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OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
March 21 2014 06:06 GMT
#5041
Woo, just a bit of thanks guys

Per you guys's advice I've been topping most of my hard map high scores recently.
I even managed to S a few of the a/b's I've had before..

So hyped now :D
Thought I'd share so many thanks ^^
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
CAPSLOCKLOL
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States135 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 17:29:24
March 23 2014 01:17 GMT
#5042
I installed windows 7 on my mac because I really wanted to play osu again. I dunno wtf happened but all of a sudden I can stream much better tttl style. I managed to pass mad machine and failed freedom dive (another) in the last 15 seconds because I got too excited.

edit: pen just broke...gg
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 05:54:50
March 26 2014 05:37 GMT
#5043
Wrong thread I am noob.

This thread deserves a bump anyways?!?
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:39:25
March 26 2014 21:32 GMT
#5044
On March 23 2014 10:17 CAPSLOCKLOL wrote:
I installed windows 7 on my mac because I really wanted to play osu again. I dunno wtf happened but all of a sudden I can stream much better tttl style. I managed to pass mad machine and failed freedom dive (another) in the last 15 seconds because I got too excited.

edit: pen just broke...gg
aight, pretty impressive. I'm not consistent enough for freedom dive and not fast enough for mad machine, sadly. ):

What do you mean by tttl style? :$
Plus, i can't find your account anymore. Did your name change?

@Xafnia: This thread never has enough bumps :D
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 26 2014 22:01 GMT
#5045
Oh, and everyone should check out this map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/69166

So fun to play and the music is hilarious.
CAPSLOCKLOL
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States135 Posts
March 27 2014 02:35 GMT
#5046
I made a new account, Big Tuna. TTTL style is where you tap on the tablet with your pen and use one key on the keyboard. It allows you to stream ~200 forever at the cost of really inconsistent accuracy.

I got one of those huion tablets and the drivers are garbage, maybe it's because of boot camp? I banged my wacom pen a bit and it's kinda working again so I can play for now... :/
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 13:30:59
March 27 2014 13:30 GMT
#5047
On March 27 2014 11:35 CAPSLOCKLOL wrote:
I made a new account, Big Tuna. TTTL style is where you tap on the tablet with your pen and use one key on the keyboard. It allows you to stream ~200 forever at the cost of really inconsistent accuracy.

I got one of those huion tablets and the drivers are garbage, maybe it's because of boot camp? I banged my wacom pen a bit and it's kinda working again so I can play for now... :/
Ah ok, i figured it must have been something like that.
I suck at tablet in general, so i can't even imagine how tttl would work out for me. I did notice there were small cursor issues when touching the tablet with the pen, like the cursor not moving while my pen did just after. That probably was because i had a bad tablet, though.

I once considered a keyboard/mouse click hybrid style, but my aim went pretty bad, and i had no feel for streams at all. Not saying it's bad, i know lesjuh did some very impressive things with it.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 02:46:13
March 28 2014 00:25 GMT
#5048
On March 27 2014 07:01 Yorbon wrote:
Oh, and everyone should check out this map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/69166

So fun to play and the music is hilarious.


Passed second try: http://www.twitch.tv/cyrostarcraft/b/514844775

apparently can't read that kind of pace very well because i got much better at the slower maps like a few that you gave me, but completely failderped like 5+ times in terms of timing and mouse movement there

right now i'm trying to improve quite a lot of things:

1; Aim!! where mouse should be and when it should be there, other mental stuff. I found a few times i got better at the game in general and suddenly wasn't good enough here, enough to have a lot of issues, you can improve so much unexpectedly just by improving this
2; Stamina for mouse+KB+posture
3; sustained stream speed (currently at about 165)
4; stream stability across a range of speeds
5; mouse comfort
6; mouse accuracy
7;max speed bursts for up to ~10 long streams
8; complex patterns with 2 fingers

quick list, probably missed out and forgot some stuff




I want to be able to FC this with smaller circle size, right now i can't put my mouse where i want it to and i end up making a lot of silly mistakes and failed snaps due to wrist being tense so need to fix that

I'm much much more comfortable with left-right than i am angles, on 1:04 to 1:08 there, the two cross-screen jumps on the X axis at the end to the two sliders are super easy for me compared to other stuff

Playing with DPI a little!



1:45-2:00 is my fav bit!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 02:06:21
March 28 2014 02:04 GMT
#5049
I'm using 500 dpi at resolution 1280x800. This means i have to move my mouse 2.56 inches to cross screen from left to right.
With cyro's settings, you'll need 2.37 inches to cross screen. So our settings are quite similar.


I just re-read this - i want to point out that since the osu playing area does not scale to widescreen, you're actually modifying your sens by changing from 1280x720 to 1280x800 i think (you're making the play area taller, thus also wider as it's effectively a square, not a rectangle that changes shape with aspect ratio) even though you wouldn't calculate it otherwise

for comparing sens in osu if that's true, you must use the same aspect ratio (16 : 9 for most people) though you can make pretty accurate approximations
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kaldr
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
March 28 2014 17:10 GMT
#5050
Man I'm just so bad at AR10, tried that Make A Move map from your video and failed at the 0:25 section, alot lol.

Also I got this score today.
[image loading]
Would of liked better accuracy.
The map is super fun imo so if you haven't played it yet, give it a go http://osu.ppy.sh/b/150898
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
March 28 2014 20:42 GMT
#5051
On March 29 2014 02:10 Kaldr wrote:
Man I'm just so bad at AR10, tried that Make A Move map from your video and failed at the 0:25 section, alot lol.

Also I got this score today.
[image loading]
Would of liked better accuracy.
The map is super fun imo so if you haven't played it yet, give it a go http://osu.ppy.sh/b/150898


Will try that

There's an ar9 diff too, i'm not a big fan of sticking to default AR, it's good to be able to do what's on the map by default, but i often either set to the easiest AR (which happens to be some of the highest that i can handle for maps like this, but is ar9 or 8 for other stuff or even less for slower)

^or i set to a specific ar, like 6 or 10 to add challenge and learn to be able to adjust to it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 22:08:15
March 28 2014 22:05 GMT
#5052
Oh man. My computer just crashed and I can't get it to work anymore. ><
I'll try again the next few days and worst case I need to get a new one
to be honest, I Kindof expected this to happen sooner, as I dropped wine into my laptop Like a year ago. But I foolishly thought the danger was gone.

All my maps gone, skin gone, settings gone if forgotten. I had some very good not submitted maps as well, so those are lost as well. Fuck this shit. TT

Also, the map kaldr played is a fantastic map. My favourite natteke map atm. Very Nice jumps and natteke esque rhythms.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
March 28 2014 23:14 GMT
#5053
Won't power on?

All my maps gone, skin gone, settings gone if forgotten.


If it's a problem with anything aside from HDD, you can just grab it out of the laptop and run it from any other system with all data intact np

if it's HDD problem, you can drop in a new one and all's fine for a low price
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 23:35:05
March 28 2014 23:34 GMT
#5054
I don't really like that map above nomod, it's not challenging to me yet i'm not consistent enough with mouse to FC a map like that which is ~3.5 minutes long without taking 5-10 attempts and getting lucky, so no fun
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
April 01 2014 07:19 GMT
#5055
[image loading]



still kinda working as i go with hand position etc
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 18:02:41
April 03 2014 17:58 GMT
#5056
THAT FELT SO GOOD

i wasn't even supposed to be on this difficulty of the map, wowowowowowow



was trying to make jumpy vids to show cursor thing: like/dislike?

30fps is a little bit of a shame, i wish i had recorded at 60 or 120

0:19 to end wowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowow
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
April 04 2014 20:57 GMT
#5057
Osu is hard.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-06 01:56:48
April 06 2014 01:55 GMT
#5058
^ so trueeeee

On that note though I actually will ask something

So recently, I've been trying to get into the habit of reading ahead on maps.
Something I've noticed since I've been trying to get better at this is I'm just "trusting myself to have my mouse where it needs to be"

Example:

I read a pattern ->
I move on to the next one while I go through that pattern on "auto pilot" from my memory.
This may have very adverse effects though so I'm going to ask..
Is this a really bad habit to be building?
Like in the immediate it has helped me out a lot with singles because I'm not stressing and worrying over each note or jump between. I just estimate it and time my finger taps with the music.

Usually if I miss it's because I either:
1) stuttered my fingures (I have a bad habit of deciding I should lead with index on x or w/e. and then deciding after I see the full pattern [or most of it], that beginning with middle on z is better. This leads to some really awkward moments where I stutter and either mash both buttons or neither.
2) My acc is just atrocious and I don't even end up with my cursor on the note at all.
3) I miss-read the pattern. There was a single at the end of a double triplet or w/e I miss cuz I'm bad ;p.

Note that option 2 is the problem I'm trying to fix with this method in the beginning.
If I stay on the pattern, I find I tense up and usually over/undershoot my target all together and end up with misses at worst, combo breaks at best.
So just wondering if I'm doing the right thing here to try to correct that problem or if I should take a different approach?

Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-06 19:10:58
April 06 2014 16:13 GMT
#5059
When i play hidden (see a few posts up, last 10 seconds of that vid) i'm usually looking ahead and relying harshly on muscle memory - if you don't have that down really well though, it can be impossible to play like that

If you can't comfortably hit notes without looking at them, you should probably not read too far ahead and focus a bit more on your cursor position - that's part of why i have the big "+" thing on screen now - it helps to identify cursor position without focusing eyes on it

Rewatching vid, on the 8-jump pattern, my eyes flash across 1-2-3 before my cursor reaches the first note, i'm basically reading two jumps ahead throughout those 8 jumps. I probably don't do that all of the time, but if you can read 1 jump ahead it probably helps, if not then just read+jump as you can i guess

Not really sure if that's the best way to play, because i didn't talk a lot in depth with better players than me about it, but it seems to work quite well.

Usually if I miss it's because I either:
1) stuttered my fingures (I have a bad habit of deciding I should lead with index on x or w/e. and then deciding after I see the full pattern [or most of it], that beginning with middle on z is better. This leads to some really awkward moments where I stutter and either mash both buttons or neither.


My fails are almost entirely either this or mouse fails. I order a Xornet earlier to see if i'm more comfortable with it, and i'm looking at stuff like the Avior 7000



edit: Actually, i run into this with sustained streams too. If i could stream constantly, i could probably hold a combo into many hundreds for 170bpm solid stream, but i kind of pause/stutter and then i have to vary my tempo to catch up, which i can do to hold combo indefinitely at like 140/150bpm, but it gets harder the faster i go to correct, and also happens more often. I think it might just go away with stream practice
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
April 06 2014 23:50 GMT
#5060
Cyro I know you're a dedicated mouse fan, but just wondering if you'd ever consider switching to tablet?
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