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RoK Ot7Er
Profile Joined June 2010
United States219 Posts
October 25 2011 15:19 GMT
#16741
http://pastebin.com/0Uj5JPTf

If you go to that link it has all of the raw data include slot layouts, pg/cpu etc.

Looks like they all have 8 hardpoints for their respective weapons. Also, looks like the oracle has 1 less mid than the harby
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 25 2011 15:34 GMT
#16742
On October 26 2011 00:19 RoK Ot7Er wrote:
http://pastebin.com/0Uj5JPTf

If you go to that link it has all of the raw data include slot layouts, pg/cpu etc.

Looks like they all have 8 hardpoints for their respective weapons. Also, looks like the oracle has 1 less mid than the harby


Why bother with a tank when you have a 60km+ optimal with pulses and scorch? Stay at the back and kill everything.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 25 2011 15:56 GMT
#16743
So basically a hurricane with a mael's dps? Jesus. Do I continue training for drake or just get BC V right now? Decisions
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44275 Posts
October 25 2011 16:15 GMT
#16744
On October 26 2011 00:56 Firebolt145 wrote:
So basically a hurricane with a mael's dps? Jesus. Do I continue training for drake or just get BC V right now? Decisions

Are you really asking that?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 25 2011 16:19 GMT
#16745
Drake it is. BC V afterwards.

:D
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
October 25 2011 16:23 GMT
#16746
On October 25 2011 23:19 KwarK wrote:
While we could do that Michael the evidence suggests that we don't. We've been using nanopests for a while and haven't started mixing in transport ships.
Regarding torps, with maxed skills and bc V you should still be getting a legitimate range (say 30k) from them without javelins. That's not an unreasonable range for a caldari bc to sit at. The speed of the incoming ship is the primary concern, not the sig, due to mwds. A 90% web would be required to hit at anything like EFT dps but equally the EFT dps would be through the roof. We'll need to test it obviously but I can see it having some utility with a 90% web boat (by comparison a scram only slows about 80% and turns off the sig bloat, 90% webs are some of the sickest stupidest things in eve) and a huginn painting.
i can train to a vigilant.
it's like the talos but with better tracking.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44275 Posts
October 25 2011 16:31 GMT
#16747
On October 26 2011 01:23 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 23:19 KwarK wrote:
While we could do that Michael the evidence suggests that we don't. We've been using nanopests for a while and haven't started mixing in transport ships.
Regarding torps, with maxed skills and bc V you should still be getting a legitimate range (say 30k) from them without javelins. That's not an unreasonable range for a caldari bc to sit at. The speed of the incoming ship is the primary concern, not the sig, due to mwds. A 90% web would be required to hit at anything like EFT dps but equally the EFT dps would be through the roof. We'll need to test it obviously but I can see it having some utility with a 90% web boat (by comparison a scram only slows about 80% and turns off the sig bloat, 90% webs are some of the sickest stupidest things in eve) and a huginn painting.
i can train to a vigilant.
it's like the talos but with better tracking.

Not got the tank. The webboat would be a dedicated all it does it web boat.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Cwedhrin
Profile Joined July 2009
United States30 Posts
October 25 2011 17:34 GMT
#16748
http://pastebin.com/TkY3rY6q
Here's the full copy- I suspect you guys might like the T2 links. 2->2.5% bonuses, and 3->3.5%. Should make Tornano gangs that much more fun.
There are quite a few t2 modules in there, and a few changes to the old ones, as well as normal ship changes. The one that sticks out the most is the dramiel getting a nerfbat to the face.
Let the winds of war bring snow | Sovereign Meari
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19252 Posts
October 25 2011 17:49 GMT
#16749
On October 26 2011 01:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
Drake it is. BC V afterwards.

:D
Half of Drake is BC5 -.-
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
October 25 2011 18:10 GMT
#16750
On October 26 2011 02:34 Cwedhrin wrote:
http://pastebin.com/TkY3rY6q
Here's the full copy- I suspect you guys might like the T2 links. 2->2.5% bonuses, and 3->3.5%. Should make Tornano gangs that much more fun.
There are quite a few t2 modules in there, and a few changes to the old ones, as well as normal ship changes. The one that sticks out the most is the dramiel getting a nerfbat to the face.
just skimmed through it a bit. dramiel nerf seems reasonable (though maybe not enough). dreadnoughts didn't get a single buff to replace their drones. T2 links seem ridiculous. can't wait to see what Rooks and Kings will be able to do with T2 triage.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
October 25 2011 18:17 GMT
#16751
Did you guys really fly 2 drakes and a billion isk loki into a maelstrom and all die?

Nice.
Byzantium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
October 25 2011 18:24 GMT
#16752
On October 25 2011 21:59 KwarK wrote:
Looking at those I see no reason to fly anything other than the tornado and oracle ever. The exception is the gallente one which will be useful to have one of in the fleet because a 90% web has a far greater reduction in speed than a scram, even with mwd still on, and leaves them sig blown and immobile. In fact, the caldari one would be viable if a web hit the target from the gal.


There's one huge reason to bring tier 2 BCs which is drones/general anti-frig support. Given the current specs a pure Tornado/Oracle fleet has no drones whatsoever, so a few 'ceptors leave you totally screwed. Even if you bring a few Talos, you're still talking only a single flight of light drones per Talos.

MSL 2052
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19252 Posts
October 25 2011 18:29 GMT
#16753
On October 26 2011 03:17 JJoNeEightY wrote:
Did you guys really fly 2 drakes and a billion isk loki into a maelstrom and all die?

Nice.

he had a fucking heavy neut
who does that?

I would have been fine if he hadn't had the heavy neut
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
October 25 2011 18:34 GMT
#16754
The drakes that died 3 minutes earlier didn't notice that he alpahed their cap?

Poor Karl
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
October 25 2011 18:34 GMT
#16755
On October 26 2011 03:24 Byzantium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 21:59 KwarK wrote:
Looking at those I see no reason to fly anything other than the tornado and oracle ever. The exception is the gallente one which will be useful to have one of in the fleet because a 90% web has a far greater reduction in speed than a scram, even with mwd still on, and leaves them sig blown and immobile. In fact, the caldari one would be viable if a web hit the target from the gal.


There's one huge reason to bring tier 2 BCs which is drones/general anti-frig support. Given the current specs a pure Tornado/Oracle fleet has no drones whatsoever, so a few 'ceptors leave you totally screwed. Even if you bring a few Talos, you're still talking only a single flight of light drones per Talos.



Put new guys in arbitrators!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 25 2011 18:38 GMT
#16756
That maelstrom was so obviously a mega tanked maelstrom and you guys decided to brawl it down? :/
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19252 Posts
October 25 2011 18:45 GMT
#16757
On October 26 2011 03:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
That maelstrom was so obviously a mega tanked maelstrom and you guys decided to brawl it down? :/

Either links or faction point. Was almost 40k away when I died
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
October 25 2011 19:45 GMT
#16758
On October 26 2011 00:34 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 00:19 RoK Ot7Er wrote:
http://pastebin.com/0Uj5JPTf

If you go to that link it has all of the raw data include slot layouts, pg/cpu etc.

Looks like they all have 8 hardpoints for their respective weapons. Also, looks like the oracle has 1 less mid than the harby


Why bother with a tank when you have a 60km+ optimal with pulses and scorch? Stay at the back and kill everything.

With a double tracking enhancer setup, the range is 80+16 km.

With that pastebin data, the Oracle has 3 mids. Not very promising for nano fleet use. Unless you just want to fit an LSE/Invuln/MWD and forget about the point because LOL GLASS CANNON.

Am sad.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
October 25 2011 19:46 GMT
#16759
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10884237

Why
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
October 25 2011 20:06 GMT
#16760
On October 26 2011 02:34 Cwedhrin wrote:
http://pastebin.com/TkY3rY6q
Here's the full copy- I suspect you guys might like the T2 links. 2->2.5% bonuses, and 3->3.5%. Should make Tornano gangs that much more fun.
There are quite a few t2 modules in there, and a few changes to the old ones, as well as normal ship changes. The one that sticks out the most is the dramiel getting a nerfbat to the face.


Tracking hit for T2 gleam crystals -> tracking buff for T2 gleam crystals. I actually have a reason to train beam spec now.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
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