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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 01 2009 02:57 GMT
#21
On October 01 2009 11:54 asianskill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 11:42 illu wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
It's just sad in general how fucked up the Nationalists were. They were handed every advantage, but chose to piss it away with every decision they made. If they weren't so corrupt/stupid back then, China might look a lot freer today.


You are wrong. More like Japanese fucked up Nationalists while Communists were hiding in dungeons.


Practically the opposite


Just look at the numbers as to how many Nationalists died in WW2 than Communists. The ratio was about 10:1.
:]
potchip
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia260 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 03:06:45
October 01 2009 03:02 GMT
#22
As in any war, the victors get to blow the trumpet.

However during the Japanese invasion in WW2, it is the nationalists that weathered most of the attack. Communists back then simply do not have the equipment to deal with a properly equipped & at the time modern army. The more advanced equipment themselves come from allied support, which dealt with the nationalist government. The Soviets were too occupied to provide, first with the german invasion then with the loot to provide much help.
king_tyris
Profile Joined September 2009
7 Posts
October 01 2009 03:02 GMT
#23
On October 01 2009 10:32 Masamune wrote:
I wish America did this. We probably have no clue about the kind of shit they have, with all their top secret technology and military-related stuff. It would be like looking into the future, only it would be the present.

I would probably only watch the Chinese version if it was the only program on the only television channel being broadcasted. It seems like it will just be a large bunch of people marching in unison, with second rate tech compared to the Americans, with the only message being how strong they are...


actually the Chinese military is currently superior to the States...
god is dead
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
October 01 2009 03:03 GMT
#24
On October 01 2009 12:02 king_tyris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 10:32 Masamune wrote:
I wish America did this. We probably have no clue about the kind of shit they have, with all their top secret technology and military-related stuff. It would be like looking into the future, only it would be the present.

I would probably only watch the Chinese version if it was the only program on the only television channel being broadcasted. It seems like it will just be a large bunch of people marching in unison, with second rate tech compared to the Americans, with the only message being how strong they are...


actually the Chinese military is currently superior to the States...


lol
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 03:09:50
October 01 2009 03:06 GMT
#25
What do they keep shouting when they drive by and salute?

Edit: Fork and spoon truck? What's all that about. No chopsticks?
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
October 01 2009 03:07 GMT
#26
On October 01 2009 11:57 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 11:54 asianskill wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:42 illu wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
It's just sad in general how fucked up the Nationalists were. They were handed every advantage, but chose to piss it away with every decision they made. If they weren't so corrupt/stupid back then, China might look a lot freer today.


You are wrong. More like Japanese fucked up Nationalists while Communists were hiding in dungeons.


Practically the opposite


Just look at the numbers as to how many Nationalists died in WW2 than Communists. The ratio was about 10:1.



That's cause they fought totally differently.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 01 2009 03:08 GMT
#27
On October 01 2009 11:57 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 11:54 asianskill wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:42 illu wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
It's just sad in general how fucked up the Nationalists were. They were handed every advantage, but chose to piss it away with every decision they made. If they weren't so corrupt/stupid back then, China might look a lot freer today.


You are wrong. More like Japanese fucked up Nationalists while Communists were hiding in dungeons.


Practically the opposite


Just look at the numbers as to how many Nationalists died in WW2 than Communists. The ratio was about 10:1.


where's your perspective? 10:1 would mean something if they had equal forces. anyway Imma avoid that deadend flame-bait discussion.

the communist movement came out of the nationalist party that focused on "rule of the people," and it was violently put down but never died. it's a long and complicated history, but point is China has restored "honor" to itself, the dragon has risen again.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 01 2009 03:09 GMT
#28
On October 01 2009 11:52 Aphelion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 11:42 illu wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
It's just sad in general how fucked up the Nationalists were. They were handed every advantage, but chose to piss it away with every decision they made. If they weren't so corrupt/stupid back then, China might look a lot freer today.


You are wrong. More like Japanese fucked up Nationalists while Communists were hiding in dungeons.



From what I understand it, the Communist really gained popular support during the war because of their war efforts against the Japanese looked a lot better alongside the Nationalists.


During WWII, the nationalist and communist parties made an agreement to fight against the Japanese as allies. Several times, the nationalist army refused to participate in battle, and even started handing over land to the invading Japanese. As a result, they became extremely unpopular with the chinese people, and the communist party was able to take over.

And btw - the entire "Free Tibet" thing is a load of bullshit... Tibet was a serfdom until the PRC took control -,-... during the riots from last year, the ratio of Han Chinese to Tibetan citizens killed was 15:1
:)
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 01 2009 03:10 GMT
#29
im watching on tv right now lol shits crazy hahah

soldieres arel ike robotic and all exactly the same height lol.

well acfutalyl ij ust got back to my room cuz i got bored of seeing a billion tanks and wahtever.

but still pretty epic.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 01 2009 03:10 GMT
#30
On October 01 2009 12:03 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 12:02 king_tyris wrote:
On October 01 2009 10:32 Masamune wrote:
I wish America did this. We probably have no clue about the kind of shit they have, with all their top secret technology and military-related stuff. It would be like looking into the future, only it would be the present.

I would probably only watch the Chinese version if it was the only program on the only television channel being broadcasted. It seems like it will just be a large bunch of people marching in unison, with second rate tech compared to the Americans, with the only message being how strong they are...


actually the Chinese military is currently superior to the States...


lol


I wouldn't be surprised if this were true, the US might have a slight edge in technology but China has a way bigger army and currently the economic advantage.
Never Knows Best.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 03:15:49
October 01 2009 03:14 GMT
#31
On October 01 2009 12:10 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 12:03 phosphorylation wrote:
On October 01 2009 12:02 king_tyris wrote:
On October 01 2009 10:32 Masamune wrote:
I wish America did this. We probably have no clue about the kind of shit they have, with all their top secret technology and military-related stuff. It would be like looking into the future, only it would be the present.

I would probably only watch the Chinese version if it was the only program on the only television channel being broadcasted. It seems like it will just be a large bunch of people marching in unison, with second rate tech compared to the Americans, with the only message being how strong they are...


actually the Chinese military is currently superior to the States...


lol


I wouldn't be surprised if this were true, the US might have a slight edge in technology but China has a way bigger army and currently the economic advantage.

3 million standing army is no joke. but the world is a totally different place compare to the cold war era.

no big guns are gonna fight each other. it used to be fear of nuclear annihilation, these days world's a smaller place, it's all business now.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 01 2009 03:14 GMT
#32
YAYY PLANESSS
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 01 2009 03:15 GMT
#33
On October 01 2009 12:10 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 12:03 phosphorylation wrote:
On October 01 2009 12:02 king_tyris wrote:
On October 01 2009 10:32 Masamune wrote:
I wish America did this. We probably have no clue about the kind of shit they have, with all their top secret technology and military-related stuff. It would be like looking into the future, only it would be the present.

I would probably only watch the Chinese version if it was the only program on the only television channel being broadcasted. It seems like it will just be a large bunch of people marching in unison, with second rate tech compared to the Americans, with the only message being how strong they are...


actually the Chinese military is currently superior to the States...


lol


I wouldn't be surprised if this were true, the US might have a slight edge in technology but China has a way bigger army and currently the economic advantage.


I dont think it matters which army is larger...
whoever has more nukes wins rofl
:)
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 03:22:53
October 01 2009 03:16 GMT
#34
On October 01 2009 11:41 Gokey wrote:
Well, China has been peaceful with their army in the sense that they haven't really invaded anyone in their history. Internal affairs are another matter, though.

Well, it's a proudful moment in China, which I think is a good thing as long as they keep on working towards reform.

Tibet in 1950, India in 1962. Also, they shelled Taiwan and Chinese nationalist holdings in the 50's culminating in the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis. (Just a bit of historical accuracy Kennigit, no judgments...)

Also, I'm trying to get one of the streams to work, thanks for posting them. This should be interesting. We saw from the olympic opening ceremonies a taste, I think, of what we're in for. Read a great article in the NY Times about it.

Read here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/world/asia/29beijing.html?_r=1&scp=7&sq=china 60&st=cse

***

On October 01 2009 12:07 Aphelion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 11:57 illu wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:54 asianskill wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:42 illu wrote:
On October 01 2009 11:28 Slow Motion wrote:
It's just sad in general how fucked up the Nationalists were. They were handed every advantage, but chose to piss it away with every decision they made. If they weren't so corrupt/stupid back then, China might look a lot freer today.


You are wrong. More like Japanese fucked up Nationalists while Communists were hiding in dungeons.


Practically the opposite


Just look at the numbers as to how many Nationalists died in WW2 than Communists. The ratio was about 10:1.



That's cause they fought totally differently.


The Nationalists were winning the Chinese Civil War until the Japanese invasion. The nationalists, being mostly in control, we're the ones targeted by the Japanese. The communists were in dire straights at the time, and therefore were less prevalent in the resistance to the Japanese invasion. As time went on, they did grow stronger, but it is true that the Nationalist army was the main opposition force.

***

On October 01 2009 12:10 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 12:03 phosphorylation wrote:
On October 01 2009 12:02 king_tyris wrote:
On October 01 2009 10:32 Masamune wrote:
I wish America did this. We probably have no clue about the kind of shit they have, with all their top secret technology and military-related stuff. It would be like looking into the future, only it would be the present.

I would probably only watch the Chinese version if it was the only program on the only television channel being broadcasted. It seems like it will just be a large bunch of people marching in unison, with second rate tech compared to the Americans, with the only message being how strong they are...


actually the Chinese military is currently superior to the States...


lol


I wouldn't be surprised if this were true, the US might have a slight edge in technology but China has a way bigger army and currently the economic advantage.


The Chinese have the largest army in terms of manpower, but the US maintains a vast technological lead over the Chinese. In terms of an economic advantage, you're also not entirely correct. Although China's economy is growing very quickly and is incredibly big, the world's capital still largely rests in the hands of the United States. For a large part, the companies that manufacture in China are still based in the US.


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kaizenmx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States110 Posts
October 01 2009 03:16 GMT
#35
On October 01 2009 12:02 king_tyris wrote:
actually the Chinese military is currently superior to the States...

Aren't more than half of chinese military technology basically a improved version of Soviet weapons tech? I know that most of chinese military hardware basically born from old Soviet-based technology.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 01 2009 03:16 GMT
#36
On October 01 2009 12:15 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2009 12:10 Slaughter wrote:
On October 01 2009 12:03 phosphorylation wrote:
On October 01 2009 12:02 king_tyris wrote:
On October 01 2009 10:32 Masamune wrote:
I wish America did this. We probably have no clue about the kind of shit they have, with all their top secret technology and military-related stuff. It would be like looking into the future, only it would be the present.

I would probably only watch the Chinese version if it was the only program on the only television channel being broadcasted. It seems like it will just be a large bunch of people marching in unison, with second rate tech compared to the Americans, with the only message being how strong they are...


actually the Chinese military is currently superior to the States...


lol


I wouldn't be surprised if this were true, the US might have a slight edge in technology but China has a way bigger army and currently the economic advantage.


I dont think it matters which army is larger...
whoever has more nukes wins rofl

yeah...

if there is such a thing as a winner in a nuclear war
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 01 2009 03:19 GMT
#37
Why are you guys all talking about war? This is peaceful day of sauntering with expensive equipment.
Pieguy314
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada262 Posts
October 01 2009 03:22 GMT
#38
Did anyone notice that when the female group was passing by, Hu Jingtao suddenly started smiling and clapping?
asdfasdf
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 01 2009 03:24 GMT
#39
On October 01 2009 12:22 Pieguy314 wrote:
Did anyone notice that when the female group was passing by, Hu Jingtao suddenly started smiling and clapping?


Yes. He did it each time as well.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 03:27:09
October 01 2009 03:24 GMT
#40
is there a re-broadcast somewhere? anyone?

On October 01 2009 12:22 Pieguy314 wrote:
Did anyone notice that when the female group was passing by, Hu Jingtao suddenly started smiling and clapping?


lol nice "omg hes thinking what I'm thinking!" right there
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