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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
October 26 2011 05:21 GMT
#16781
Dual LSE zealot ftw! I'm sure we can make due with 3 mids body, if not ill just have to fly untanked absolutions!

But honestly, the most important factor determining whether I will fly them.

+ Show Spoiler +
HOW IT LOOKS WHAT THE FUCK ELSE?
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
October 26 2011 05:34 GMT
#16782
On October 25 2011 06:36 Mandini wrote:
I'm going to release a few details about the upcoming tournaments.
We will be holding a Starcraft 2 tournament, as well as a Brood War tournament.
These tournaments will be open to any TL member.

The prizes that I hope to have are 2 plex for 1st, 1 plex for 2nd, 200m for third for both tournaments.
This totals 2.8 bil (~$140) in prizes. The only problem with these prize pools is that FB and I do not have that much money to just throw around. Therefore I must ask for donations from both the hatchery and any other TL member that plays EVE.

There is currently 1.6 bil in the pool.
Thank you to VoV, Jed, Body, Pollux, Not Orious, Mythics, Gudrun, and Adolith (I dont know your TL names :|) for their donations.

I am hoping that these tournaments will attract attention from the members of TL who only read the sc2 and bw sections, and hopefully get more people playing this game we play (or at least get them to realize there is more to teamliquid than purely starcraft (even though it is the game that brings us all together)).

I realize that there is a high degree of trust involved when making any sort of donation in EVE. I would say to give it to kwark, and have him forward it to me, but chances are that he will just keep it for himself :s. Because of that, all the credibility I can give you is my membership in TL and my post history, as well as my actions in the running of the previous tournament. Firebolt is also with me in this, so I guess I can add his post count to the credibility of this as well :D

If you would like to donate, the money can be sent to Sedoris Selendis or the corp Every Day Low Prices, and PM me or evemail me to let me know that you have donated. All the money donated will be kept in a separate wallet division.

More details about the tournament will be released soon.

I'm going to post this again for all the lazy people who cba to look back a few pages. There has been some great support so far, and I thank everyone for donating. 1.6b out of the 2.8b goal has been reached, but we still need more. FB and I may put more into the pool, but we can't cover the whole 1.2b.
Also, I better not see Kwark winning the BW tournament, get practicing.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
October 26 2011 06:38 GMT
#16783
When do you plan to have this tournament?
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
October 26 2011 06:59 GMT
#16784
On October 26 2011 15:38 pahndah wrote:
When do you plan to have this tournament?

Around the time of an announcement that will be made by The Hatchery, also I have had a request to not have it for another 10 days. I will start working on the posts I need to make in the sc2 and bw tourney sections though, as it looks like we will indeed have the isk to make this happen. I also should probably get some tips from someone who actually has experience running tournaments as well, because I don't want this to massively fail.
s0Li
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
October 26 2011 19:03 GMT
#16785
On October 26 2011 14:34 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 06:36 Mandini wrote:
I'm going to release a few details about the upcoming tournaments.
We will be holding a Starcraft 2 tournament, as well as a Brood War tournament.
These tournaments will be open to any TL member.

The prizes that I hope to have are 2 plex for 1st, 1 plex for 2nd, 200m for third for both tournaments.
This totals 2.8 bil (~$140) in prizes. The only problem with these prize pools is that FB and I do not have that much money to just throw around. Therefore I must ask for donations from both the hatchery and any other TL member that plays EVE.

There is currently 1.6 bil in the pool.
Thank you to VoV, Jed, Body, Pollux, Not Orious, Mythics, Gudrun, and Adolith (I dont know your TL names :|) for their donations.

I am hoping that these tournaments will attract attention from the members of TL who only read the sc2 and bw sections, and hopefully get more people playing this game we play (or at least get them to realize there is more to teamliquid than purely starcraft (even though it is the game that brings us all together)).

I realize that there is a high degree of trust involved when making any sort of donation in EVE. I would say to give it to kwark, and have him forward it to me, but chances are that he will just keep it for himself :s. Because of that, all the credibility I can give you is my membership in TL and my post history, as well as my actions in the running of the previous tournament. Firebolt is also with me in this, so I guess I can add his post count to the credibility of this as well :D

If you would like to donate, the money can be sent to Sedoris Selendis or the corp Every Day Low Prices, and PM me or evemail me to let me know that you have donated. All the money donated will be kept in a separate wallet division.

More details about the tournament will be released soon.

I'm going to post this again for all the lazy people who cba to look back a few pages. There has been some great support so far, and I thank everyone for donating. 1.6b out of the 2.8b goal has been reached, but we still need more. FB and I may put more into the pool, but we can't cover the whole 1.2b.
Also, I better not see Kwark winning the BW tournament, get practicing.



I am Jed, I've got a bil some how (first ever....sad I know) I'll shoot over some more iskies when I get home tonight
I don't wanna hear excuses, I wanna hear solutions...
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
October 26 2011 19:23 GMT
#16786
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10888782

I must hear the story behind this.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
October 26 2011 19:26 GMT
#16787
The story ends with him being booted out of corp.
TobZero
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany493 Posts
October 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#16788
i explained yesterday explicid how can flipping works and what he does wrong. how does he die again in highsec?
beeing new ok, doing mistakes ok, but doing the same mistake one day after another when beeing told the day before how mechanics work in highsec.

dont know if troll or serious ...
-= we are the swarm =-
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
October 26 2011 19:40 GMT
#16789
On October 27 2011 04:23 Mandini wrote:
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10888782

I must hear the story behind this.



I was jetcan mining in my osprey and got canflipped. He left a few seconds later and I went a little bit later to try and grab the stuff back. I ended up getting ganked and losing my ship.

The people in the corp chat precedded to call me a idoit and a retard. and then contiuned to belittle me until I just stopped responding and they booted me. Nobody explained anything to me about the game and basically told me to make a cannon fodder ship and run around dying in pvp battles. Not my cup of tea. So I decided to do something more passive, nobody explained rather more simple mechanics to me and decided instead of trying to help me learn through my mistakes they decided to bash me and put me down.

In the one hour I was talking to other miners and others players I learned more about the game then I did in 4-5 days with the people in the hatchery.

Funny thing is that I was being screwed over by a member of the corp with my minerals by almost %10. cutting my profits by huge amounts. Plus what they wanted me to fly was pretty much cannon fodder for the rest of the fleet on pvp roams.

I didn't feel like being cannon fodder and liked making the money I was making (which is more than pvp in higher levels, I've been made aware of this recently). so they didn't like what I was doing and kicked me.

The funny thing is I thought I was doing well meanwhile I was being screwed over a lot. losing about 3mil in isk in the 3 days I started. funny thing is I got a better offer as soon as I metioned what I was getting. They had explained I was getting %20 under regional average when I could be getting a lot more.

basically now I can make about 10mil a day when afk and not have to worry about being called a retard all the time/
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 20:17:57
October 26 2011 19:49 GMT
#16790
On October 27 2011 04:40 masterbreti wrote:
In the one hour I was talking to other miners and others players I learned more about the game then I did in 4-5 days with the people in the hatchery.


In one hour of talking to retards I learned more about how if a coin has fallen on heads a few times then I should bet my life on tails than I ever did in the 4-5 days I talked with geniuses.

On October 27 2011 04:40 masterbreti wrote:
basically now I can make about 10mil a day when afk and not have to worry about being called a retard all the time/

so cute
He genuinely believes that statement is actually making a point and not just adding to his humiliation. 10m a day you say!??!?


Also ask the other new guy (3 days younger than you) about cannon fodder. We took him out on his first roam today at just two days old and he scored 190m in kills in exchange for his 500k rifter. No matter what ship you fly, no matter how many skillpoints you get, you will always be retarded, you will always be cannon fodder. On the other hand the brand new rifter in a Hatchery gang is not cannon fodder, he is the anchor that makes the 20k between a battleship and the safety of a gate the longest 20k he'll ever try and cross.

It's the same problem you've always had, you simply refuse to believe that you literally know fuck all about the game and that you're completely retarded. No matter how many people come up to you and say "look, I'm not trying to be a dick, honestly, you need to start thinking and listening to what people are telling you to do because if you try thinking for yourself it doesn't go so well". You're just not getting it. It's not that everyone hates you and wants to belittle you by calling you stupid. It's that you are stupid. When you were can flipped a message popped up saying "if you take the ore from this can the guy can shoot you, is this something you want, y/n?" and you picked yes after everyone told you to pick no. Does that sound like something someone not retarded would do? Before I kicked you from corp I asked you to try and explain your decision making, to give me some sign, any sign at all, that there was an actual working mind there. I stated that if you didn't give me some hope that you could be salvaged I'd kick you. You didn't reply and I kicked you and then you were confused about why.



Honestly, I think the best course for you now is spending several hours with a hot stove. Reach out, touch the stove and then recoil in pain as you burn your hand. Then do it again. Keep doing it over and over until your mind makes the connection between the action and the result. Then try and apply that lesson to other areas of your life.
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TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
October 26 2011 19:49 GMT
#16791
Sir you do realize the rifter is not cannon fodder she a is a ship of honor and great majesty.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
October 26 2011 19:49 GMT
#16792
This looks like a promising game but I'm afraid of getting addicted
Life's good :D
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19144 Posts
October 26 2011 19:57 GMT
#16793
What you've been made aware of is complete bullshit. The entire corp spent several months earning money by PvP. I also gave you 10m (effectively you earned 10m in 0 seconds) and someone gave you a storyline booster (5m mod) as a gift and you wasted it by getting can flipped, which people DID explain after you got yourself killed yesterday. Your didn't lose money, you made money, WHILE getting scammed by some random guy. Also the box that says "if you do this he'll be able to violence you" had a button which said "no thanks I don't want to be violenced" and you clicked the one that said "yes please".

Nobody in corp has anything to do with mining or your ore. Odds are you were getting scammed by someone who was in the pub channel. We proceeded* to ask you what happened and when you were like "he wasn't there and then i died or something also he warped off" after having explained to you yesterday how to not get can flipped of course we are a little pissed off at you.

Additionally, your logic of being cannon fodder is dumb. Def joined corp and became a hero Rifter almost instantly, constantly saving people and living. You actually earn money every time you die in a Rifter and you don't have to stare at rocks all day to do it.

Then, when Kwark tried to get an explanation from you you just stopped talking. If you had used any form of logic and RESPONDED you wouldn't have been kicked. Also I told you you would probably get kicked yesterday.

And your logic of "kwark was mean so everyone in the TL corp is an asshole" is dumb.

Regardless, miners are stupid and think the minerals they mine are free and that they actually make really good money (15m an hour) whereas if you had stuck with us for more than 5 days you would have been making 100m an hour easily without staring at rocks all day.

AND GOING BACK TO THE CANNON FODDER PART

The fucking OP says you'll fly around in Rifters getting shot. We explained that since you are a miner you probably don't give a shit about flying with us and since you are a miner we hate you and gank your kind but you wanted to join us anyway and after we tried to help you and gave you money you actively picked the worst possible choices in every circumstance and pissed everyone off.

Fuck you if you think you're entitled to anything and deserve special treatment. In Hatchery: when you fuck up, you're called on it. And you're reminded of it all the time. When you finally understand how you fucked up you'll stop fucking up and then you'll be a better player.

You, however, just threw a hissy fit and bitched and moaned EVERY TIME WE TRIED TO HELP.

Fuck you. Go away.
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Viceorvirtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States273 Posts
October 26 2011 20:07 GMT
#16794
If I were to bother going back through my logs I could bring up atleast one insstance where myself and I believe 2 other people told you not to jetcan mine. I also believe you were advised to anchor a secure container and use that instead, as it cannot be flipped. You also did not bother reading up on the game mechanics or asking more about how can flipping works, so Im taking points away for lack of initiave.

Secondly the rifter is not exactly cannon fodder. If people were telling you to go out and look for fights in it then I am going to assume they were advising an armor rifter with a 200mm plate and small rep, which is an extreamly solid pvp frigate in a solo situation, even with t1 mods. In a fleet situation, rifters are used as a way to control enemy movement and yes that does end up in them being cannon fodder but it also can be the only way to actually immobilize enemy ships in some instances.

You really shouldve compared jita prices and not the prices of the station you were at. I doubt the person buying the minerals off you was bothering to cross reference numbers at all so the blame lies with them and not you since they should know better.

10 mil a day inst even impressive as afk work because if you spend 5 minutes salvaging and looting someones lvl 4 mission you can easily make anywhere from twice to 5 times that amount if you get lucky on meta 3/4 drops.

Being called a retard isnt meant as an insult, it is meant to point out what you are doing is detrimental to you (in this case jetcan mining and getting can flipped) and you should change your actions to prevent this thing from occuring (hence the suggestions to anchor a secure container which prevents you from being can flipped).

For example tofu is being called a retard for fitting a loki like he did and losing it to the mael, which he shouldnt have engaged anyway since he and the 2 drakes didnt have anywhere near enough firepower to break the maels tank. He really should have known better but he decided to do it anyway, thus he was called a retard.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
October 26 2011 20:15 GMT
#16795
On October 27 2011 04:57 tofucake wrote:
And your logic of "kwark was mean so everyone in the TL corp is an asshole" is dumb.

On October 27 2011 04:57 tofucake wrote:
Fuck you. Go away.

I do not have .gifs to describe the giddiness I am feeling.

Well I do but I'll just get warned again.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
TobZero
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 20:31:00
October 26 2011 20:24 GMT
#16796
On October 27 2011 04:40 masterbreti wrote:
.....
So I decided to do something more passive, nobody explained rather more simple mechanics to me and decided instead of trying to help me learn through my mistakes they decided to bash me and put me down.



are u fucking kidding me?
i was friendly and everythign to u up to now all the time. but you are REALLY retarded.... sorry to say that.
here is what i told you yesterday:
[image loading]

so REALLY?
NO ONE TOLD YOU?

things like that make me really angry ....


OH I SAW MORE ....
On October 27 2011 04:40 masterbreti wrote:
Funny thing is that I was being screwed over by a member of the corp with my minerals by almost %10. cutting my profits by huge amounts.


????? the guys u are talking are so stupid i cant even grasp how often they have been falling on their head.
i have perfect refining skills. which take FORVER to train
you have NO REFINING SKILLS. so i payed you the price you could refine the shit + 15%.
those guys are probably thinking that the minerals they mine are free considering time and skills invested.
those kinda player are the most laughed at in eve. they are stupid and have a hard time breathing on their own. once they accomplish the insane task of closing their mouth while breathing they suffocate

god im so angry

and i took my time to talk to you and calculate the fucking numers and even move your shity minerals around and everything which was mostly wasted time for me.

i hope you hide really well in eve cause i will make it my main goal in eve to make your experience an nightmare.
-= we are the swarm =-
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19144 Posts
October 26 2011 20:30 GMT
#16797
Also, 4 or 5 days my ass
The Hatchery from 2011.10.24 19:15 to 2011.10.26 15:56
That's almost 48 hours. Almost.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
October 26 2011 20:31 GMT
#16798
I was auctally refering to the first incident when I was first canflipped. the incident that happend this morning was my mistake and I was unaware ships could cloak. I didn't blame anyone for that.
TobZero
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany493 Posts
October 26 2011 20:31 GMT
#16799
On October 27 2011 05:31 masterbreti wrote:
I was auctally refering to the first incident when I was first canflipped. the incident that happend this morning was my mistake and I was unaware ships could cloak. I didn't blame anyone for that.


i told you very direct DONT TAKE FROM YELLOW CANS

how is that so hard to understand?
-= we are the swarm =-
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19144 Posts
October 26 2011 20:36 GMT
#16800
Here's the entire series of events from when you discovered your stuff was missing to when you died:

[ 2011.10.25 17:50:01 ] Radrel Kado > dammit to hell. somone took 1mil worth of stuff right from under me
[ 2011.10.25 17:50:16 ] Karah Serrigan > well all other linsk get better too :D
[ 2011.10.25 17:50:28 ] Smitony > ya but
[ 2011.10.25 17:50:33 ] Smitony > nano relise more on links
[ 2011.10.25 17:52:42 ] Karah Serrigan > t2 probe launchers and t2 mapc
[ 2011.10.25 17:53:01 ] Karah Serrigan > even t2 tractor beams rofl
[ 2011.10.25 17:53:55 ] Radrel Kado > got dammit my merlin exploded
[ 2011.10.25 17:55:42 ] Radrel Kado > they got 1 mil worth of minerals and got my merlin
[ 2011.10.25 17:55:46 ] Radrel Kado > fuck

You will notice a full 5 minutes where you did not explain anything or ask for help re: stealing from yellow cans and/or shooting red things.
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