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Major Stan
Profile Joined January 2011
3 Posts
January 23 2011 23:24 GMT
#5921
The problem is, there's no idiocy filter in your application process...
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 23 2011 23:34 GMT
#5922
Well, the main purpose of the corp is to provide a gathering place for TLers in EVE. Implementing an "idiocy filter" is counter to that goal. Discouraging idiocy comes from fines and public humiliation and I think the corp does reasonably well with stopping people from being stupid given the open admission.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42718 Posts
January 23 2011 23:57 GMT
#5923
On January 24 2011 08:34 motbob wrote:
Well, the main purpose of the corp is to provide a gathering place for TLers in EVE. Implementing an "idiocy filter" is counter to that goal. Discouraging idiocy comes from fines and public humiliation and I think the corp does reasonably well with stopping people from being stupid given the open admission.

This pretty much sums it up. We're a corp for tlers, even the really stupid ones. That means unfortunate things like this will happen, despite our best efforts to stop them. The chat shows that the corp as a whole was extremely competent regarding the WTs, we saw them coming, we knew exactly what they were trying to do and what to do about it. The orders went out and they were very clear.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Niji87
Profile Joined September 2008
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 00:09:18
January 24 2011 00:02 GMT
#5924
On January 24 2011 08:24 Major Stan wrote:
The problem is, there's no idiocy filter in your application process...


Yah there is.

Recruiting process

New players
Ask in SCBW for a mentor/21 day trial
Get mentored
PM kwark on tl for background check (put your eve username in the pm)
apply to corp

Old players
pm kwark on tl with your story



Some people have a really hard time with the filter!

It comes down to "Push the red button to continue." If they push the blue button they will probably be stuck where they are forever! No one really knows what happens to those people. It's said the gingerbread men eat them. The rest get to move on. They are promised a journey through the stars upon Kwarks sweet spacemobile, potentially with the top down. What more could you want?

Filter + Rewards for the successful! Wombo-combo.

Also, I'd say that the fact that the corp is for a sites members is pretty important. Like Kwark said. Same concept for my corp. You can use a basic filter to keep the super serious dummies out that would ruin everyones fun, but you can't really call it the TL corp if it doesn't let TL players in. Haha.
I am not very good at playing StarCraft.
Major Stan
Profile Joined January 2011
3 Posts
January 24 2011 00:11 GMT
#5925
because no one can fake it for 21 days, right? i mean shit, log in once every 5 days and join a few fleets.

It's funny how a group like TL tolerates sub-par intellect when it comes to gaming. You should be ashamed of yourselves

User was banned for this post.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 00:21:22
January 24 2011 00:12 GMT
#5926
On January 24 2011 09:11 Major Stan wrote:
because no one can fake it for 21 days, right? i mean shit, log in once every 5 days and join a few fleets.

It's funny how a group like TL tolerates sub-par intellect when it comes to gaming. You should be ashamed of yourselves

Get out, please.

EDIT: I should clarify. Making a new account, coming onto our site, and telling us what our goals should be is unacceptable. Don't tell us that we should want a corp with nothing but top-class pilots at the expense of including the slower or less hardcore members of the community.

But if you have any suggestions as to how we could make the corp better without demolishing our goal of inclusiveness, we're open to suggestions.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
January 24 2011 00:15 GMT
#5927
On January 24 2011 09:12 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 09:11 Major Stan wrote:
because no one can fake it for 21 days, right? i mean shit, log in once every 5 days and join a few fleets.

It's funny how a group like TL tolerates sub-par intellect when it comes to gaming. You should be ashamed of yourselves

Get out, please.

Ill have to agree with Mot here, you come off as an elitist douchebag if youre being sincere, or a supahtroll (which Im leaning towards after looking at your 3 post count).
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 24 2011 00:25 GMT
#5928
Let's not beat a dead horse (heh)

What intrigues me more is the purpose of his fit. Meta 4 guns with regular ammo on a semi-faction fit, for less dps than a cane as per EFT? Would make sense to take the 1b, put 350m on a plex for an alt then 150m on two canes, and enjoy more than twice the dps and 500m to spend on exotic dancers?
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 00:50:59
January 24 2011 00:46 GMT
#5929
On January 24 2011 09:25 Soap wrote:
Let's not beat a dead horse (heh)

What intrigues me more is the purpose of his fit. Meta 4 guns with regular ammo on a semi-faction fit, for less dps than a cane as per EFT? Would make sense to take the 1b, put 350m on a plex for an alt then 150m on two canes, and enjoy more than twice the dps and 500m to spend on exotic dancers?


Id gladly see you running level 4s with 2 canes (alsoprotip, its a plex more per month)

Its a normal fit, just the ''i lack SP but have a lot of money'' type of fit (personnally i cant stand artis, i prefer AC) but nothing is wrong.

(also, the fact you suggested faction ammo to run level 4 mission just shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about)


On the global subject, I think the dude with 3 post is mentally challenged, and odds are he is one of the wartarget that though it would be cool to create an account. The corporation is not made to be the elite of the elite at Eve, its made to be a way where new players can start. I am also all in for making (public) fun of people that do stupid shits, but I think the actual fining system is one of the most useless thing that was ever implemented, especially due to the current consequences that are related to ''not paying the arbitrary fine''.

For a second we all pretend that we are the very best and that we thrive to become even better, and next thing we know its allowed (and globaly accepted) to stand in a hostile system during an OP in order to kill a fleet member that has not payed such arbitrary fine.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 24 2011 00:53 GMT
#5930
On January 24 2011 09:46 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 09:25 Soap wrote:
Let's not beat a dead horse (heh)

What intrigues me more is the purpose of his fit. Meta 4 guns with regular ammo on a semi-faction fit, for less dps than a cane as per EFT? Would make sense to take the 1b, put 350m on a plex for an alt then 150m on two canes, and enjoy more than twice the dps and 500m to spend on exotic dancers?


Id gladly see you running level 4s with 2 canes (alsoprotip, its a plex more per month)

Its a normal fit, just the ''i lack SP but have a lot of money'' type of fit (personnally i cant stand artis, i prefer AC) but nothing is wrong.

(also, the fact you suggested faction ammo to run level 4 mission just shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about)


Of course I dont have a clue, else I wouldnt be asking. Thanks for your time.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 24 2011 00:53 GMT
#5931
On January 24 2011 09:11 Major Stan wrote:
because no one can fake it for 21 days, right? i mean shit, log in once every 5 days and join a few fleets.

It's funny how a group like TL tolerates sub-par intellect when it comes to gaming. You should be ashamed of yourselves


pretty sure this guy is a troll from dark horses (the corp we're at war with)
Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
January 24 2011 00:59 GMT
#5932
On January 24 2011 09:46 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 09:25 Soap wrote:
Let's not beat a dead horse (heh)

What intrigues me more is the purpose of his fit. Meta 4 guns with regular ammo on a semi-faction fit, for less dps than a cane as per EFT? Would make sense to take the 1b, put 350m on a plex for an alt then 150m on two canes, and enjoy more than twice the dps and 500m to spend on exotic dancers?


Id gladly see you running level 4s with 2 canes (alsoprotip, its a plex more per month)

Its a normal fit, just the ''i lack SP but have a lot of money'' type of fit (personnally i cant stand artis, i prefer AC) but nothing is wrong.

(also, the fact you suggested faction ammo to run level 4 mission just shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about)


On the global subject, I think the dude with 3 post is mentally challenged, and odds are he is one of the wartarget that though it would be cool to create an account. The corporation is not made to be the elite of the elite at Eve, its made to be a way where new players can start. I am also all in for making (public) fun of people that do stupid shits, but I think the actual fining system is one of the most useless thing that was ever implemented, especially due to the current consequences that are related to ''not paying the arbitrary fine''.

For a second we all pretend that we are the very best and that we thrive to become even better, and next thing we know its allowed (and globaly accepted) to stand in a hostile system during an OP in order to kill a fleet member that has not payed such arbitrary fine.


This.

I heard about what happened the other night with Tao and that struck me as complete bullshit. I dont know who pissed in who's wheaties but that kind of stuff needs to not happen. Especially with members that have been around for a while and are competent. Mistakes happen. As long as they don't continue to happen they are excusable imo. But what happened the other night was completely over the top and I'd have left at that point had I been there as well.
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
January 24 2011 00:59 GMT
#5933
On January 24 2011 09:53 Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 09:46 TurpinOS wrote:
On January 24 2011 09:25 Soap wrote:
Let's not beat a dead horse (heh)

What intrigues me more is the purpose of his fit. Meta 4 guns with regular ammo on a semi-faction fit, for less dps than a cane as per EFT? Would make sense to take the 1b, put 350m on a plex for an alt then 150m on two canes, and enjoy more than twice the dps and 500m to spend on exotic dancers?


Id gladly see you running level 4s with 2 canes (alsoprotip, its a plex more per month)

Its a normal fit, just the ''i lack SP but have a lot of money'' type of fit (personnally i cant stand artis, i prefer AC) but nothing is wrong.

(also, the fact you suggested faction ammo to run level 4 mission just shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about)


Of course I dont have a clue, else I wouldnt be asking. Thanks for your time.


yeah my bad, currently studying and i just came to take a peek at this topic and didnt really take the time to read before replying (thought you meant it as an affirmation and not a question)
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42718 Posts
January 24 2011 01:07 GMT
#5934
On January 24 2011 09:59 Invol2ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 09:46 TurpinOS wrote:
On January 24 2011 09:25 Soap wrote:
Let's not beat a dead horse (heh)

What intrigues me more is the purpose of his fit. Meta 4 guns with regular ammo on a semi-faction fit, for less dps than a cane as per EFT? Would make sense to take the 1b, put 350m on a plex for an alt then 150m on two canes, and enjoy more than twice the dps and 500m to spend on exotic dancers?


Id gladly see you running level 4s with 2 canes (alsoprotip, its a plex more per month)

Its a normal fit, just the ''i lack SP but have a lot of money'' type of fit (personnally i cant stand artis, i prefer AC) but nothing is wrong.

(also, the fact you suggested faction ammo to run level 4 mission just shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about)


On the global subject, I think the dude with 3 post is mentally challenged, and odds are he is one of the wartarget that though it would be cool to create an account. The corporation is not made to be the elite of the elite at Eve, its made to be a way where new players can start. I am also all in for making (public) fun of people that do stupid shits, but I think the actual fining system is one of the most useless thing that was ever implemented, especially due to the current consequences that are related to ''not paying the arbitrary fine''.

For a second we all pretend that we are the very best and that we thrive to become even better, and next thing we know its allowed (and globaly accepted) to stand in a hostile system during an OP in order to kill a fleet member that has not payed such arbitrary fine.


This.

I heard about what happened the other night with Tao and that struck me as complete bullshit. I dont know who pissed in who's wheaties but that kind of stuff needs to not happen. Especially with members that have been around for a while and are competent. Mistakes happen. As long as they don't continue to happen they are excusable imo. But what happened the other night was completely over the top and I'd have left at that point had I been there as well.

If you have an issue with it then you are free to discuss it with me. Personally my view is that by refusing to own up to a comparatively small offence he wasted a lot of time and was subsequently kicked from the op. When I ejected him from fleet and closed finder then the message should have been pretty clear. My response when he showed up again should have surprised no-one.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
January 24 2011 01:15 GMT
#5935
So whyd you guys blow him up tonight? xD
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8606499
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
January 24 2011 01:21 GMT
#5936
that was last night
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42718 Posts
January 24 2011 01:29 GMT
#5937
He failwarped. I asked who it was because in a 20 man fleet it can be difficult to tell who is who and he didn't say anything. I asked several times and stressed that I wished him to own up, no reply. Had he said anything there would have been no more about it. Upon manually checking who was there I eventually worked out it was him and tossed him a fine for not admitting it. He didn't pay so I tried to kill his ship. Rather than identify the choice he was faced with he played silly buggers for fifteen minutes, warping around. As a result I kicked him from fleet and closed the finder with intent to proceed without him.
That was going fine until at a later point VoV crashed. We were going into battle at the time so I just reopened finder and told him to rejoin when he could. I was therefore quite surprised to learn that taoi had invited himself back into the fleet and rejoined us after being kicked. It didn't take very long to kill him and didn't especially disrupt the op to do so. As far as I'm concerned that was all there was to the matter.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
January 24 2011 01:49 GMT
#5938
Should've podded him. People need to listen up
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
January 24 2011 01:50 GMT
#5939
im the only semi-allowed to lose maels! xd
Stork FAN!!!
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 02:04:53
January 24 2011 02:04 GMT
#5940
roffffffffl

reminds me of mya, except on a smaller scale
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
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