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Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
December 20 2010 12:10 GMT
#4741
On December 20 2010 21:07 KwarK wrote:
Also I've been really bad at replying to pms because I'm generally pretty busy/lazy so if you don't get a reply pm me again and I'll put it off some more. I get so many of you.



Send some more my way Im actually playing again a decent amount
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44205 Posts
December 20 2010 12:28 GMT
#4742
On December 20 2010 21:10 Dacendoran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 21:07 KwarK wrote:
Also I've been really bad at replying to pms because I'm generally pretty busy/lazy so if you don't get a reply pm me again and I'll put it off some more. I get so many of you.



Send some more my way Im actually playing again a decent amount

I don't mean trials. I mean random eve related questions, corp applications, all that jazz.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 12:36:58
December 20 2010 12:35 GMT
#4743
Oh gawd, glhf.

Edit:Wtf is with the dowtime I thought it was supposed to be 30 minutes /whine
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 14:06:08
December 20 2010 13:25 GMT
#4744
On December 20 2010 15:48 Dexxus wrote:
Scrams are useless vs any semi-decent nanohac pilot too, they will do the obvious thing and not get in scram range.

Reasons to fit a disruptor on a nanocane:

#1: Kiting.
#2: So you can point things that try to kite you.
#3: Easier to spread points.

The gangs we fly are also supported by a high number of web fitted frigs and Rapiers, which is part of the gang design. The reason it didn't work last night is because I fucked up and was positioned wrong, as well as not accounting for my sensor recalibration time. I'll admit that disruptors aren't AS effective without webs, but webs are meant to be a part of the gangs we fly. Another note about that is we generally only fight things that want to fight us, meaning that they aren't as inclined to disengage as a solo gank target.


I've been thinking about this fight a lot, and I think there was a lot for mistakes on my part for me to learn from.

So what happened on my end (blackbird) was I attempted to warp to Dex at 50km, but by the time I got to him he was already 25-30km away, with the cynabals and vagabond all over him. I successfully got my jams out on one cyna and the vaga, but several seconds later drones flooded my screen. I wasn't too worried as I knew I could take t2 drone fire for a little bit with my LSE, so I just kept a careful eye on my shields while I waited for my jam cycles to end -- but next thing I knew the other unjammed cyna burned right up to my face, 5km away. Scrammed and blasted to bits 3 seconds afterwards.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is what I should've done: warp in at 100km to be safe, since my optimal is 70km + 70km fall-off, and I can always burn in on my mwd. I should create a safespot on the warp-in, so I can align back out ready to burn away from battle and warp out at the same time. And safety first: maintain distance, maintain distance, maintain distance.

I've also made a separate drones tab (that really cluttered up my pvp overview), and added velocity and transversal velocity to my overview... cynabals are still freaking fast, but that should help immensely in kiting.

I'm really kicking myself for this one, cuz I feel like we could've had a much better fight if I had stayed alive and kept 2 of 3 of them 70% jammed, and definitely could've kept the interrupting dramiel perma'd.

edit: In retrospect, if I had seen the second unjammed cyna burning after me, would it have been feasible to ask Dex on comms to switch his dual webs over to that cyna to help me burn away? Or was I already dead and lost cause when I was only 30km away from a cyna?
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
December 20 2010 15:31 GMT
#4745
when youre a lone sniper/longrange ship in a shortrange gang, always keep an eye on the radial velocity column on the overview. if you dont have it added, do it now. whenever you see someones radial velocity getting in excess of -1000 it means they're burning towards you and you should keep your eye on them.

other useful columns to be kept in the overview for pretty much everyone are velocity, and angular velocity.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Dexxus
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States329 Posts
December 20 2010 18:49 GMT
#4746
On December 20 2010 22:25 happyft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 15:48 Dexxus wrote:
Scrams are useless vs any semi-decent nanohac pilot too, they will do the obvious thing and not get in scram range.

Reasons to fit a disruptor on a nanocane:

#1: Kiting.
#2: So you can point things that try to kite you.
#3: Easier to spread points.

The gangs we fly are also supported by a high number of web fitted frigs and Rapiers, which is part of the gang design. The reason it didn't work last night is because I fucked up and was positioned wrong, as well as not accounting for my sensor recalibration time. I'll admit that disruptors aren't AS effective without webs, but webs are meant to be a part of the gangs we fly. Another note about that is we generally only fight things that want to fight us, meaning that they aren't as inclined to disengage as a solo gank target.


I've been thinking about this fight a lot, and I think there was a lot for mistakes on my part for me to learn from.

So what happened on my end (blackbird) was I attempted to warp to Dex at 50km, but by the time I got to him he was already 25-30km away, with the cynabals and vagabond all over him. I successfully got my jams out on one cyna and the vaga, but several seconds later drones flooded my screen. I wasn't too worried as I knew I could take t2 drone fire for a little bit with my LSE, so I just kept a careful eye on my shields while I waited for my jam cycles to end -- but next thing I knew the other unjammed cyna burned right up to my face, 5km away. Scrammed and blasted to bits 3 seconds afterwards.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is what I should've done: warp in at 100km to be safe, since my optimal is 70km + 70km fall-off, and I can always burn in on my mwd. I should create a safespot on the warp-in, so I can align back out ready to burn away from battle and warp out at the same time. And safety first: maintain distance, maintain distance, maintain distance.

I've also made a separate drones tab (that really cluttered up my pvp overview), and added velocity and transversal velocity to my overview... cynabals are still freaking fast, but that should help immensely in kiting.

I'm really kicking myself for this one, cuz I feel like we could've had a much better fight if I had stayed alive and kept 2 of 3 of them 70% jammed, and definitely could've kept the interrupting dramiel perma'd.

edit: In retrospect, if I had seen the second unjammed cyna burning after me, would it have been feasible to ask Dex on comms to switch his dual webs over to that cyna to help me burn away? Or was I already dead and lost cause when I was only 30km away from a cyna?


It would have been feasible if i didn't have both my webs on the cyna and vaga trying to kill me lol.

Also vil, it is that easy to stay out of scram range in a nanohac. Anything else you fight is too slow to be of worry getting away from you.
I need a signature so I'm using this one.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
December 20 2010 19:27 GMT
#4747
well i dont want to argue, but we can try it out on sisi, me in a cane you in a vaga or cyna. i know i tried it with rev and he was in a cynabal and we were surprised at how easy it is for the cane to juke and jive either outside of cynas point range or into its own scram range, partly cause of eve lag and the fact that cane has much more capacitor.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
December 20 2010 22:36 GMT
#4748
On December 21 2010 00:31 WiljushkA wrote:
when youre a lone sniper/longrange ship in a shortrange gang, always keep an eye on the radial velocity column on the overview. if you dont have it added, do it now. whenever you see someones radial velocity getting in excess of -1000 it means they're burning towards you and you should keep your eye on them.

other useful columns to be kept in the overview for pretty much everyone are velocity, and angular velocity.

How do I turn this on exactly? I'm quite newb when it comes to PvP.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
December 20 2010 23:19 GMT
#4749
Overview settings -> columns -> radial velocity.
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TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
December 21 2010 01:09 GMT
#4750
Sooooo we just got dec'd by a 2 man corp (seems more like a 1 man + alt corp), its the dude that stole my mission loot yesterday. Either he read our forums and saw that we tried to form something to pop him (and now he wants to test us) or the other option is that he thinks we are super carebears cause I actually gave him money in order to have my mission loot back (I cant take any standing hit and im WAY too lazy to go to gelf to mission)

In any case hes always in emol in a Loki, lets kill that a couple of times.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19232 Posts
December 21 2010 01:21 GMT
#4751
And he canceled it

I say we dec him back.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
tHornstein
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom201 Posts
December 21 2010 11:47 GMT
#4752
On December 21 2010 10:09 TurpinOS wrote:
Sooooo we just got dec'd by a 2 man corp (seems more like a 1 man + alt corp), its the dude that stole my mission loot yesterday. Either he read our forums and saw that we tried to form something to pop him (and now he wants to test us) or the other option is that he thinks we are super carebears cause I actually gave him money in order to have my mission loot back (I cant take any standing hit and im WAY too lazy to go to gelf to mission)

In any case hes always in emol in a Loki, lets kill that a couple of times.


is it that aphelious exorcio or w/e guy?
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 21 2010 14:47 GMT
#4753
So, i come online and kwark tells me he got a hyperion sitting on the gate in eifer. I log to pangell and we warp to the gate, but the hyperion is already gone and has gcc in local, so he killed someone. We decide to wait till his gcc runs out, because he might come back for another kill. Then Kwark finds a dominix baiting/ratting in a belt and we decide to kill that instead.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8336125
The Hyperion has seen us killing him and commented in local, thus we didnt go for the hyp kill anymore and just went back to usual business.
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
December 21 2010 14:53 GMT
#4754
On December 21 2010 23:47 Warri wrote:
So, i come online and kwark tells me he got a hyperion sitting on the gate in eifer. I log to pangell and we warp to the gate, but the hyperion is already gone and has gcc in local, so he killed someone. We decide to wait till his gcc runs out, because he might come back for another kill. Then Kwark finds a dominix baiting/ratting in a belt and we decide to kill that instead.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8336125
The Hyperion has seen us killing him and commented in local, thus we didnt go for the hyp kill anymore and just went back to usual business.


really a domi with two 800mm?
well gf, nice kill
Stork FAN!!!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44205 Posts
December 21 2010 14:56 GMT
#4755
On December 21 2010 23:53 Inzek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 23:47 Warri wrote:
So, i come online and kwark tells me he got a hyperion sitting on the gate in eifer. I log to pangell and we warp to the gate, but the hyperion is already gone and has gcc in local, so he killed someone. We decide to wait till his gcc runs out, because he might come back for another kill. Then Kwark finds a dominix baiting/ratting in a belt and we decide to kill that instead.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8336125
The Hyperion has seen us killing him and commented in local, thus we didnt go for the hyp kill anymore and just went back to usual business.


really a domi with two 800mm?
well gf, nice kill

That was you thought most odd about the domi fit? Not the rigs? Or lack of propmod/tackle? Or sebo? Anything could have killed this.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19232 Posts
December 21 2010 15:06 GMT
#4756
I can technically fly a cane...which is the first step towards flying a decent cane! And I'm only 0.26 from level 3s, so hopefully I can get up there in the next few days.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 15:08:14
December 21 2010 15:07 GMT
#4757
On December 21 2010 23:56 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 23:53 Inzek wrote:
On December 21 2010 23:47 Warri wrote:
So, i come online and kwark tells me he got a hyperion sitting on the gate in eifer. I log to pangell and we warp to the gate, but the hyperion is already gone and has gcc in local, so he killed someone. We decide to wait till his gcc runs out, because he might come back for another kill. Then Kwark finds a dominix baiting/ratting in a belt and we decide to kill that instead.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8336125
The Hyperion has seen us killing him and commented in local, thus we didnt go for the hyp kill anymore and just went back to usual business.


really a domi with two 800mm?
well gf, nice kill

That was you thought most odd about the domi fit? Not the rigs? Or lack of propmod/tackle? Or sebo? Anything could have killed this.


lol just saw the rigs, came back to post that....

now the 800s have sense... he was shield tanked.... :S

also he doesnt need tackle, he was ratting

PD: i dont know is like a frankstein fit....
Stork FAN!!!
bbq ftw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States139 Posts
December 22 2010 01:18 GMT
#4758
Also vil, it is that easy to stay out of scram range in a nanohac. Anything else you fight is too slow to be of worry getting away from you.

However, keep in mind that 90% of HAC/recon pilots are pretty much idiots. This is why the scram-shield cane and the HAMdrake are pretty awesome solomobiles (or were, seeing as solo is hardly viable nowadays). Nothing is more satisfying than killing a careless Vagabond before his Falcon support shows up.

Bitter unsubbed vet here -- realized that it took way too long to get decent small gang pvp. On a good night it would involve jumping 3-4 BCs into a gang of ~10 and killing expensive stuff before inevitably dying in a fire.

On a bad night its jumping into 20 people w/ 2 falcons.

I guess its a natural outcome to the risk-aversion the game preaches.

PS you guys are at war with Kaizoku okajima's corp? I still remember raging at my corpmate failing to kill his SFI (in my special theorycrafted anti-SFI thorax build!) because he capped out. Theorycrafting is the best part of Eve-o!
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19232 Posts
December 22 2010 01:21 GMT
#4759
We aren't anymore. Their huge fleets feel before our half-dozen strong Rifter hordes.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
December 22 2010 02:19 GMT
#4760
We are, hes the Yume Trans guy.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
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