On November 12 2009 15:34 Fixed wrote: Yes his posts on page 2 of this thread are so helpful -____-
Yea, since, you know, I was never on the receiving end of that and I didn't just want to know what he thought on an issue that might be slightly out of his typical ballpark. If moderators thought my posts were inappropriate I would have been banned already. It's not like it hasn't been done before - they would ban me if they had good reason to. They don't need you to help them out, okay?
Hey larjarse would you mind sharing some stories of yourself with women? As much as your advice is appreciated, sometimes advice is too general and having actual examples of how you responded to the situation would be much more helpful. Offer goes out to others too. =)
I care about what people think of me too much. How do I..I tell myself that I don't, over and over, but I still do. If its not a situation I can prepare myself for, I'm just awkward and have nothing to say. How do I stop stifling myself, or start the process of it?
I feel like with women, I've memorized build orders. I follow them blindly and if they don't work or the game changes, I don't know what to do. They get me some wins, so I stick with them. What do I do to start the process of understanding the game? What am I not allowing myself or being honest with myself about?
LarJarse is making this more complicated than it needs to be and I would think twice before following anything he has to say. This is a personal issue and should be dealt by yourself and with people who you trust. This guy is reluctant to even talk about himself, why should he be giving advice to anyone on confidence or women?
Thanks for all the advice so far given out LarJarse/Fanatasist/all you others (especially on Shauni's issue), I've been able to use much of the information given, however I feel like I need a bit more specific advice on how to actually improve my ability to let myself go and just be myself around this girl that I sense wants more than friendship.
You see, this girl is in my class (Danish school system goes with lines-of-study which makes up classes, we're in the same line of study with about 28 other people), and I'm nearly completely positive she has a 'crush' on me. In the sense that she tends to give quite an effort to start a conversation with me, laugh at even my stupidest jokes, and there was one time where she sought out eyecontact in class holding it with me for like 5 seconds. (There's more than that, of course but it's really hard to pinpoint)
My problem is that I'm unable to let myself go and just be part of conversations with her because I'm holding myself back. Holding myself back, being afraid to just start up a conversation about something random, because I don't know how she will respond to it. I need to know if there if there are specific ways of telling yourself to just let go and sink into conversation, and also how to just in general let yourself go. (Alcohol really works great for this sometimes, but I tend to be... Less than sophisticated, you could say, and really that is not how I wanna come across) I have had this problem for as long as I remember, and it is frustrating as hell. My problem could also be described as that my brain closes down refusing to come up with conversation, when we talk, unless I have something (school work, in general) to talk about, and then it just ends up pretty damn professional. How do you guys come up with stuff to talk about when there is nothing else? Starcraft hardly qualifies as interesting and I'm not doing any sports till spring. Please tell me if there's something I need to clarify, I'll do my best, but I'm just not sure I even know what my problem is.
- doesn`t have any relationships with anyone anywhere for about 3 years, since the start of the new school ( he`s 18 now ) at school he would stay alone somewhere in the corner all the time
- at the start of the school he seemed to try to make contacts but he was awkward and he usually ended up being silent
-is almost always late for school , sleeps on most lessons and seems to not care about any marks or anything like that at all, no homework all the time, his hands are in his pockets all the time unless he sleeps, if teacher asks him anything - he ll kindly respond or give some excuse as he seems to avoid conflicts
- wears the same all-black pictureless clothes all the time for whole school year
-has either expressionless/cold or bored look on his face all the time, almost never smiles, when u try to talk to him it might be quite awkward - tho sometimes I saw him laughing for real but its rare
-when asked something - will usually give conrete answer with emotionless tone
- drinks a shitloads of coffee
- sometimes he pulls off ridicilous marks , like getting the best mark out of entire class etc , seems rly good from maths , was good from physics when we had them , writes very good compositions for language lessons, writes reading tests very good
- often has the worst possible marks
- seems to be shy as hell at times
- cheats a lot , often u ll see him writing some cribs in classroom
-he s very good at sports but usually doesn`t put any effort or doesn`t come on lesson
- has long curly blond hair , very palm skin and overally good looks
- quite a few girls liked him but never managed to establish contact with him
I never saw anything like that . I d like to hear your opinions before saying what I think about it
On November 28 2009 14:17 KurtistheTurtle wrote: I care about what people think of me too much. How do I..I tell myself that I don't, over and over, but I still do. If its not a situation I can prepare myself for, I'm just awkward and have nothing to say. How do I stop stifling myself, or start the process of it?
I feel like with women, I've memorized build orders. I follow them blindly and if they don't work or the game changes, I don't know what to do. They get me some wins, so I stick with them. What do I do to start the process of understanding the game? What am I not allowing myself or being honest with myself about?
Everyone cares about what others think of them, and the people that don't have social disorders or are street bums or something. It's important to care about what others think of you because it's supremely selfish to assume that your opinion is the only one that matters on something as important as personality. Of course you have to be happy with who you are like those self-esteem mantras teach us, but you are going to meet way more people than just yourself in your lifetime. This means that what others think of you is just as important as what you think of yourself. If you don't care about what others think, then you will likely not learn from your social mistakes ( 'party fowls' ) and will eventually ostracize yourself. It's good that you care - instead of trying to combat it, use it as your driving force. What I mean by this is, control your environment by being flexible. Although PUAs generally preach that there is some sort of uniformity between every female and every conversation which makes the same routines acceptable everywhere, I believe that is just how it is marketed to socially awkward people to make it seem 'easy' to change who you are and get laid. The real purpose of that is to force people into situations like the one you are in now, and when a person realizes that pre-written dialogue does not suffice, they have to expand beyond that. Try to have conversations that are completely unplanned and that have no 'filler' talk (hi, hi, how are you, good you, good what did you do last weekend, not much blah blah BULLSHIT). The way to do this is to take risks (kind of funny that this is how I would describe these actions, but unfortunately in modern society this is almost the case): suggest topics, make jokes, go on tangents, become animated in your actions and words... in other words be unpredictable. By trying out different things you will see what works, what doesn't, and you will be able to fine-tune your "game" while becoming more flexible in conversation. Remember, each girl is a new game of StarCraft, should have no influence on your later games and should not be affected by your previous, unless the effect is having learned something new/correcting mistakes (:
Like I said, caring about what others think is normal - it's what we do with the conclusions we have formed about the opinions of others that is the real cause for most people's problems. We can use them (the conclusions) for self-improvement, for our own benefit (misdirecting people into believing something thing about you), and for a better understanding of what leads to what in conversation and in people's minds. Others, however, become scared and put up a wall because they are afraid of these opinions - realize that those opinions are based on YOU, and therefore you have control over them by what you say and do. Because you have control over them, you should rarely have to fear them. Hope this helps. GL!
On November 29 2009 02:33 UFO wrote: I guess I can post it here , can`t I ?
What do u think about this allien guy :
- doesn`t have any relationships with anyone anywhere for about 3 years, since the start of the new school ( he`s 18 now ) at school he would stay alone somewhere in the corner all the time
- at the start of the school he seemed to try to make contacts but he was awkward and he usually ended up being silent
-is almost always late for school , sleeps on most lessons and seems to not care about any marks or anything like that at all, no homework all the time, his hands are in his pockets all the time unless he sleeps, if teacher asks him anything - he ll kindly respond or give some excuse as he seems to avoid conflicts
- wears the same all-black pictureless clothes all the time for whole school year
-has either expressionless/cold or bored look on his face all the time, almost never smiles, when u try to talk to him it might be quite awkward - tho sometimes I saw him laughing for real but its rare
-when asked something - will usually give conrete answer with emotionless tone
- drinks a shitloads of coffee
- sometimes he pulls off ridicilous marks , like getting the best mark out of entire class etc , seems rly good from maths , was good from physics when we had them , writes very good compositions for language lessons, writes reading tests very good
- often has the worst possible marks
- seems to be shy as hell at times
- cheats a lot , often u ll see him writing some cribs in classroom
-he s very good at sports but usually doesn`t put any effort or doesn`t come on lesson
- has long curly blond hair , very palm skin and overally good looks
- quite a few girls liked him but never managed to establish contact with him
I never saw anything like that . I d like to hear your opinions before saying what I think about it
oh man, that's EDWARD CULLEN !!!
On a serious note. He might be depressed or something, dunno
On November 29 2009 01:05 Lovin wrote: Thanks for all the advice so far given out LarJarse/Fanatasist/all you others (especially on Shauni's issue), I've been able to use much of the information given, however I feel like I need a bit more specific advice on how to actually improve my ability to let myself go and just be myself around this girl that I sense wants more than friendship.
You see, this girl is in my class (Danish school system goes with lines-of-study which makes up classes, we're in the same line of study with about 28 other people), and I'm nearly completely positive she has a 'crush' on me. In the sense that she tends to give quite an effort to start a conversation with me, laugh at even my stupidest jokes, and there was one time where she sought out eyecontact in class holding it with me for like 5 seconds. (There's more than that, of course but it's really hard to pinpoint)
My problem is that I'm unable to let myself go and just be part of conversations with her because I'm holding myself back. Holding myself back, being afraid to just start up a conversation about something random, because I don't know how she will respond to it. I need to know if there if there are specific ways of telling yourself to just let go and sink into conversation, and also how to just in general let yourself go. (Alcohol really works great for this sometimes, but I tend to be... Less than sophisticated, you could say, and really that is not how I wanna come across) I have had this problem for as long as I remember, and it is frustrating as hell. My problem could also be described as that my brain closes down refusing to come up with conversation, when we talk, unless I have something (school work, in general) to talk about, and then it just ends up pretty damn professional. How do you guys come up with stuff to talk about when there is nothing else? Starcraft hardly qualifies as interesting and I'm not doing any sports till spring. Please tell me if there's something I need to clarify, I'll do my best, but I'm just not sure I even know what my problem is.
Simple philosophy that answers your question: if you aren't being yourself, she doesn't like YOU. She likes who she thinks you are. If your goal is to ultimately go out with her, then you have to take the risk to be yourself (with some finesse at first, of course, but still yourself). Sure you might not get anything out of it if it turns out she had misconceptions about you, but most of the time the things that people try to hold back because they are shy or embarrassed are what makes us more interesting/unique to others, especially girls who already have an interest in you. By being yourself in conversation and not holding yourself back, you will have the comfort of feeling free with her, free to say anything and free to be yourself. She already likes you, so clearly you are doing something right. If she doesn't know you well enough for you to be comfortable talking to her about anything, that means she probably likes you without knowing THAT much about you. Telling her more through your conversations and actions can make her like you even more (: When people open up to each other, that's how 'love' happens. Complete acceptance of one another is rare and it manifests only after a risk is taken, and that risk is opening yourself up. If she likes you still/more, then you win, you don't have to do anything but be yourself and maybe a little extra romantic/nice to her (which should come naturally through mutual feelings). If she doesn't like you after this risk, then she was a superficial bitch and is not the right one for you (or you have some sort of violent animal fetish or other similar setback that may throw a few straight-laced people off, but these can usually be fixed).
Something to talk about? I talk about more intricate things with a girl I already know when there is no apparent topic or when we've exhausted the typical ice-breaker conversations most people have. What I mean by that is, talk about something that requires more than the basic one-step linear thinking process (subject -> opinion). I ask what she thinks about something (not abortion or religion or anything heavy like that), like about modern music and where it's going, people and their tendencies/trends and what she thinks about them (there are SO many subjects you can address here... social awkwardness is a good one [especially for you, tell her you think people should be more open with each other and not fear judgment, that will make it easier for both of you to open up to each other I think (: ]), what her interests are and WHY, etc. etc. Conversations on this foundation will bring you closer because you find out more about each other on a deeper level than what your favorite band or color is, and its frankly quite rare to have conversations on this level. This makes your relationship a little bit more special.
Most importantly, remember that she already likes you, so the chances of you fucking up and ruining it are LOWER because she is inherently more willing to accept whatever little quirks you're afraid of showing. You don't need luck (:
EDIT: Sorry about the amount of parentheses lol can't really organize my thoughts too well, just woke up from drinking/smoking.
On November 29 2009 02:33 UFO wrote: I guess I can post it here , can`t I ?
What do u think about this allien guy :
- doesn`t have any relationships with anyone anywhere for about 3 years, since the start of the new school ( he`s 18 now ) at school he would stay alone somewhere in the corner all the time
- at the start of the school he seemed to try to make contacts but he was awkward and he usually ended up being silent
-is almost always late for school , sleeps on most lessons and seems to not care about any marks or anything like that at all, no homework all the time, his hands are in his pockets all the time unless he sleeps, if teacher asks him anything - he ll kindly respond or give some excuse as he seems to avoid conflicts
- wears the same all-black pictureless clothes all the time for whole school year
-has either expressionless/cold or bored look on his face all the time, almost never smiles, when u try to talk to him it might be quite awkward - tho sometimes I saw him laughing for real but its rare
-when asked something - will usually give conrete answer with emotionless tone
- drinks a shitloads of coffee
- sometimes he pulls off ridicilous marks , like getting the best mark out of entire class etc , seems rly good from maths , was good from physics when we had them , writes very good compositions for language lessons, writes reading tests very good
- often has the worst possible marks
- seems to be shy as hell at times
- cheats a lot , often u ll see him writing some cribs in classroom
-he s very good at sports but usually doesn`t put any effort or doesn`t come on lesson
- has long curly blond hair , very palm skin and overally good looks
- quite a few girls liked him but never managed to establish contact with him
I never saw anything like that . I d like to hear your opinions before saying what I think about it
Sounds like a byproduct of low self-esteem and strict parenting. Needs to open up to people more and be more confident in himself, needs to know that people can like him for who he is, etc. Is not good at adapting to a new atmosphere. Maybe had some bad experiences in the past. The main problem is that he is afraid to socialize because he thinks he is bad at it, which makes him worse at it over time because he does so little of it. These are pretty common problems, unfortunate that he has them to such an apparently high degree. Approach him and befriend him, then tell him these things, if you deem it appropriate/if you want to help. If he writes you off and doesn't listen, that's his loss, and he will have to live through life eventually learning through his own mistakes not the mistakes of others.
On November 29 2009 01:05 Lovin wrote: Thanks for all the advice so far given out LarJarse/Fanatasist/all you others (especially on Shauni's issue), I've been able to use much of the information given, however I feel like I need a bit more specific advice on how to actually improve my ability to let myself go and just be myself around this girl that I sense wants more than friendship.
You see, this girl is in my class (Danish school system goes with lines-of-study which makes up classes, we're in the same line of study with about 28 other people), and I'm nearly completely positive she has a 'crush' on me. In the sense that she tends to give quite an effort to start a conversation with me, laugh at even my stupidest jokes, and there was one time where she sought out eyecontact in class holding it with me for like 5 seconds. (There's more than that, of course but it's really hard to pinpoint)
My problem is that I'm unable to let myself go and just be part of conversations with her because I'm holding myself back. Holding myself back, being afraid to just start up a conversation about something random, because I don't know how she will respond to it. I need to know if there if there are specific ways of telling yourself to just let go and sink into conversation, and also how to just in general let yourself go. (Alcohol really works great for this sometimes, but I tend to be... Less than sophisticated, you could say, and really that is not how I wanna come across) I have had this problem for as long as I remember, and it is frustrating as hell. My problem could also be described as that my brain closes down refusing to come up with conversation, when we talk, unless I have something (school work, in general) to talk about, and then it just ends up pretty damn professional. How do you guys come up with stuff to talk about when there is nothing else? Starcraft hardly qualifies as interesting and I'm not doing any sports till spring. Please tell me if there's something I need to clarify, I'll do my best, but I'm just not sure I even know what my problem is.
Simple philosophy that answers your question: if you aren't being yourself, she doesn't like YOU. She likes who she thinks you are. If your goal is to ultimately go out with her, then you have to take the risk to be yourself (with some finesse at first, of course, but still yourself). Sure you might not get anything out of it if it turns out she had misconceptions about you, but most of the time the things that people try to hold back because they are shy or embarrassed are what makes us more interesting/unique to others, especially girls who already have an interest in you. By being yourself in conversation and not holding yourself back, you will have the comfort of feeling free with her, free to say anything and free to be yourself. She already likes you, so clearly you are doing something right. If she doesn't know you well enough for you to be comfortable talking to her about anything, that means she probably likes you without knowing THAT much about you. Telling her more through your conversations and actions can make her like you even more (: When people open up to each other, that's how 'love' happens. Complete acceptance of one another is rare and it manifests only after a risk is taken, and that risk is opening yourself up. If she likes you still/more, then you win, you don't have to do anything but be yourself and maybe a little extra romantic/nice to her (which should come naturally through mutual feelings). If she doesn't like you after this risk, then she was a superficial bitch and is not the right one for you (or you have some sort of violent animal fetish or other similar setback that may throw a few straight-laced people off, but these can usually be fixed).
Something to talk about? I talk about more intricate things with a girl I already know when there is no apparent topic or when we've exhausted the typical ice-breaker conversations most people have. What I mean by that is, talk about something that requires more than the basic one-step linear thinking process (subject -> opinion). I ask what she thinks about something (not abortion or religion or anything heavy like that), like about modern music and where it's going, people and their tendencies/trends and what she thinks about them (there are SO many subjects you can address here... social awkwardness is a good one [especially for you, tell her you think people should be more open with each other and not fear judgment, that will make it easier for both of you to open up to each other I think (: ]), what her interests are and WHY, etc. etc. Conversations on this foundation will bring you closer because you find out more about each other on a deeper level than what your favorite band or color is, and its frankly quite rare to have conversations on this level. This makes your relationship a little bit more special.
Most importantly, remember that she already likes you, so the chances of you fucking up and ruining it are LOWER because she is inherently more willing to accept whatever little quirks you're afraid of showing. You don't need luck (:
EDIT: Sorry about the amount of parentheses lol can't really organize my thoughts too well, just woke up from drinking/smoking.
Thanks Fanata! You've always been my favorite poster
alright, heres a situation for the love gods to decipher: theres this girl, whom i have some often but superficial contact with. but she always says hi to me first when we meet, so i aint sure if its just being friendly or what. anyway, she has been asking to drink/hang out with me for a couple of weeks, but i put it off till yesterday. It should be a clear indication of interest but i'm not sure if shes just bored and want to do something else other than studying. and while drinking yesterday, she suddenly blurted about her ex-bfs, and how she was being controlled and ended up breaking up, and then suddenly we swapped some sexploits of ours. but then she suddenly started talking about a potential bf she was texting and about how he seems to be taking it slow... what am i to think of this?
here's my guide 1 go to parties a lot, if you have trouble finding good parties just get friends that like to drink, if you have trouble with this join a student organisation (read: frat, but you want to do this anyway since frats are fucking awesome) 2 just look around and if a chick looks at you and smile just say 'hi how are you doing' 3 make out, i usually pick the point at which i run out of stuff to say, which is usually about 2 minutes for me lol 4 sex, preferably at her place so you can sneak out in the morning and dont have to wash your sheets, also have a condom in your wallet at all times because lol i know some idiots who dont and ended up getting some disease
On November 09 2009 14:59 NeverGG wrote: Any tips for avoiding being hit on by taxi drivers who are old enough to be your father? Also tips on looking less Russian/French and more advice on how to deal with handling hot stuff (aka. ForGG.) and potentially the attention of someone who resembles a zergling.
If you want to scare off men just wear a bodywarmer.
On November 11 2009 12:53 fanatacist wrote: Making chitchat isn't interesting to anyone, it's like filler talk between the real appeal of conversation. Putting some content in what you say (and maybe making it interesting from an objective stand point) helps attract others because they think you are interesting.
This is probably somewhat true but you're basically telling someone to be a better talker, not very concrete advice.
On November 28 2009 14:17 KurtistheTurtle wrote: I care about what people think of me too much. How do I..I tell myself that I don't, over and over, but I still do. If its not a situation I can prepare myself for, I'm just awkward and have nothing to say. How do I stop stifling myself, or start the process of it?
I feel like with women, I've memorized build orders. I follow them blindly and if they don't work or the game changes, I don't know what to do. They get me some wins, so I stick with them. What do I do to start the process of understanding the game? What am I not allowing myself or being honest with myself about?
About the roommates gf post, i got a similar situation, i found my black roommates neurotic white gf (nice tits and legs) crying and i guess he was breaking up because it was long distance and she was too clingy. Well, i like clingy girls because they are phreaky in bed, i found her a ride to the trainstation and ended up making out with her that night. She did not want to fuck me in the dorm room where her new ex was sleeping, but i insisted that she should take revenge on him. See, girls like her and the girl you are discribing are simply too young and inexperienced to know what she wants, and guess what your youth and inexperience makes you! They also tend to internalize problems in the relationship. Similarly, i think the nerds on this site who got rejected by women think that it is their OWN fault, whiel the truth is that you and her simply did not click. Those of you who think you are not attractive enough, maybe you should lower your standards and date someone within your league.... For example fat chicks need love too, and guess what you gonna marry fatso! Kurtis, remember what we talked about zoning out. Yeah, you and i share that. You just have to be charismatic and focus on her instead of how you feel in the situation. "What am I not allowing myself or being honest with myself about?" what do you mean? LarJarsE: So I got a fucking situation right now... Larjarse, you may recall i was into some girl and did like every thing to impress her... Well she told me the other day how we have to be friends, bla bla bla, so i suggested we should just not see each other, but she said we should still hang out, i said ok, how about you come to my place and have tea. I pretty much decided to switch to someone else, as i thought by dropping the f bomb, she was giving me the polite boot... Well, i was watching WCG final on a school comp lab, when i met this artsy fartsy girl. She invited me to her dorm room for tea (4am after wcg finals) and read me some very erotic poetry she wrote. She ended up in my lap making out that night, just one day after the previous girl dropped the f bomb.... I invited the artsy one over for dinner on Sunday, but i get a call from the previous gal. I facebook chatted her on wcg final dayand she thought i was sarcastic when i told her how my market value increases as i approach 30, and hers decreases at the same rate, so i cannot blame her for ending up on the friend side. Anyway, she was very upset and said i read things into what she said, but i do not know how i can misunderstand when she DID say we have to be friends.... She told me how it takes time for her, and she feels like she barely knows me. Funny thing is, i have been seeing her since august, and i open up to her way more often, so yeah she knows way more about me than i know about her. So we are to meet again on tuesday, and it sounds like she wants me( this girl never had a bf or even a kiss). So the artsy girl comes by, and again we slip tongue, but she tells me she is a virgin.... But what is really fucked up, when i was sucking on her titties, she like squirted some tasteless, acidic liquid into my mouth.. can she do that without being pregnant? She does sound and act like a virgin, but what if she simply wants me to shag her so that she can say i knocked her up...????????? And what to do with the other girl who claims to want to be friends, but insists on seeing me and getting to know me better.... Wow.... wtf? advice, thoughts??? Also, uhm, the reason why i like prostitutes is because it is easy to convince them to play dead while i have sex with them. How do i communicate it to a gf that i am a necrophiliac?
This is my objection to this thread: Most of the advice basically comes down to stuff that seems completely unnatural to the person asking the question, and the person will probably end up not really applying it anyway. You guys are telling people how to act, this is not how you're gonna change anyone's behavior. If you want to see change give advice that puts them in situations at which point everything takes care of itself, like joining a club or something. Situations shape people, not telling people how to behave, which is just gonna end up looking really awkward.
I mean, most of the advice makes sense here, but it's not gonna get anyone laid if you ask me. But hey I'm just the guy who consistently scores A's in social psych / group dynamics!
edit: Also I guarantee that you are not too ugly to date/get laid lol, if you answered this on the poll as to why you are having trouble with chicks you are just plain wrong, this is never the issue. This is an excuse, not a problem.
Also, I am not trolling.... Here is my take on things: I once chatted with a college professor, a black woman who was a psych doctoral laureate. I wanted to know the key to her success, she had great disadvantages due to her gender AND race. She told me this: "people always want what they cant have" That is sooo true in every aspect of human life! So like, you want the blonde cheerleader and you get hit on by a walrus, but who do you end up with? A girl just like you, who vacillates between the alpha male whose cock she would suck at an instant and the loser idiot who tries to kiss her at a party when drunk. Between Romeo and Juliet and Midsummer Nights Dream, the latter depicts the truth of romantic interactions more fully and accurately! there is another strategy that worked for me and LarjarsE did not mention: this only works if you mean it, but if you find a girl incredibly beautiful you should SAY that and show interest. she will mock you, test you but you will persist and WIN her. like that idiot in every girls favorite The Notebook. He build a freaking house for her, that is commitment! So eventually she settles with the provider after all. just like in mid summer nights dream the couples are formed pretty much within each others league. Another great movie that shows the power of persistance is the Graduate, one of the best fucking movies made. Here is a scene from it that speaks for itself, no knowledge of the plot is necessary. the good part starts at 1:50 :
I am fine with conversation once the ball gets rolling, but I fail in the aspect of getting the opening topic started. there any general conversation starters you use? Perhaps a few you use at parties, around school, etc.
I understand setting has a lot to do with it, but in certain places, such as the grocery store, it is tough to get something going by asking about things such as food items :p
edit: That is if you are still reading this post from the beginning of the month
On November 29 2009 09:58 Carthac wrote: Hello Larjarse!
I am fine with conversation once the ball gets rolling, but I fail in the aspect of getting the opening topic started. there any general conversation starters you use? Perhaps a few you use at parties, around school, etc.
I understand setting has a lot to do with it, but in certain places, such as the grocery store, it is tough to get something going by asking about things such as food items :p
'Hi, how are you doing.'
Im serious, 'hi' has been scientifically proven to be the best opener for conversations.
On November 29 2009 09:58 Carthac wrote: Hello Larjarse!
I am fine with conversation once the ball gets rolling, but I fail in the aspect of getting the opening topic started. there any general conversation starters you use? Perhaps a few you use at parties, around school, etc.
I understand setting has a lot to do with it, but in certain places, such as the grocery store, it is tough to get something going by asking about things such as food items :p
'Hi, how are you doing.'
Im serious, 'hi' has been scientifically proven to be the best opener for conversations.
hahaha, i am not sure that is what he meant by opener, i think he wants an attention grabber. I think anything works if you show by your inuendo and tone that u are interested in getting to know her.
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