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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
August 13 2011 05:33 GMT
#14681
So because of limited activity by the members of PTSC, it's mostly been me and Emdar trolling around Curse and surrounding null-sec. Moving around with such a small "fleet" with no scout, no links, no alts of any kind etc. comes with peculiar difficulties. In null-sec, gate camps are incredibly effective because of the mass presence of bubbles and interceptors/Dramiels. If you've got a Sabre + Dramiel camping a gate, any frigate that jumps through is basically autodead without a fight. If it weren't for actual Falcons, this kind of strongarm camping would be the Falcon of null-sec.

Luckily, at PTSC we usually didn't want that one anyway.

The first thing you notice about Curse when you move here is the massive amount of trolling. The second thing you notice is that most people are fairly competent in stark contrast to Molden Heath, where most people are totally clueless. Not many will engage in fights they wager they can't win, and most will engage in fights only when they think they have a massive advantage.

In addition to "because of Falcon" ( http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10323543) and "do we have enough Dramiels?" ( http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10329502), people are often quite capable with high SP and enough money to make even mediocre ships quite deadly ( http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10336244).

The other difference with flying 2 guys with absolutely no friendly presence is the disparity between our intel and theirs. How can you tell if there's 0, 1, 5, 10, or 20 ( http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10355162) guys on the other side of the gate waiting to smash your face? In Molden Heath, hardly anyone even knows what links do. In Curse, however, it pays to keep in mind the possibility of 25km webs ( http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10358181).

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Giant Mega-blabs

One of the more interesting things we've done is crawl through a null-sec corridor with 200-400 people moving around in it. At one point, I was "stuck" in a system with roughly 100 Abaddons on my outgate - heavily bubbled with inties of course. They actually had a cyno near the gate as well (which was weird, still don't know what it was for). I used the distance on the d-scanner to determine that the cyno was in fact "behind" the gate whereas all the bubbles were "in front" of the gate. I decided I would try to warp to the cyno and burn the distance to the gate (it was about 60-70km I think). It turned out OK in the end because their tackle was all 100km+ from me camping the bubbles, but it was quite scary (for me and my computer) to have 100 Abaddons yellow-boxing me.

Me and Emdar met up shortly after this and headed back through the way that I came - towards the giant mega camp. When we got into system, there were 0 local. I had noted an Erebus before so I figured they must have bridged or something. A few systems down the pipe, we jump in... and literally 400 people are fighting on the gate. We burn out extremely far and warp off to random aligns just to get clear of the massive computer-destroying clusterfuck. We decided the prudent thing to do would be to camp their station.

After a few small targets warped off, an Omen undocked, and we started wailing on it. Unfortunately, they ended up warping a load of tackle on top of it (in addition to it doing tons of damage to our kiting-style frigates).

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Get off Mah Lawn: The Rage of the Inhabitants

So far, we've found 2 groups of people terribly offended at our presence. One is the so-called Pet Pocket.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch#sec

In the lower-right side, there is an isolated pocket past WLAR where a "training" renter corp lives with their mining fleets and their carriers running sanctums. We only successfully trolled them out of their POS shields once, and they ended up taking the life of Baddini, who logged off with aggression in system while probes were out and we had been taunting them about being unable to probe us down quickly or effectively. For most of the pilots on the mail, it was their first and only "combat" kill ( http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10355538) and they were quite ecstatic about the whole thing.

Unfortunately, we haven't caught these guys out in the open yet. Their dedication to warping to their POS when a non-blue enters system is basically unrivaled. We even tried doing their havens etc., but they still wouldn't go for us (although this rather successful camp went for us on the way out http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10358181, http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10358118).

We'll just have to come up with something different for these guys.

-----

However there's another group that's more than willing to undock quite a few things against us. At the bottom left of the Catch region, there is a very rich set of systems leading into Querious. The only entrance is CNC- which is fervently guarded by the owners.

Emdar and I enter local in our pro Slicer-Wolf combo.

+ Show Spoiler [Local] +

Bagarai Predador > so
Bagarai Predador > what ship's everyone flying?
buljager > urmother ships
Kamile Bidon > ur face
Bagarai Predador > BAM
DefMatrix Ultra > ice buuuuurrrrrrrrrrrn
Bad Tast > come to station
Bad Tast > come closer
Bagarai Predador > you come closer
Bad Tast > i asked first
Bagarai Predador > i'm bad mannered
Legasti > you sit inline to the sun? you are noobs aren't ya?
bassie12bf1 > lol running away
buljager > ur not running fast enough!
Bagarai Predador > you obviously need to send something to catch us then?
bassie12bf1 > fly ships that are worth burning out for
Bagarai Predador > I SENSE
Bagarai Predador > BM
Bad Tast > pussies
Bagarai Predador > clearly
Bagarai Predador > it was such a fair fight as well
Bagarai Predador >


They spiked local by +30 or so as soon as we entered the system and undocked numerous bad things from their station like this Zealot who hit us from 150km (rofl), Cynabals, Vagas, Lokis etc. - stuff we weren't interested in.

They had a lone Ishkur and a Retribution with them that we were sorta kinda maybe interested in (considering we would just get blabbed by Cynabals and Vagas). We ended up catching the Retribution on the other side of a gate and blasting it down (holy tank, batman http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10337091) before the inevitable local spike. The chase continued with us trolling a 20-ish man fleet several jumps through.

+ Show Spoiler [Local] +

[ 2011.08.08 13:42:22 ] EVE System > Channel changed to 4NBN-9 Local Channel
[ 2011.08.08 13:43:15 ] Legasti > *sigh* come back when you want a fight
[ 2011.08.08 13:44:18 ] EVE System > Channel changed to X4-WL0 Local Channel
[ 2011.08.08 13:50:21 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Q-U96U Local Channel
[ 2011.08.08 13:52:20 ] EVE System > Channel changed to EX6-AO Local Channel
[ 2011.08.08 13:54:45 ] EVE System > Channel changed to HY-RWO Local Channel
[ 2011.08.08 13:55:38 ] Bagarai Predador > you know we're like
[ 2011.08.08 13:55:39 ] Bagarai Predador > leaving
[ 2011.08.08 13:55:40 ] Bagarai Predador > right?
[ 2011.08.08 13:55:50 ] DefMatrix Ultra > gotta catch the bus
[ 2011.08.08 13:55:53 ] Bagarai Predador > i consider the matter closed
[ 2011.08.08 13:55:55 ] Bagarai Predador > good day.


We plan to go back in nanocruisers and try to kill some of their shit.

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To Troll or To Troll Harder: Doril

Doril is the trolliest of the troll. So many would-be half-fights and extreme meta-counter-blobbing, gate camping, cynopopping, station games etc. goes on in Doril and the Doril diamond ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Curse/Jamunda#kills24) that it will make your head spin. Noob ships abound with over 9000 off-gate safes on every gate. I accidentally decloaked a Falcon once and had them jump another Falcon in to "save" it.

Recently, we haven't gotten much besides extreme blue-balling in Doril apart from yesterday night. After moving back from blobville ( http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10364144), I noticed something odd on d-scan - an Executioner. Now who would ever fly such a ship and for what reason? I had to know so I scanned it down. It was, of course, at an off-gate safe near Sendaya gate (the lowsec entrance into Doril). A pod appeared on d-scan, and the Executioner warped to a bubble to kill it! What in the world...

Anyway, I did what I could to avenge the pod: http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10364208. Turns out it was Trolly McTrollerton - the Thrasher pilot from my previous blueballed tilt-run in Doril ( http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10297948). I was quite amused by this turn of events. But that had to wait.

I had 2 Rifters and a Griffon on scan. If there's one thing that really gets me on tilt when I'm flying solo or small-gang, it's ECM. I had to get this guy somehow. It turned out that one Rifter and the Griffon were together with Trolly McTrollerton in a Taranis. Many off-gate safes were warped to and many trolly half-would-be-maybe fights were started and stopped. Most of the time what happened was I would warp to an off-gate safe and burn towards one of the targets. I either wouldn't get there or the other 2 would land right after or before I got point.

One time, I almost got the Griffon. I had one-shotted his shields + some armor and was confident he was dead, when suddenly jammed -____-.

Then I put on my troll hat.

Instead of burning at them, I burned away from them, trolling the Taranis to burn me down instead of the other way around - and Emdar would join me in system and jump into the fray. The following is what resulted:



1) A ranis doesn't do much damage at 8km.
2) In order to kill things, they must be pointed.

I was paying so much attention to the Griffin (and talking about him on comms) that I completely derped holding the point on the Rifter and actually just hit orbit and ignored him altogether, waiting for my moment to strike the Griffon (yes, I was slightly on tilt from being jammed).
Byzantium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
August 13 2011 05:45 GMT
#14682
Man, I can't wait to add my absolutely useless perfect navs fleet fit rifter to this hilarity. Only 400d till I fly my all Vs mach in support of you guys!

I know it's been 400d in that skill plan for 2 months now but I keep thinking of another skill here or there. At some point this is going to be absurd, I'll be at like 80m skill points but unwilling to undock an actual combat ship for lack of Amarr Drone Spec V.

Also: 200% speed and catchy music, sir! Learn from Friggank. From my extensive experience listening to pvp videos while trying to work, Nightwish or Europop are good starter choices.
MSL 2052
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
August 13 2011 05:53 GMT
#14683
On August 13 2011 14:45 Byzantium wrote:
Man, I can't wait to add my absolutely useless perfect navs fleet fit rifter to this hilarity. Only 400d till I fly my all Vs mach in support of you guys!

I know it's been 400d in that skill plan for 2 months now but I keep thinking of another skill here or there. At some point this is going to be absurd, I'll be at like 80m skill points but unwilling to undock an actual combat ship for lack of Amarr Drone Spec V.

Also: 200% speed and catchy music, sir! Learn from Friggank. From my extensive experience listening to pvp videos while trying to work, Nightwish or Europop are good starter choices.


Emdar just learned me today on how to video. Emdar best teacher.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
August 13 2011 06:17 GMT
#14684
On August 13 2011 11:57 Pufftrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 11:43 pahndah wrote:
On August 13 2011 10:55 Arhkangel wrote:
So I heard Kwark pulled the plug on his ponzi scheme and walked away with 1 trillion ISK. Thumbs-up!


That would make me a sad Pahndah whenever my current round of bitter vet syndrome ends.


Why would anyone get sad by someone else on Teamliquid profiting greatly , from anything. I mean bittervet and all whatever, but why can't people just be happy when others do well. It's like I sense serious hate when a 2b contract or something is found... I think its lame as shit people aren't always happy for each other! Maybe I am just a happy person ;o


Can you give me 10 bil. Would make me happy. I think its lame that rich people don't share the wealth like me . Pretty poor atm ><
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 13 2011 06:25 GMT
#14685
How can you be poor, you are rich! I will offer, 12 hugs, no more no less.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
August 13 2011 06:33 GMT
#14686
How can you be so stingy! It would seem I have been led astray by your alluded promise of helping out a fellow TLer.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 13 2011 06:39 GMT
#14687
Lol, I didn't say anything about donations or helping out TL guys. I am saying, when someone you have some sort of tie with, wins the lotto for example, even though they would never share, why be bitter. I just feel its a sad life when people get upset when someone succeeds, if someone on TL won the eve lotto for 1 tril why would anyone be mad about that.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
August 13 2011 06:46 GMT
#14688
Now I'm confused. You've lost me. I think you may have mistaken one of my previous posts somehow.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 06:54:43
August 13 2011 06:53 GMT
#14689
The one I quoted? You said you'd be sad if kwark walked away with 1 trillion isk from a ponzi scheme, were you just being facetious? The thing about people being bitter wasn't only directed at you too.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 07:10:36
August 13 2011 07:07 GMT
#14690
I don't believe Kwark is one of the 2 people that pulled off the actual ponzi scheme that occured. I was making a jest at lending Kwark some uncollateral isk awhile back under the same pretense of 5% interest (monthly),. As for being a bitter vet, that just means a eve player that's burnt out of eve. i don't think the definition involves being bitter at anything.

I think I can see where you misunderstood my statement though. I think I'm entitled to have the option to feel sad if someone walked away with my isk at my expense
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 07:45:07
August 13 2011 07:42 GMT
#14691
PAHNDAH IS JUST MISUNDERSTOOD

EVERYONE FEEL SORRY FOR HIM

ps wtf is this shield tanked sfi
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pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
August 13 2011 07:44 GMT
#14692
Thank You Firebolt. Your words of encouragement warms my heart.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 13 2011 08:19 GMT
#14693
From EVEO forums, a little gem:

Slimy Worm joined our corp, Ace Adventure Corp and killed our freighter. He asked for 200 mil in ransom and got it but killed it anyway. Luckily it wasnt carrying anything really valuable, only a few ships. He did it right after he joined, he wasnt even in the corp for an hour.

We accidentally gave him roles when he joined so we couldnt kick him. After 24 hours he wouldnt dock untill we gave him a medal.

Killmail: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13822880
Moderator
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 13 2011 08:41 GMT
#14694
On August 13 2011 17:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
From EVEO forums, a little gem:

Show nested quote +
Slimy Worm joined our corp, Ace Adventure Corp and killed our freighter. He asked for 200 mil in ransom and got it but killed it anyway. Luckily it wasnt carrying anything really valuable, only a few ships. He did it right after he joined, he wasnt even in the corp for an hour.

We accidentally gave him roles when he joined so we couldnt kick him. After 24 hours he wouldnt dock untill we gave him a medal.

Killmail: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13822880


Oh god that's hilarious XD
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 13:41:48
August 13 2011 13:41 GMT
#14695
I'm pretty sure at some time or other I've read almost all of this thread, and I cant believe I haven't seen this linked before:
**NSFW**may cause physical pain**
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
August 13 2011 14:32 GMT
#14696
On August 13 2011 22:41 hagon wrote:
I'm pretty sure at some time or other I've read almost all of this thread, and I cant believe I haven't seen this linked before:
**NSFW**may cause physical pain**
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG_9Itz7z7I
[image loading]


Jesus. She sounds nasty. Not in a good way.
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
August 13 2011 15:39 GMT
#14697
On August 13 2011 16:42 Firebolt145 wrote:

ps wtf is this shield tanked sfi


http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10323543

I assume you mean that. It's a nanocruiser that's supposed to be somewhat like a "cheap" vaga. It's got a significant shield tank and is quite fast and fun to fly. Going around in an armor SFI in this area of nullsec is basically waiting to get over-escalated.

http://ptsc.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8634331, for reference.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44256 Posts
August 13 2011 19:53 GMT
#14698
Roam starts, tofu tells everyone there is nanite in our system (X70) and he'll buy and give people whatever they need. Aeth says nothing. First fight (7v30) Aeth almost burns out on an unpointed hurricane without orders. Hurricane lives. After fight he scrounges around for nanite and takes a load of mine. When I ask for whatever wasn't consumed back he refuses.
Second fight we gank a 2b mach (hatchery droprates). Nobody else is significantly burned because we dropped it in seconds and didn't need heat. Aeth begs for more nanite. I drop 300 in a jet can in two stacks, 50 and 250, for Aeth and our cloaky loki which we're filling with loot. The loki finds a stack of 50 left. I demand to know wtf happened to the rest and Aeth puts 100 back in the can, keeping the rest.
Third fight, Aeth immediately burns out guns while in no danger.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 13 2011 20:15 GMT
#14699
We went into IRC space to gank a few carebears and wait for their counterfleet to fight them. By the time they formed their fleet of 20 drakes arazu loki we effectively lost our drake and huginn and could no longer fight them :<
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
August 13 2011 20:34 GMT
#14700
Successful roam into hostile territory. Many ships killed, many laughs had. Carriers were dropped on us. Story of the day? AETH USED ALL MAH NANITES.
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