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On April 25 2011 03:30 Snackbar wrote:
EVE is about long-term, not short term. I could have listed caps there aswell, but as I don't give a flying fuck about them, I didn't. Hell, I can't even fly widows myself, but if you like the scorpion, the widow is the natural next step.
It is, but when the whole aim of the hatchery is getting new people into the game, and trying to keep them sticking around.. Short-Term excitement has to take precedent over long-term plans. I know personally, If i'd have set myself a plan for (Total Guess - 200 Days) before i'd be in a ship thats really awesome, I'd have quit before even starting.
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On April 25 2011 03:34 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 03:32 Snackbar wrote:
It wasn't FB, FB was nice, it was Kwark.
Sure, you can't throw them into Domi's with RR (Well, technically, you can) but what you can do, is throw them into Thoraxes. I said you didn't understand us because your post was based upon a post that doesn't accurately describe or reflect us. Sorry if that seems bitchy. Hopefully you'll still want to contribute and we can become friends and fly together.
I get the impression his skin isn't thick enough for your sense of humor, honestly. That's like the number one survival skill in the Hatch in my tiny experience.
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
On April 25 2011 03:30 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 03:23 Snackbar wrote:
^^^
All I was trying to do was help, so if you are going to be a bitch about it, fine.
On TL for SC mainly, been playing EVE On and off for a few years. I saw the thread in the side bar and I had to take a peek. Mind you, my post is only my 0.2 ISK What? I doubt FB posted anything 'bitchy' as he's generally the most mannered person on forums i've ever seen. Kwark just said that it barely relates to us anymore.. and that's classed as bitchy?
Awww I'm blushing
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On April 25 2011 03:38 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 03:30 Valenius wrote:On April 25 2011 03:23 Snackbar wrote:
^^^
All I was trying to do was help, so if you are going to be a bitch about it, fine.
On TL for SC mainly, been playing EVE On and off for a few years. I saw the thread in the side bar and I had to take a peek. Mind you, my post is only my 0.2 ISK What? I doubt FB posted anything 'bitchy' as he's generally the most mannered person on forums i've ever seen. Kwark just said that it barely relates to us anymore.. and that's classed as bitchy? Awww I'm blushing
I want to punch you right now.
Oh wait, That's CrunCher
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
On April 25 2011 03:39 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 03:38 Firebolt145 wrote:On April 25 2011 03:30 Valenius wrote:On April 25 2011 03:23 Snackbar wrote:
^^^
All I was trying to do was help, so if you are going to be a bitch about it, fine.
On TL for SC mainly, been playing EVE On and off for a few years. I saw the thread in the side bar and I had to take a peek. Mind you, my post is only my 0.2 ISK What? I doubt FB posted anything 'bitchy' as he's generally the most mannered person on forums i've ever seen. Kwark just said that it barely relates to us anymore.. and that's classed as bitchy? Awww I'm blushing I want to punch you right now. Oh wait, That's CrunCher
I'm holding back from posting on the tournament thread because I'll probably get banned again after that first game hahaha :<
edit: + Show Spoiler +before i get banned again lemme just say cruncher played VERY VERY VERY WELL in that second game and I LOVE CRUNCHER
(please don't ban me)
edit2: should probably spoiler that
edit3: oh wtf this was my 1100 post, what a waste
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On April 25 2011 03:32 Snackbar wrote:
It wasn't FB, FB was nice, it was Kwark.
Sure, you can't throw them into Domi's with RR (Well, technically, you can) but what you can do, is throw them into Thoraxes.
Or you can actually throw them into a useful ship.
Im not a gallente hater, and I know blasters CAN get out a lot of dps, but really theyre quite subpar if you compare them to most other ships (or to ships flown by idiots that dont know you shouldnt stay on 0 of a blaster boat)
(also I lold at training scorpion and widow, ur funneh, caldari bs very useful skill toi have, I guess you also love falcunz.)
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Snack, a lot of what Kwark has hatchery doing is shield tanked nano tactics, with higher SP members flying BCs and lower SP members flying rifters and blackbirds. Honestly, they get more from this approach than anything you could do with slower, larger ships. The larger ships take more SP, and thus every group in the area that they operate in are generally going to steam roll them if they try RR BS.
So if you have any experience doing nano stuff, maybe give you 0.02 cents about that.
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Netherlands19141 Posts
It's that you're taken Sard or I would sex u up <3.
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United States44417 Posts
On April 25 2011 06:06 Sard Caid wrote:
Snack, a lot of what Kwark has hatchery doing is shield tanked nano tactics, with higher SP members flying BCs and lower SP members flying rifters and blackbirds. Honestly, they get more from this approach than anything you could do with slower, larger ships. The larger ships take more SP, and thus every group in the area that they operate in are generally going to steam roll them if they try RR BS.
So if you have any experience doing nano stuff, maybe give you 0.02 cents about that.
Don't be so bitchy. He's only trying to help.
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On April 25 2011 03:50 TurpinOS wrote:
Im not a gallente hater, and I know blasters CAN get out a lot of dps, but really theyre quite subpar if you compare them to most other ships (or to ships flown by idiots that dont know you shouldnt stay on 0 of a blaster boat)
(also I lold at training scorpion and widow, ur funneh, caldari bs very useful skill toi have, I guess you also love falcunz.)
Wololo, ever heard about beagles? And yeah, Caldari bs is a very useful skill toi have.
Beagles usually don't have a range of 0, but I don't know, I'm no expert! I've just been flying around with DNA alot. But yeah. Caldari battleships are rape, if you actually know how to use them properly, which not a lot of people do.
But the thing is, if you are jumped by a Thorax, it WILL (most likely) MWD towards you at about 1.6k and then point/web you, so you don't really have much of a choice unless you are in something smaller. And have a scram/web yourself.
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Oh, eagles are so good, which is why the price for them hovers around their reprocessed mineral value.
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It's an underused ship. Think smaller Rokh, that's more crappy. People just need to think outside of the box sometimes. I flew with a guy and I can absolutely not remember his name, that sat at roughly 150 in an eagle and sniped at people with 1 rail, and then when the would approach, he would switch to his neutrons and most of the time, tear them apart.
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Russian Federation3632 Posts
On April 25 2011 03:50 TurpinOS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 03:32 Snackbar wrote:
It wasn't FB, FB was nice, it was Kwark.
Sure, you can't throw them into Domi's with RR (Well, technically, you can) but what you can do, is throw them into Thoraxes. Or you can actually throw them into a useful ship. Im not a gallente hater, and I know blasters CAN get out a lot of dps, but really theyre quite subpar if you compare them to most other ships (or to ships flown by idiots that dont know you shouldnt stay on 0 of a blaster boat) (also I lold at training scorpion and widow, ur funneh, caldari bs very useful skill toi have, I guess you also love falcunz.)
[Proper Thorax Fit, not useless, doing this from memory]
5x 150mm AC II, Barrage S
AB/scram/web or scram/web/web (fuck prop mods!)
2x 1600mm RRT / crystalline carbonides
2x EANM II
1x DCU II
trimarks or ACRs if desired
Probably around 80%~ of FCs will instantly primary you, as long as you pick your wingmate ship correctly (blaster Moa works best, then Vexor). Pair this with one or more gank Vexors (honour tank + heavy neutron blaster) and you've got yourself a potent gank combo. Sort of gimmicky but if that's an issue, you're playing the wrong game. I promise, I'm not trolling.
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PS Snack:
Kwark has the rare gift of knowing what to do, and actually enforces some semblance of fitting standards. I used to be skeptical too, but the results speak for themselves.
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Wololo, ever heard about beagles?
I've seen Garmon execute the concept well (incidentally, it was also a 600M fit, and I'm sure there were ganglinks involved).
I can't say the same for any other pilot in the game. I'm unconvinced.
roughly 150 in an eagle and sniped at people with 1 rail, and then when the would approach, he would switch to his neutrons and most of the time, tear them apart.
I might have just woken up but even I can see why that's a horrible idea...
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
On April 25 2011 06:22 Nyovne wrote:
It's that you're taken Sard or I would sex u up <3.
Don't you already have a girlfriend
So much infidelity going on in this thread
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Yeop, he stopped after nano-nerf. Not reccomending anyone doing it, but if you want to catch the odd ceptor or something, it could be fun. But you are right, I can't really find any good uses for the eagle anymore.
But I was just trying to help anyhow, so take it or leave it. But there is a reason that BYDI is in the top 10 pvp corps
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Are you still subscribed to eve online and up to date with the the current mechanics in 0.0 and metagame in 0.0 snack? Your posts seem...a little lacking and heavy on the theory crafting/it happened once side.
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I couldn't possibly care less about nought point nought, and yes I am still subscribed. But most of my personal experiences are from before goons owned Delve (now owned by someone, I don't really care)
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And it doesnt come to your mind that things could have changed and make your opinion/experience useless?
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On April 25 2011 06:26 Snackbar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 03:50 TurpinOS wrote:
Im not a gallente hater, and I know blasters CAN get out a lot of dps, but really theyre quite subpar if you compare them to most other ships (or to ships flown by idiots that dont know you shouldnt stay on 0 of a blaster boat)
(also I lold at training scorpion and widow, ur funneh, caldari bs very useful skill toi have, I guess you also love falcunz.) Wololo, ever heard about beagles? And yeah, Caldari bs is a very useful skill toi have. Beagles usually don't have a range of 0, but I don't know, I'm no expert! I've just been flying around with DNA alot. But yeah. Caldari battleships are rape, if you actually know how to use them properly, which not a lot of people do. But the thing is, if you are jumped by a Thorax, it WILL (most likely) MWD towards you at about 1.6k and then point/web you, so you don't really have much of a choice unless you are in something smaller. And have a scram/web yourself.
For the first time in a long time i have to agree with someone. Caldari battleships are the shit man. You put some torps, some tps, some webs and 5bcus on a raven, mix in some drones - BAM - easy 1700 dps. Lets not get started on how op rohks are. You get scramed by one of those you're pretty much dead. And Beagles are so underrated with antimatter you get up to 7km optimal with blasters, if that doesn't float your boat you're just asking for too much.
P.S.: Hellcat abadons do 800dps at 40km while having 160k ehp. fuck amarr
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