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The thing is that history repeats itself... deception, killing, overusing the power... why do you think it would stop now?
those posts below show evidence that the USA government had at least tried with the idea of blaming another country about a terrorist attack for going and invading that country... isnt that EXACTLY what just happened? for me it is just too similar, and then you look at the bull shit information given by the government expecting you to believe every single word when all the evidence points to another direction...
I got the first suspicions with this:
- The fuel of the plane managed to burn the STEEL of the buildings in less than 10 minutes which caused an almost free fall of the buildings... yet they found the passports of the terrorists UNTOUCHED... they could even read the names and have the pictures... yeah right....
- The WTC 7 fell because of the impact... but what about all the other buildings that were closer to the WTC... why those didnt fell?
I am not a conspiracy theorist but YOU MUST MAKE QUESTIONS.
On November 26 2009 19:03 Liquid_Turbo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 15:35 Choros wrote:On November 26 2009 15:00 lokiM wrote:On November 26 2009 14:28 A3iL3r0n wrote:
I hope something is found.
9/11 obviously has some degree of government involvement and cover-up. you and other conspiracy theorists make me want to throw up sometimes People like you are sickening. The notion that we should completely ignore all evidence because 'no conspiracy theory has ever or will ever be true' is utterly absurd. History is riddled with conspiracies from start to finish at the very least their arguments are historically fallacious, conspiracy denies urgently need to grow up. Are you not aware of the declassified operation Northwoods http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods the plan to fly planes into buildings in Florida, blame it on Cuba and then invade? Apparently they thought this plan was good enough to hold onto. Are you not aware of the Nazi coup attempt in the United States in 1933. The attempt to overthrow the Government of Franklin Roosevelt that only failed because marine corps Major General Smedley Butler the man chosen to lead the coup blew the whistle at the last minute. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_PlotPrescott Bush the grand daddy of the recent president Bush was involved in this plot. Prescott was a convicted Nazi prosecuted under trading with the enemy act. The Bush family fortune was built by profiteering from concentration camps. George Herbert Walker Bush joined the CIA and was deeply involved in the vicious terrorist campaigns waged against central American nations especially Cuba. Bush senior was a cold blooded terrorist as is described in a couple of very good unauthorised biographies of the man including 'Bush the unauthorized biography' (available to read for free online at www.tarpley.net and 'family of secrets' http://www.familyofsecrets.com/buy-now/) During the 1980's a secret Government was uncovered within the United States in the Iran-Contra debacle, first it was uncovered that the United States and Israel were smuggling arms to Iran against their own arms embargo. Later during investigation it was discovered that the Reagan Administration (with Bush sr as vice president) were sending planes with guns to the Terrorist Contras in Nicaragua and the planes would fly back with drugs. The Government was caught out running drugs for guns trades with Terrorists at the same time as predending to wage a 'war against drugs'. The organisation that was uncovered during this scandal had their own private army, navy, air force and intelligence assets that were being deployed for ends that are criminal to say the least. Both these scandals the Nazi coup of 1933, and the Iran-Contra scandal revealed the dark underbelly of the American power structure but no body was charged with treason, nobody was brought to justice and it is this same group of diabolical villains who were behind the 9/11 attacks amongst other events I have not discussed. The criticism that 'anyone who believes 9/11 was a conspiracy believes the moon landing is fake' is a nothing argument that only discredits the morons who make this claim as these two conspiracy theories have NOTHING to do with one another. I suppose next you will be telling me that Julius Caesar was not killed in a conspiracy but fell over backwards on a dozen knives? For god sake know your history, if you know the history of the events I have described here you will find that the 9/11 plot is just the latest chapter of an evolving story, the saga of the 'fall of the republic'. Don't bother to blame the conspirators blame the conspiracy deniers because it is only through the efforts of these small minded loud mouthed buffoons who refuse to look at any evidence and reject even the possibility that the rich and powerful might not have our best interests at heart that allow these travesties to take place. Only after the conspiracy deniers wake up may this world finally enjoy peace. Post of the thread. I'll add my own contribution. Gulf of Tonkin Incident anyone?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_IncidentThis damned lie started the Vietnam War.
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Poll: 9/11???
(Vote): Was a 100% inside job.
(Vote): May have had ties to the US.
(Vote): I don't know but it's interesting.
(Vote): Was not an inside job.
(Vote): LOL conspiracy theorists r dumb
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people who believe in all this, reading this crap, listening to pseudo sciencists on YT and spreading this whole BS arround deserve to have net cut off
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On November 26 2009 14:27 Bosu wrote:
Nothing will be found.
9/11 conspiracy nuts are more crazy then people who think we never landed on the moon.
meh , the collapse of tower 7 was never explained well if you ask me
the fire chief said on video it was pulled , they must have been pretty quick putting the explosives up if that is the case...
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I don't understand why people are so skeptical of these conspiracy theories, to the point of almost automatically denying them. Not just about 911, but in general.
Just looking at history shows precedents of all kinds of unimaginable things. There have been false-flag terrorist attacks, world wars, genocide, institutions such as slavery, empires which have risen and fallen. No country has had the same government indefinitely, and no currency has lasted indefinitely. Just because people haven't experienced it, doesn't mean it won't happen.
Is it really so difficult to believe that the government would fly a couple planes into buildings? I mean it sure has worked out for them pretty nicely. Keeping people in a constant state of fear is very profitable and also very empowering for the government.
I mean two planes took out 3 major buildings? Seriously? Someone flew an impossible course to hit the pentagon, which just happened to be the part the were renovating. They also immediately start flashing images of the terrorists just after it happened (thats important...need to flash those images while the public is still in shock) because they found a piece of the passport in the wreckage...hahahaha.
And then theres building 7...wasn't hit by anything, it just fell down. + Show Spoiler +
And there just happened to be a military training exercise going on at the same time. Hm, what are the odds of that.
And the building owner took out massive terrorist insurance a few months before hit happened or something. Geez, I guess they knew people would believe anything.
Guys, I'm not even a big 911 researcher, there are many other things which I just haven't spent time reading, these are just obvious things.
It got us into Afghanistan, but we wanted to go into Iraq....Weapons of Mass Destruction! Those terrorists have nuclear weapons and biochemical labs. No. That was a lie. And we are still in Iraq, can't pull out now... But forget about that. Iran, which hasn't invaded another country in like 400 years or something, is making nukes. They will have them in 6 months. (they've been saying that for a few years now?)
The truth is that these Muslim countries don't conform to our imperial money system. Saddam was dumping our dollars for euros when we invaded. Iran has done the same thing. Those Muslim countries don't have NWO central banks either that are tightly integrated to the IMF and others. In fact Muslim law prohibits the charging of interest, because it is known as usury. Over there, banks charge fees instead of interest, unlike any other place in the world. Edit: I'll leave it to the reader to extrapolate a better understanding of the Jewish/Muslim conflict from what I've written. However, make no mistake, the money system is what is corrupt, it doesn't matter who controls it, in fact no one can control it. It is an unstoppable machine.
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^ Good post.
On November 26 2009 19:37 Itachii wrote:
people who believe in all this, reading this crap, listening to pseudo sciencists on YT and spreading this whole BS arround deserve to have net cut off
Read the fucking thread please.
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Zurich15359 Posts
On November 26 2009 19:37 Itachii wrote:
people who believe in all this, reading this crap, listening to pseudo sciencists on YT and spreading this whole BS arround deserve to have net cut off
True, they are just as stupid as the people who believe in the official version.
As long as there is no conclusive evidence for either everyone should be skeptic towards all conspiracy theories, be they spread by Youtube scientiest or by government officials.
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On November 26 2009 19:50 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 19:37 Itachii wrote:
people who believe in all this, reading this crap, listening to pseudo sciencists on YT and spreading this whole BS arround deserve to have net cut off True, they are just as stupid as the people who believe in the official version. As long as there is no conclusive evidence for either everyone should be skeptic towards all conspiracy theories, be they spread by Youtube scientiest or by government officials.
false equivalency argument
there's plenty of conclusive evidence for what happened, there's no evidence at all for any conspiracy, just a bunch of dumbasses on the net "asking questions"
when the conspiracy theorists have answers and not questions then i'll listen
http://www.911myths.com/
bonus pic:
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On November 26 2009 19:15 RaptorX wrote:
- The fuel of the plane managed to burn the STEEL of the buildings in less than 10 minutes which caused an almost free fall of the buildings... yet they found the passports of the terrorists UNTOUCHED... they could even read the names and have the pictures... yeah right....
http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html
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I would be more surprised if there was something to point that 9/11 wasn´t an inside job. I mean buildings collapsing on their own just like demolished buildings isn´t exactly "terroristlike", especially buildings build to withstand numerous terrorist attacks. Also the odds for all those things happening at once is just too much, I mean some of the planejackers on the official list ARE STILL ALIVE today.
I understand some people are compeletely brainwashed by patriotism so that they can´t demand any kinds of proof from their goverment, but history shows that those in charge have always had their way with people. It´s like religion: my God is neat because you can´t prove otherwise -_-
But w/e, a lot of those conspiracy "proofs" are still pure idiotism.
On November 26 2009 19:37 Itachii wrote:
people who believe in all this, reading this crap, listening to pseudo sciencists on YT and spreading this whole BS arround deserve to have net cut off
I expect you show some proof why that stuff is BS ?
I mean how do you explain those buildings coming down with your "non-pseudo" science? There just happened to be a shitload of thermite?
And cmon a crashing plane does not " disappear" compeletely when hitting the earth just compare the pictures from real plane crashes and that which hit pennsylvania or w/e.
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Jalstar has this shit under control. Also Lol at people like THEY FLEW AN IMPOSSIBLE COURSE, do you think they got fucking scud missiles ready to shoot down wayward airplanes? Fuck no. That's because you can't usually take into account SUICIDAL pilots/people in charge.
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On November 26 2009 20:15 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
And cmon a crashing plane does not " disappear" compeletely when hitting the earth just compare the pictures from real plane crashes and that which hit pennsylvania or w/e.
Just stop now.
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Zurich15359 Posts
On November 26 2009 19:57 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 19:50 zatic wrote:On November 26 2009 19:37 Itachii wrote:
people who believe in all this, reading this crap, listening to pseudo sciencists on YT and spreading this whole BS arround deserve to have net cut off True, they are just as stupid as the people who believe in the official version. As long as there is no conclusive evidence for either everyone should be skeptic towards all conspiracy theories, be they spread by Youtube scientiest or by government officials. there's plenty of conclusive evidence for what happened, there's no evidence at all for any conspiracy, just a bunch of dumbasses on the net "asking questions"
Then please, provide me with some of the plenty of conclusive evidence that supports the official conspiracy theory.
EDIT: Actually I don't even want to troll you into posting more links. Just don't be a jackass on these forums and call people who asks questions "dumbasses". Dumb is who just believes what he is being told without asking questions.
I am looking forward to the NYC trials, maybe after 10 years there will be the first sentencing regarding 9/11.
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On November 26 2009 20:26 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 20:15 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
And cmon a crashing plane does not " disappear" compeletely when hitting the earth just compare the pictures from real plane crashes and that which hit pennsylvania or w/e.
Just stop now.
Just a question, do you know how big an airline jet is?
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On November 26 2009 14:27 Bosu wrote:
Nothing will be found.
9/11 conspiracy nuts are more crazy then people who think we never landed on the moon.
This.
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On November 26 2009 15:19 Sigh wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2009 15:10 D10 wrote:On November 26 2009 15:00 lokiM wrote:On November 26 2009 14:28 A3iL3r0n wrote:
I hope something is found.
9/11 obviously has some degree of government involvement and cover-up. you and other conspiracy theorists make me want to throw up sometimes You might not like it but bush stole the election because hes an illuminati AND the antichrist. Osama is his buddy and they probably plotted it toghether. And Obama is actually Osama.
hahahaha that made me rofl
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"The archive is a completely objective record of the defining moment of our time. We hope that its revelation will lead to a more nuanced understanding of the event and its tragic consequences"
I love this description of the event. It sells its importance but weighs in politically proper. I dig.
I'm checking out the real content that the thread provides. I was just so impressed by the way that this was put that I had to mention.
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When someone quoted the northwood wiki article, they left out a very important point:
President Kennedy personally rejected it.
Ok, I can see the CIA or possibly the defense department trying to plan it as semi-plausible. I can see Cheney finding it interesting and pushing it forward. But I don't believe it because any non-Nixonian politician would reject it in a heartbeat. Random terrorism acts, plausible. Targeting the pentagon, world trade center, and the white house, right, why when any reasonably tall building would look good enough on the news? President Bush could also have killed himself with a bomb and faked an assassination, and boy that would have made the US go to war as well, but he wouldn't want to do that.
Bush was elected while campaigning on a let's stop playing the world police officer platform and didn't wasn't interested in global affairs until after the WTC attacks. Then afterwards a high death toll attack on important american institutions, terrorists or some sinister hidden conspiracy? What makes sense?
Muslim CIA agents posing as terrorists, okayed by multiple levels up to the president, and not one person who hears about it has second thoughts and leaks it, including the agents who are required to 1) kill themselves 2) kill lots of americans and 3) start a global war and risk enormous anti-arab sentiment to their own race? Makes a ton of sense to me.
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