EPTOn November 26 2009 19:15 RaptorX wrote:I am not a conspiracy theorist but YOU MUST MAKE QUESTIONS.
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WikiLeaks releases 911 text messages - Page 5
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Hungary3932 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
IMO saying that people should be punished for not believing the official stories is kinda lame. It´s always easier thinking: "this is the truth, we are the good guys, there just happens to be shitload of people hating us for a reason no one really knows.." All I´m saying people should stop thinking they know the truth about anything, there is no such thing. People are quite complicated beings and thinking they are always compeletely honest to you is naive. Ask:" I was in charge the world would be a much better place for anyone, so why is it like this now?" I admit I don´t know shit; about 9/11, about anything. PS. don´t think these messages will prove anything, if it was an inside job they would´ve already covered this "lead" too. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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pyrogenetix
China5094 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
Some of y'all should definately read up on the history of your own country and how the government, CIA and FBI have handled different matters. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
On November 26 2009 15:25 Not_Computer wrote: wow, over one million text messages for that day? i bet you could find a lot of things in that. race to find cybersex via text? 2001-09-11 06:31:26 Metrocall [1162127] D ALPHA From: 4044766632@airmessage.net Subj: Message from a two-way device Good morning sexy man!! Got my zebra thongs on!!! Feeling a little animalistic!!! omg! we're getting close. | ||
vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
good job being open minded | ||
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404.Delirium
United States1190 Posts
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Dr.Lettuce
United Kingdom663 Posts
On November 26 2009 21:41 vGl-CoW wrote: it's pretty hilarious how most conspiracy believers in this thread use the fact that "at least they're asking questions" to defend their beliefs, but prefer to stay blind to the completely plausible non-conspiracy answers they could find all over the internet if they just bothered to read any sources that weren't on fucking conspiracy websites good job being open minded Selective reading is the key to any conspiracy theory. It wouldn't surprise me if some people in the bush administration were aware something may have been going on. But I really don't think for one minute that the entire thing was a finely orchestrated plan. I just don't understand how some people are completely willing to lap up the ideas of one thought process, and ignore or downright refuse to believe another for no real reason, other than the fact they've already made up their minds. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On November 26 2009 21:41 vGl-CoW wrote: it's pretty hilarious how most conspiracy believers in this thread use the fact that "at least they're asking questions" to defend their beliefs, but prefer to stay blind to the completely plausible non-conspiracy answers they could find all over the internet if they just bothered to read any sources that weren't on fucking conspiracy websites good job being open minded Even more hilarious is that if you have read those plausible sources and if you think for 2 seconds, they are plausible just as the fucking conspiracy websites. | ||
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AdunToridas
Germany380 Posts
Did you notice that these two names differ in just one letter? Think about that... | ||
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ktp
United States797 Posts
On November 26 2009 21:41 vGl-CoW wrote: it's pretty hilarious how most conspiracy believers in this thread use the fact that "at least they're asking questions" to defend their beliefs, but prefer to stay blind to the completely plausible non-conspiracy answers they could find all over the internet if they just bothered to read any sources that weren't on fucking conspiracy websites good job being open minded I think this is true on both sides, people are going to read what they want to hear anyway. I use to be believe in the official story, but then I read a lot of conspiracy websites and it changed my perspective on things. I don't think anyone can deny that governments in the past have exploited tragedy for their personal gains. It's been documented but never really talked about. Thats the thing that really struck out at me. I've always trusted my intuition, and when I put the pieces together, I always get the feeling that something doesn't make sense. I completely understand why people would laugh at the idea that there would bombs in the buildings, it does sound a little ridiculous and over the top. But I don't think those details are important in a debate like this. I think what is more important is the fact that our government exploited a tragic event in order to go to war. This is what disturbs me the most. | ||
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FusionCutter
Canada974 Posts
On November 26 2009 21:41 vGl-CoW wrote: it's pretty hilarious how most conspiracy believers in this thread use the fact that "at least they're asking questions" to defend their beliefs, but prefer to stay blind to the completely plausible non-conspiracy answers they could find all over the internet if they just bothered to read any sources that weren't on fucking conspiracy websites good job being open minded Perhaps I've been reading the wrong stuff. Tell me how Building 7 fell down the way it did? Trying to be open minded here. | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
The most likely scenario is incompetency. I expect far more incompetency was involved than that is laid out in the 9/11 commissions report. Most of the government cover up would be protect the political careers of anyone involved by hiding their disastrous failures leading up to the tragedy. The next likeliest scenario is another kind of incompetency and pseudo-conspiracy, the case where 9/11 was the result of an intelligence operation go awry. Consider the situation where the CIA was trying to apprehend Osama bin Laden in the act of terrorism, baited him into organizing the operation, even gave him the funds to do it, but then messed up the opportunity to capture him or stop the act of terrorism. Now in this case, the intelligence agency at fault would have better reason to close ranks to cover up the mess up for mutual benefit. There would still be a lot of eyes and ears though. Less likely is that all went as the official story stated, and even more unlikely is that 9/11 was a pure false flag operation. | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On November 26 2009 20:40 igotmyown wrote: Bush was elected while campaigning on a let's stop playing the world police officer platform and didn't wasn't interested in global affairs until after the WTC attacks. Then afterwards a high death toll attack on important american institutions, terrorists or some sinister hidden conspiracy? What makes sense? Muslim CIA agents posing as terrorists, okayed by multiple levels up to the president, and not one person who hears about it has second thoughts and leaks it, including the agents who are required to 1) kill themselves 2) kill lots of americans and 3) start a global war and risk enormous anti-arab sentiment to their own race? Makes a ton of sense to me. Yep, that's the point, it just doesn't make sense at all that such a huge conspiracy could be done without leaks, plus what the Bush administration would risk by doing that would be just too big... Imagine if the public found out, at the very list he would be pushed out of office if not prosecuted and maybe even executed if found guilty. I don't believe any political agenda would justify that in the eyes of self serving politicians. On the other hand, i do believe is posible that some people inside the U.S. goverment might have known or suspected about the attacks, but decided to look the other way (something similar to what might have happened in Pearl Harbor), but i just can't imagine the U.S. goverment being directly involved, there are just too many flaws in the logic of such event. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
If you think you know what happened there you're an idiot. Or holding facts. | ||
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
On November 26 2009 22:17 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Perhaps I've been reading the wrong stuff. Tell me how Building 7 fell down the way it did? Trying to be open minded here. http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm Now with science! And graphs! And youtube links and shit. 10 sec google job, but I browsed through it and it looks pretty legit. UNLESS, it's really just another government site designed to throw us off the.... + Show Spoiler + Oh shit, men in black suits at my door. Gotta split. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On November 26 2009 18:49 Badjas wrote: Oh I get it! And now people who say that evidence got destroyed are anti-patriotic... (It's still a cool idea separate from that issue.) The page says 7.5 tons of steel from the WTC were used in building that ship, which is only a fraction of the steel used in building the WTC. | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On November 26 2009 23:20 Carnac wrote: The page says 7.5 tons of steel from the WTC were used in building that ship, which is only a fraction of the steel used in building the WTC. I guess it invalidates BuGzlToOnl's answer then hmm.. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On November 26 2009 22:31 CrimsonLotus wrote: Yep, that's the point, it just doesn't make sense at all that such a huge conspiracy could be done without leaks, plus what the Bush administration would risk by doing that would be just too big... Imagine if the public found out, at the very list he would be pushed out of office if not prosecuted and maybe even executed if found guilty. I don't believe any political agenda would justify that in the eyes of self serving politicians. On the other hand, i do believe is posible that some people inside the U.S. goverment might have known or suspected about the attacks, but decided to look the other way (something similar to what might have happened in Pearl Harbor), but i just can't imagine the U.S. goverment being directly involved, there are just too many flaws in the logic of such event. Wasn´t Obamas campaign anti-war? Suddenly we have bank crisis and now Obama sending more troops overseas... Almost like there is someone else pulling the strings...  It all goes damn well to someone again and again, you see if you dig into the backgrounds of pretty much all other wars 1900 onwards. Trick people into war / your side... It´s not always as apparent or as easily revealed as Shelling of Mainila PS. There are some people acting like cosmic shmucks here, remember: your "truth" is still only a relative truth. | ||
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