow the press conference and post questions at the Main Press Center (MPC).



Armin Zoeggeler (Italy) the champion of the last two editions has also been hurt on the training as well as the romanian Violeta Stramaturaru.

Armin Zoeggeler declared that he is concerned that because the track was closed and the competition start will not be delayed that reduces training time on the track and therefore improves chance for accidents.

That's also dumb... so they closed the track i see for investigation... good. But they aren't going to delay the competition to give them time to train properly on the track?

I'm not going to be surprised if we're gonna see even more injuries here.
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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
February 13 2010 16:26 GMT
#104
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 13 2010 16:34 GMT
#105
If it was just this guy that had a problem with it then I would understand. But there were other people aside from him that were injured on the same course. These guys aren't just scrubs that have no idea what they're doing either. They are the top competitors at this, and if multiple people from the cream of the crop are getting hurt and killed, then there must be some fault to the design of the track.
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
February 13 2010 17:05 GMT
#106
It's very horrible. I'm sad for him and i keep him in my mind. Go Gorgia Go win a gold medal for him
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Wire
Profile Joined July 2009
United States494 Posts
February 13 2010 17:07 GMT
#107
giant pad on a steel rod.

how much could that possibly cost?
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Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
February 13 2010 17:17 GMT
#108
The risk is part of the excitement. I'm sure they know that the slightest mistake could mean life or death at that speed - same thing for down hill sky. It's part of the glory. I salute his devotion to his sport; it can be said that he lived his dream to the end.
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SultanVinegar
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States372 Posts
February 13 2010 17:39 GMT
#109
"Officials have modified the last turn where he crashed, erecting a 12-foot-high wooden wall to cover the exposed steel beams. In the last hour before practice was set to resume, workers scraped and shaped ice from the edges in the last turn. Officials said they have modified the exit in the curve."

from espn
http://sports.espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2010/luge/news/story?id=4911258
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
February 13 2010 17:48 GMT
#110
Atleast it was short.

R.I.P
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MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
February 13 2010 18:22 GMT
#111
On February 14 2010 02:39 SultanVinegar wrote:
"Officials have modified the last turn where he crashed, erecting a 12-foot-high wooden wall to cover the exposed steel beams. In the last hour before practice was set to resume, workers scraped and shaped ice from the edges in the last turn. Officials said they have modified the exit in the curve."

from espn
http://sports.espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2010/luge/news/story?id=4911258


It always happens *after* the accident..

I mean, there were freaking metal poles in the track, no one even considered that someone might slide out of the track and fall on them?..

Sad things
Vedic
Profile Joined March 2008
United States582 Posts
February 13 2010 22:51 GMT
#112
On February 13 2010 15:06 Sadistx wrote:
Was his sled made by Toyota?


Funny you should ask:

http://i.imgur.com/o3n6i.jpg
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 13 2010 23:03 GMT
#113
What would a pad do anyways? I doubt he would have lived even if there was a pad.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 23:11:57
February 13 2010 23:09 GMT
#114
A pad wouldn't do anything other then shut up the hundreds of thousands of people that think a steel pad would have helped. Also, I definitely expect to see more injuries this year. I surely hope not. Not only does it suck when people die in the Olympics, it probably would look bad for Canada.
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
February 13 2010 23:11 GMT
#115
On February 14 2010 08:09 Bosu wrote:
A pad wouldn't do anything other then shut up the hundreds of thousands of people that think a steel pad would have helped.



Well of course padding steel with steel wouldn't help.
bongjwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States199 Posts
February 13 2010 23:21 GMT
#116
i feel bad for him and his family and all, but obviously that sport has giant risks attached
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Xife
Profile Joined September 2009
224 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 23:28:38
February 13 2010 23:26 GMT
#117
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/luge/news?slug=reu-lugestart&prov=reuters&type=lgns

WHISTLER, Feb 13 (Reuters) - The Olympic men’s luge competition will run from the lower women’s start as an extra precaution after the death of a Georgian slider in training, organisers said on Saturday.


Way to ruin the event... I wonder if they move the Women's start, perhaps just above the very last turn.
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 03:45:39
February 14 2010 00:11 GMT
#118
i feel fucking sick after seeing that picture of the luger covered in blood with his lifeless eyes staring lifelessly into the sky. I keep seeing my own face instead of his.

i just got into a snowboarding accident on tuesday and i feel like i just cheated death. i was following a friend down a trail that I wasn't very familiar with nor am I as good of a snowboarder as my friend and I didn't see this ski lift pole with a giant concrete block on the bottom of it until it was too late and I hit it head on.

i broke every bone on the right side of my face including the frontal bone in my forehead which is supposed to take 200Gs of acceleration to break. the orbital bone that holds my eye was completely shattered and they had to cut the top of my scalp from ear to ear and literally peel my face back in order to insert 10 titanium plates in order to piece my face back together.

If I would've hit the block two inches higher, I would've been blind. If I would've hit the concrete block two inches lower, I would've been paralyzed. If the back of my head would've hit the concrete block, I would've have been brain dead. If my I hit two inches upper-right in my temple, I would've died on impact. The sheer fact that I had my sinuses to act as a buffer is the sole reason I am not worse off than I am now. I'm going to be most likely partially blind in my right eye and my face slightly misshapen, but nothing even close to what could have happened.

I'm fucking shook up and sick to my stomach after seeing this. I've never been this close to an encounter with death and I can't believe that I escaped death within inches of my life. It's fucking sickening to think that my life could have ended on tuesday. Never knew how much I took it for granted until I almost lost it.

Rest in Peace, Nodar Kumaritashvili.
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BlackMesa
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Kenya338 Posts
February 14 2010 03:27 GMT
#119
On February 14 2010 09:11 AtlaS wrote:
i feel fucking sick after seeing that picture of the luger covered in blood with his lifeless eyes staring lifelessly into the sky. I keep seeing my own face instead of his.

i just got into a snowboarding accident on tuesday and i feel like i just cheated death. i was following a friend down a trail that I wasn't very familiar with nor am I as good of a snowboarder as my friend and I didn't see this ski lift pole with a giant concrete block on the bottom of it until it was too late and I hit it head on.

i broke every bone on the right side of my face including the frontal bone in my forehead that is supposed to take 200Gs of acceleration to break. the orbital bone that holds my eye was completely shattered and they had to cut the top of my scalp from ear to ear and literally peel my face back in order to insert 10 titanium plates in order to piece my face back together.

If I would've hit the block two inches higher, I would've been blind. If I would've hit the concrete block two inches lower, I would've been paralyzed. If the back of my head would've hit the concrete block, I would've have been brain dead. If my I hit two inches upper-right in my temple, I would've died on impact. The sheer fact that I had my sinuses to act as a buffer is the sole reason I am not worse off than I am now. I'm going to be most likely partially blind in my right eye and my face slightly misshapen, but nothing even close to what could have happened.

I'm fucking shook up and sick to my stomach after seeing this. I've never been this close to an encounter with death and I can't believe that I escaped death within inches of my life. It's fucking sickening to think that my life could have ended on tuesday. Never knew how much I took it for granted until I almost lost it.


Rest in Peace, Nodar Kumaritashvili.


Wow, that sound terrible, just reading your description was enough to make me cringe. Get well soon mate.
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Zack1900
Profile Joined January 2010
United States211 Posts
February 15 2010 20:53 GMT
#120
My question is why were there thick poles there in the first place? They could have made it much safer with something like chain-link fence poles that would have bent over when hit instead of doing serious damage, or put the poles on the inside of the turn only. I blame the person that thought heavy steel poles on the "outside" at the end of a turn was a good idea. Athletes make mistakes and the venue shouldn't punish them like that.
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