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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 22 2011 13:43 GMT
#5901
my guns did like 8.8 dmg. =D
Also in hindsight it is kinda obvious, that WE spiked local that high in M-MD3B. xD
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 14:21:03
January 22 2011 14:06 GMT
#5902
so i decided to try my hand at battlereports. do tell if they suck.

we're faffing around the wormholes ganking ratters in 0.0 exits when we get the itch for a darkside roam. we've been doing them for a few weeks now and pretty much know that we need at least 10 people to pull them off properly and fulfill all the roles. unfortunately we only get 8, which is kinda bad.

our fleet is 3 non-nano drakes (maximum tank!), 1 pulsezealot, 1 scimi (yours truly), 1 huginn, 1 lachesis 1 stiletto. no commandships, no ganglinks of any sort. our wormhole chain opens up into NC territory, the conglomeration of alliances notorious for only fighting with 3 to 1 odds in their favor. regardless, we decide to rely on their infamous stupidity and arrogance in fleets, which we have already confirmed on some previous roams through their territory.

we go through a few of their station systems trying to draw them out into a fight, and sure enough, a bait drake lands on a gate with us at one point. we decide to go along with it and bite the bait cause we want a fight. we jump with it, he tries to tackle something, fails, we burn off gate while shooting him. at that point local spikes by about 25. textbook NC. they're coming through the gate we just came in through, probably using the time their drake spent cloaked to get on that gate without us seeing it. we kinda expected it though and by this point were 30km off gate. their fleet decloaks and we finish up the drake just before 2 scimmies apepar. their fleet is a random shitblob of battlecruisers, dictors and t2 frigs, though they have 2 logis and a falcon/rook. they burn after us with murder on their mind and we start kiting. at one point one of our drakes gets scrammed, but it appears that an overheated drake and an overheated scimmi tank the nc fleet just fine and after i get even the shield maintanance bots on him he actually starts regaining shields from 30% up to 50. at that point all of the ncs tacklers are dead, they are drawn out and out of range of their logis and ewar cower and they decide to disengage. our zealot is the hero of the battle, foiling all of their tackle attempts with relative ease.

here's the br:
http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6758
unfortunately we lose no ships, and therefore the hostiles that we didnt kill dont even show up on the battle report. we decide to sacrifice rengas' stiletto next time so we get a properly epic br.

we try getting out of that pipe cause knowing nc, they're just waiting for reinforcements so they can try with 4:1 odds this time. sure enough they come chasing after us, but we're running and cant see their exact numbers. 3 systems left in the pipe. 2. 1. they finally catch us around there, probably by jumpbriding. all they get is another ceptor loss. we prepare to make our exit out of the one-way system pipe to FREEEDOOOOM when local spikes by 15 more. another nc gang is covering the other exit with bubbles up. local is at at around 45 with only 7 of our gang in it (rengas went 1 jump ahead to scout, crossjumping the hostile reinforcements when they came in). by this time they have plenty of machariels, logis and caldari recons to make any attempt by us to fight futile. both gates are bubbled to fuck anyway. we try picking at their sides but manage nothing.

so we execute an old pro trick on them that we got from the ruskies - logoffski. we go get dinner, come back, hostiles are gone. we start making our way back to the wormhole but we're jumping through pretty populated systems so hostiles have perfect intel. soon the same guys from before show their face, except this time they're much heavier on t2 cruisers, t3s and commandships. regardless we decide to have a go, theres only 20ish of them so how bad could it be. we do kiting, they do dieing. a curse manages to cap out one of our drakes, and soon pays for his insolence. luckily their tacklers are by this point so scared of our might zealot hero that they warp off as soon as he locks them, and our drake warps out. unfortunately our lachesis is permajammed by a falcon/rook combo and we cant maintain a reliable point on anything, so we decide to disengage.
we snag a crow and a cane beforehand though.

http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6764

again the hostiles deny us an epic br cause they still cant manage to kill anything.

we make our way back to the wormhole, and 1 jump out, while we're midwarp, local spikes by about 30 again. hostiles are coming through a gate thats only 35000km off our outgate, they have a pretty short warp and land on our outgate the same time as we do. we both jump, we all know what to do, we start kiting but the hostiles are too close, too numerous and too fast (even though half of them is still aggroed on the other side of the gate), and two of our drakes get tackled by t3s and a sleipnir, and soon the rest of their gang. no amount of overheat can save them now, one of the drakes tanks pretty well but eventually crashes, the other dies fast cause all my reps are almost burnt out by this point somebody is also killing my logistics drones ><

even so, we havent lost our composure, and during all that we punish the hostiles by killing 2 claws and a rapier for positive efficiency.
http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6767

gfs were had in local. our only regret is thinking what would have happened if we had our standard 10 man fleet instead of the crippled one we took out.

there were a bunch more smaller stories and "moments" during all that that i wont go into, cause the battlereport seems big enough as it is. hope you enjoyed it.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
January 22 2011 15:08 GMT
#5903
Love it.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
January 22 2011 15:35 GMT
#5904
I'm getting 5 or so corp applications a day at the moment of which maybe 1 will be following the process in the op. The rest are getting ignored or rejected out of hand. If that happened to you then reapply correctly, or don't, I don't really care either way.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
January 22 2011 16:09 GMT
#5905
Awesome write up vil, I can feel the adrenaline from way over here :>
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
January 22 2011 16:12 GMT
#5906
They had a freaking manticore in that first BR. Don't see how that things awesome dps didn't just nuke you all to hell honestly.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 23:50:32
January 22 2011 17:56 GMT
#5907
we just killed an IT carrier in the middle of their space. i missed it by around 4 minutes.

http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6772

and then this happened:

http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6788

same gang just a bit before they got the critical blob amount:

http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6778

they failed to kill anything so they dont show up on kb properly

and then we got blobbed to fuck by an admittedly pretty good RA gang:

http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6804

they had 3 basilisks and 2 scimis that never aggressed
pretty good gang by them, if we had some ganglink bonuses for speed going we would have fared much better, this way we just got swarmed.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
January 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#5908
Corp thread falling off the first page.

Unacceptable.
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 18:29:06
January 23 2011 18:28 GMT
#5909
So a little update from my newb pov:
Yesterday I did the advanced career missions. Tbh they were pretty boring. Also I think that agent did not like me, because he sent me on two suicide missions.

Luckily later I learnt a lot of useful stuff.
First I learned what contract pvp is, then I went on rifter training held by Firebolt145. That resultet in me having a few decent overview settings and basic knowledge of a lot of useful stuff. For example gate crashing, coordinating points, d-scaning and more. I'll probably do some random d-scanning, since I kind of liked that.

Later the corp went on a roam with ~18 ppl. Which turned out to be a nice, align/jump/warp training. I also learnt that admitting, when one made a mistake is a good skill toi have, at least in the presence of KwarK.
On a totally unrelated note, I have now positive points on our killboard.
Capiru
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil170 Posts
January 23 2011 19:50 GMT
#5910
New plan : in 18 Months all our rifter pilots will be titans, and we will cyno doomsday newbs in eifer.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 20:07:20
January 23 2011 20:07 GMT
#5911
apparently titans can only doomsday in 0.0 and not in low (according to serg but he isn't sure)

so there's THAT plan out the window...
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 22:49:39
January 23 2011 22:47 GMT
#5912
[22:32:30] Vice Noat > holy they are all in ammold
[22:32:35] Gemini 3 > DOCK UP
[22:32:55] Vice Noat > 5 in ammold
[22:34:37] Vice Noat > zero is in ammold
[22:35:25] Vice Noat > they all left ammold
[22:35:39] Vice Noat > uber still here
[22:35:40] Velveteen Viliana > uber is still in ammold
[22:35:54] Gemini 3 > They're trying to point one of us
[22:35:58] Gemini 3 > then all of the other login
[22:36:13] Gemini 3 > It's an obvious trap
[22:36:19] RoosterSamurai > It's a tarp
[22:36:24] Gemini 3 > Just stay docked
[22:36:39] Obelcho > thanks sherlock
[22:36:52] Gemini 3 > Dont be sarcastic
[22:36:57] Vice Noat > uber logged
[22:36:58] Gemini 3 > Some people don't understand
[22:38:00] Vice Noat > all logged =D
[22:38:35] Vice Noat > all in lol
[22:38:36] Gemini 3 > this is so much fail together
[22:38:38] Zesoft > Christ
[22:38:59] David Clausewitz > hon better
[22:39:37] Vice Noat > i'm popped (


[22:39:43] Leon Raeth > srsly
[22:39:46] Gemini 3 > What
[22:39:48] Gemini 3 > are you serious
[22:39:51] Apturan Reech > LOL
[22:39:57] RoosterSamurai > Nobody is serious
[22:39:58] Apturan Reech > what did you lose
[22:40:03] Vice Noat > mael (
[22:40:06] Apturan Reech > WTF
[22:40:06] David Clausewitz > where
[22:40:07] RoosterSamurai > owch
[22:40:07] Apturan Reech > man
[22:40:08] David Clausewitz > in emol?
[22:40:09] Gemini 3 > Are you retarded
[22:40:10] Apturan Reech > seriously wtf
[22:40:15] David Clausewitz > what system?
[22:40:16] Gemini 3 > I told everyone
[22:40:17] Gemini 3 > to dock
[22:40:18] Vice Noat > ammold
[22:40:26] Gemini 3 > Kwark's so gonna fine you
[22:40:29] KwarK uK > lol
[22:40:29] Leon Raeth > ouch
[22:40:32] KwarK uK > wtf?
[22:40:37] David Clausewitz > how do you view the fines anyways
[22:40:41] Vice Noat > sorry (
[22:40:46] Vice Noat > how much is the fine
[22:40:55] Gemini 3 > Killmail
[22:40:59] Gemini 3 > post it
[22:41:24] Gemini 3 > When it told everyone to dock
[22:41:29] Gemini 3 > and you said you were mid mish
[22:41:33] Gemini 3 > DOCK UP
[22:41:41] Gemini 3 > It was an obvious trap
[22:41:42] KwarK uK > -_-
[22:41:42] Johnny Business > rawr
[22:41:46] Johnny Business > It's a trap!
[22:42:05] Johnny Business > sup?
[22:42:29] David Clausewitz > whoever said lvl1s and lvl2s were same is 100% wrong
[22:42:32] KwarK uK > http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8615679
[22:42:37] David Clausewitz > you get like 7x more money from lvl 2's than 1's
[22:42:49] Gemini 3 > ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS VICE
[22:42:54] Johnny Business > ...
[22:42:56] Johnny Business > .....
[22:42:57] Johnny Business > !!!!
[22:43:17] David Clausewitz > that's a lot of isk rofl
[22:43:45] KwarK uK > to WTs we knew were there
[22:43:52] Gemini 3 > AND SOMEONE EVEN COMPLAINED
[22:43:56] Gemini 3 > THAT I WAS SAYING DOCK UP
[22:43:59] Gemini 3 > FOR HALF AN HOUR
[22:44:04] Gemini 3 > BECUZ I KNEW SOMEONE WASNT DOCKED
[22:44:18] Gemini 3 > AND YOU SAW EVERYONE LOGIN
[22:44:24] Gemini 3 > AND YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING? SERIOUSLY
[22:44:26] Gemini 3 > i'm just mad
[22:44:45] RoosterSamurai > Me too
[22:45:27] Johnny Business > 16 % efficiency sup

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8615679
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 23 2011 22:58 GMT
#5913
Is that a fucking pimped arty fit? What the fucking fuck. Pro tip vice, don't do that
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
nathan3b
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada16 Posts
January 23 2011 22:59 GMT
#5914
Wow, that's huge... Hope the fine is more than 10mil....
Ten Tron
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
January 23 2011 23:08 GMT
#5915
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8615679

Who is to blame for this insubordination?

-the pilot who disobeyed orders?
or
-the leadership who allowed such behavior?

http://www.youtube.com/user/TenTr0n?feature=mhum
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
January 23 2011 23:10 GMT
#5916
On January 24 2011 07:58 Jayme wrote:
Is that a fucking pimped arty fit? What the fucking fuck. Pro tip vice, don't do that

We'd been discussing exactly what they were trying to do on TS and corp chat for over an hour. We'd been warning every guy who logged on and making sure everyone knew about the WT threat and was safe from it. There was nobody who didn't know exactly what'd happen if they tried to go through Ammold or missioned in Emol/Ammold. The corp reacted perfectly, everyone did exactly what they were trained to do and none of the new guys were lost. Great drills by everyone, it can't be helped if one fucktard suicides to WTs he knew were there.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 23 2011 23:10 GMT
#5917
On January 24 2011 08:08 Ten Tron wrote:
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8615679

Who is to blame for this insubordination?

-the pilot who disobeyed orders?
or
-the leadership who allowed such behavior?



it's not like they "allowed" it
Major Stan
Profile Joined January 2011
3 Posts
January 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#5918
Theyre "allowing" it by keeping a guy like that in corp...He even said in the chat log "I see them logging out" while the hostiles were still in local with him. He then proceeded to undock and go back to his mission.

How do you ignore that and say "hey its a good idea to go back to my mission right now"?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 23:23:29
January 23 2011 23:20 GMT
#5919
On January 24 2011 08:17 Major Stan wrote:
Theyre "allowing" it by keeping a guy like that in corp...He even said in the chat log "I see them logging out" while the hostiles were still in local with him. He then proceeded to undock and go back to his mission.

How do you ignore that and say "hey its a good idea to go back to my mission right now"?


I think almost everyone was surprised when he said he got popped on a mission and that most people thought everyone had been docked

kicking him from the corp or not after-the-fact really doesn't say anything about leadership being at blame for "allowing" him to disobey the order, unless you're saying they should have kicked him the second they noticed he undocked (but noted in the first paragraph, I don't think anyone knew he wasn't docked)
Capiru
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil170 Posts
January 23 2011 23:23 GMT
#5920
u mad?
From: Spyrerin
Sent: 2011.01.23 23:17
To: Gemini 3,

u mad bro?
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