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United States43365 Posts
On November 26 2011 13:27 sermokala wrote:
So what should I invest my money in if not t2 bpos?
also if anyone has a legion with partial faction fittings and wants to do incursions with a competitive fc hit me up.
T2 bpos pay themselves off in around 3-4 years on average. I'd be willing to pay 1% interest weekly on isk deposited. Seriously, t2 bpos are terrible.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
For the most part, T2 BPOs are a prestige thing, not an investment tool.
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;( all my dreams of what I wanted in eve are crushed now.
"so what are you guys going to do with your incursion money"
I'm going to take sov in fountain.
Are you serious about that investment thing? Would be nice to make some money with this isk until I can figure out what I want to do with it.
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United States43365 Posts
Yes, I'm serious. I've been investing with tl funds for months now and have handled hundreds of billions with a high point of 120b held at one point.
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nice log in and take my money. I'm sitting in the hatchery right now
I hope kawk didn't take me serios with the FN 1600 and the CN. I've really havn't bought any faction mods past the hardeners.
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On November 26 2011 14:49 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 13:27 sermokala wrote:
So what should I invest my money in if not t2 bpos?
also if anyone has a legion with partial faction fittings and wants to do incursions with a competitive fc hit me up. T2 bpos pay themselves off in around 3-4 years on average. I'd be willing to pay 1% interest weekly on isk deposited. Seriously, t2 bpos are terrible.
That seems a little bit odd. An organized corporation could break even in a few months. Copying them to BPCs and using them with numerous characters should really yield great rewards. That is of course if the T2 BPO is for a item that people are interested in but that should go without saying.
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United States43365 Posts
On November 26 2011 18:17 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 14:49 KwarK wrote:On November 26 2011 13:27 sermokala wrote:
So what should I invest my money in if not t2 bpos?
also if anyone has a legion with partial faction fittings and wants to do incursions with a competitive fc hit me up. T2 bpos pay themselves off in around 3-4 years on average. I'd be willing to pay 1% interest weekly on isk deposited. Seriously, t2 bpos are terrible. That seems a little bit odd. An organized corporation could break even in a few months. Copying them to BPCs and using them with numerous characters should really yield great rewards. That is of course if the T2 BPO is for a item that people are interested in but that should go without saying.
They vary but the problem is people want to invest in t2 bpos so they can "print money". In a free market the price of a profitable bpo is based upon how low of a ROI people are willing to accept and because of the flawed perception of BPOs as good that rate is forced down to incredibly low levels. The guy in this topic is a classic example. He's an incursion bear who made a few hundred mil and decided to get t2 bpos with no business plan.
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If you want get in the t2 buisness, start inventing t2 modules. I can describe how it works: CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK
though the profit is good
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I actually do tech 2 manufacturing. 9 manufacturing slots and 9 research slots running all day. Click Click click indeed.
BPO have the same issue as faction POS. They have a good profit, but the investment cost is so high that you only get a small increase of your investment per week.
One of the problem with having a large amount of isk though, is that it's hard to get a return on such large amount. Once you reach over 100 billion, it's hard to get a reliable return. Market stocks can be bought, but it can backfire and it will also take a lot of time to drain the stocks when the price go up.
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Lalalaland34498 Posts
Hahahahahahahaha
Sorry but the way Kwark operates just makes you soooooo wrong
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Lalalaland34498 Posts
From personal experience, the more money you have, the more money you need to make even more money.
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Remember, with great money comes great responsibility money.
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Here's the comment from market Discussion thread; https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23253&p=2
"ADDENDUM:
<100 million ISK: New players, or lazy players who hate to "grind". Compulsive PvPers/pirates who don't have a carebearing alt to fund their addiction. They fly "pay-check to pay-check".
100 million - 1 billion ISK: The rank-and-file of 0.0 alliances or a carebear who has only been playing for a few months. Generally has an emergency level 4 mission running battleship in empire that they can always fall back on. Alternates between carebearing and PvP.
1 billion - 100 billion ISK: Veteran carebears, casual traders/industrialist, market aware PvPer. Veteran carebears in this category are stuck here. They are risk averse and compulsive savers. Because they generally run missions, they will probably never cross the 100 billion ISK barrier. Casual traders/industrialists stay in this category simply because they do not want to work hard. Successful traders/industrialists will inevitably pass this category.
100 billion - 1 trillion ISK: Traders, industrial tycoons( and small alliance leaders?). Players in this category didn't earn this much money on their own merit. Instead they profit off of the laziness and foolishness of others. Traders and industrial tycoons in this category have "done their homework". However, only the most successful traders and industrialists will surpass this level, as it becomes difficult to efficiently invest this much ISK.
1+ trillion ISK: Veteran trader/industrial tycoons. Players in this category have enjoyed success in their market/industrial activities for many years. Has managed to avoid money to investment scams, and has found market activities which scale well with their income. A few ultra-successful scammers may also be in this category, but most scammers won't be able to maintain this much money unless they are/become market savvy. You also might include large alliances (perhaps their leaders if they are corrupt) in this category thanks to owning many tech moons - though I imagine that a fair bit of moon goo ISK is pumped back into the alliance membership via ship replacement programs."
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Hyrule19186 Posts
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You guys should visit Tasti. There's lots of nice fights to be had there ^_^
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United States43365 Posts
If I'm still playing in a year or two I should easily surpass a tril.
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Lalalaland34498 Posts
Players in this category didn't earn this much money on their own merit. Instead they profit off of the laziness and foolishness of others.
Teehee.
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On November 27 2011 08:17 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +Players in this category didn't earn this much money on their own merit. Instead they profit off of the laziness and foolishness of others. Teehee.
Tbh, this applies to all the traders, as trading only works because people are too lazy to set up their own buyorders.
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On November 27 2011 06:33 Tdelamay wrote:Here's the comment from market Discussion thread; https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23253&p=2"ADDENDUM: <100 million ISK: New players, or lazy players who hate to "grind". Compulsive PvPers/pirates who don't have a carebearing alt to fund their addiction. They fly "pay-check to pay-check". 100 million - 1 billion ISK: The rank-and-file of 0.0 alliances or a carebear who has only been playing for a few months. Generally has an emergency level 4 mission running battleship in empire that they can always fall back on. Alternates between carebearing and PvP. 1 billion - 100 billion ISK: Veteran carebears, casual traders/industrialist, market aware PvPer. Veteran carebears in this category are stuck here. They are risk averse and compulsive savers. Because they generally run missions, they will probably never cross the 100 billion ISK barrier. Casual traders/industrialists stay in this category simply because they do not want to work hard. Successful traders/industrialists will inevitably pass this category. 100 billion - 1 trillion ISK: Traders, industrial tycoons( and small alliance leaders?). Players in this category didn't earn this much money on their own merit. Instead they profit off of the laziness and foolishness of others. Traders and industrial tycoons in this category have "done their homework". However, only the most successful traders and industrialists will surpass this level, as it becomes difficult to efficiently invest this much ISK. 1+ trillion ISK: Veteran trader/industrial tycoons. Players in this category have enjoyed success in their market/industrial activities for many years. Has managed to avoid money to investment scams, and has found market activities which scale well with their income. A few ultra-successful scammers may also be in this category, but most scammers won't be able to maintain this much money unless they are/become market savvy. You also might include large alliances (perhaps their leaders if they are corrupt) in this category thanks to owning many tech moons - though I imagine that a fair bit of moon goo ISK is pumped back into the alliance membership via ship replacement programs."
Unless you fly pimp ships every single day (and lose them) or want to fly super caps, 1-100 billion is enough. Grinding more is just to feed the ego/need to own more isk than you'll feasibly need.
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