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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
On February 25 2011 05:59 Inzek wrote: what!! how the fuck did you got a mach!!! i fuking hhhhhhh... cant...  fb <3fuk i lose maels.. but machs!! (in wc4, and assault with whole room aggro) also.. wtf meta acs? Meta AC's because I can't use t2 yet and the only benefits of t2 guns at this point are t2 ammo (barrage, which is not used in pve) and 6% damage (not really that important atm) | ||
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TurpinOS
Canada1223 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:29 Phayze wrote: DCU is a pvp item. You rarely see it on an active pve fit because a hardener does a better job with dps tanked. You dont go into structure in pve, if you do you are probably scrammed and will die unless you pray to jesus and hope overheating is enough. With that said, tachs with no tracking mods is a joke no matter what ship you are using. 4 Heatsinks is good since the Nightmare is basically a "Kill shit before I run out of cap to tank dps" ship, there is nothing in the lows that would be more efficient for doing missions than the 4th heatsink. Maybe 3 and a power diag + TE, or just 2 TE. *beep beeP* Onboard computer reports a failure in teh sarcasm detector *beep beep* edit : quote : (barrage, which is not used in pve) - Wut? | ||
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PoisedYeTi
Australia167 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:32 Firebolt145 wrote:[spoiler] I tabbed out, forgetting that buzzkill spawns a fuckload of stuff on you. A DCU wouldn't have saved me. Meta AC's because I can't use t2 yet and the only benefits of t2 guns at this point are t2 ammo (barrage, which is not used in pve) and 6% damage (not really that important atm) I use a machariel for PVP and PVE and can tell you that barrage is the king of all ammos for both! Editing in my eve-kill stats to give a little background as this is my first post in the eve thread. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=147635 | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
edit; phased plasma L is a 10th of the price of barrage L. There is no need for barrage when you're in a mach. If you're in a mael and you don't want to use arties, then by all means use barrage. edit2; i'm talking about pve here. obviously in pvp there are times when you need 100km falloff range | ||
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GoDLy MD
United Kingdom258 Posts
I have some pretty major exams coming May, but i'm really keen to start up EVE. Too much of a time sink, or fun game that doesn't need 24/7 play? | ||
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TurpinOS
Canada1223 Posts
On February 25 2011 07:10 Firebolt145 wrote: Unless 65k falloff is not enough for you, barrage isn't needed. For missions requiring kinetic damage, phased plasma does well and is a LOT cheaper. edit; phased plasma L is a 10th of the price of barrage L. There is no need for barrage when you're in a mach. If you're in a mael and you don't want to use arties, then by all means use barrage. Falloff is half damage so at distances like 40k, barrage deals WAY more dmg then normal ammo. but sure price is higher. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
 edit: mexican being nou, i honest to god forgot his name for a short while haha | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19228 Posts
On February 25 2011 07:14 GoDLy MD wrote: You can have plenty of fun with only a few hours a week, though you won't be making lots of money. One of the cool things about EVE is that you don't level up by playing, so if you need to go take a break to study and take exams for a few weeks, you can. All you have to do is hop online for a few minutes every week to update your skill queue (unless you're training a long skill).Similar to the other post a few pages back, long time lurker of this thread but never really understood the jargon people used. I have some pretty major exams coming May, but i'm really keen to start up EVE. Too much of a time sink, or fun game that doesn't need 24/7 play? | ||
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GoDLy MD
United Kingdom258 Posts
On February 25 2011 07:52 tofucake wrote: You can have plenty of fun with only a few hours a week, though you won't be making lots of money. One of the cool things about EVE is that you don't level up by playing, so if you need to go take a break to study and take exams for a few weeks, you can. All you have to do is hop online for a few minutes every week to update your skill queue (unless you're training a long skill). That's wonderful, hopefully I stand to be seeing you all soon then! | ||
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Inzek
Chile802 Posts
if you have large autocannon spec, you should have at 4 at least.. and thats a little more than 6% dps. Barrage is a very good ammo, but is too expensive to use it imo, i've never flyed mach tbh., so my opinion comes just from mael and, WTF SCOUTS!! cuz, one, i have them ;\ two, mach is at least (AT LEAST) gall3, minmie3, and thats a lot of time to train. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
i'm currently training large projectiles IV, once i get large autocannon spec i will definitely get t2 guns, don't worry | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
On February 25 2011 10:45 Warri wrote: The only missions where you should bother with barrage are Pirate invasion and blockade, and that only if you want to blitz them. For everything else RF fusion/pp/emp > * I guess im too much of a cheapskate. I just use regular nonfaction t1 ammo and do blockade in about 14 mins. Regardless I doubt youd see much of a difference with faction ammo since you probly won't reduce shots to kill on most npcs because their health is so low to begin with. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
If you were in a vargur, then by all means use faction ammo since you only have 4 guns, but a mach with 7 and 25% increased RoF just chews through them too quickly. | ||
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tHornstein
United Kingdom201 Posts
On February 25 2011 17:53 Firebolt145 wrote: I've found faction ammo unnecessary - sure they make shit die even faster but I think the increased price easily costs more than the faster mission completion time. If you were in a vargur, then by all means use faction ammo since you only have 4 guns, but a mach with 7 and 25% increased RoF just chews through them too quickly. how about u spend less time theorycrafting and more time not losing machariels LOL OWNED in other news i got accepted to sniggwaffe so im going off to live in nullsex cu guys ilu | ||
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Capiru
Brazil170 Posts
Now i'm safed up waiting on GCC \o/ http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8994406 | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 25 2011 17:53 Firebolt145 wrote: I've found faction ammo unnecessary - sure they make shit die even faster but I think the increased price easily costs more than the faster mission completion time. If you were in a vargur, then by all means use faction ammo since you only have 4 guns, but a mach with 7 and 25% increased RoF just chews through them too quickly. No It doesn't Faction ammo is more than worth it even in a mach due to the really high multiplier that autocannons have on a mach. Sure it's more "worth it" on a vargur but the increased damage is in fact worth it as proven by hours of mathematics and self testing. If your skills are shit though (like...if you cant use tech 2 large AC) then it's not as big of a deal. PVE mach dps with faction ammo approaches insane numbers like 1250 or some stupid shit. Vargur only gets like 1050  IN the end though, you lost your mach to 10 frigs, you should never be able to speak again | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
I'll start testing with RF ammo then | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
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