EPTOn October 03 2014 06:17 Vipsanius wrote:
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So storing titans in a small pos is now safe?
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polluxtby
Sweden207 Posts
So storing titans in a small pos is now safe? | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On October 03 2014 08:02 polluxtby wrote: So storing titans in a small pos is now safe? "A decision to suspend a player's account must always be backed up by information in our server-side logs..." quote Safe unquote | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 03 2014 08:34 DefMatrixUltra wrote: "A decision to suspend a player's account must always be backed up by information in our server-side logs..." quote Safe unquote But the logs never show anything... like, ever. I think someone turned them off of "verbose" mode. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On October 03 2014 08:37 felisconcolori wrote: But the logs never show anything... like, ever. I think someone turned them off of "verbose" mode. Hence my answer. | ||
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Wild Things
United States42 Posts
On October 02 2014 09:05 Body_Shield wrote: 1. Carriers de-aggress out of triage on a gate camp in low 2. Jump across gate 3. Jump to cyno 4. Congrats you've won Eve CCP announced HIC rebalances going live at the same time as the cap changes, I think they'll end up having HIC points prevent caps from taking gates as well as jumping or warping. Also dictor bubble mechanic changes, which I'm assuming are the hobojamming nerfs (ty based god). | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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Wild Things
United States42 Posts
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On October 03 2014 14:05 Wild Things wrote: I think that Rise and Fozzie have enough experience running from gatecamps doing small gang/solo to recognize how bad that idea is. Unassailable logic. | ||
KwarK
United States44033 Posts
Anyway, Firvain, who the goon morons all hail as a paragon of honesty and bropricing and acclaim with accolades like "he's been building supers for goons for ages, he must know what he's talking about, CCP don't just let anyone train capital ship construction V" just listed a nyx bpo on the goon WTS forums for 22b. Now nyx bpos were saturated precrius, the only utility of a nyx bpo is to eventually produce a nyx and if there are more nyx bpos in use building or printing copies than people want nyx built then you end up with excess copies depressing the value of the output of a nyx bpo. Before crius a researched nyx bpo would go for about 14b, despite npc being 18b. Crius tripled the copy speed of nyx bpcs and effectively removed the ability to build off of a nyx bpo so we now have three times the product hitting a market that was so saturated already that a nyx bpo with several years of research was worth less than the cost of buying a brand new one. Naturally the price of nyx bpcs went into freefall, from 250m or so precrius to 65m and still falling postcrius. A nyx bpo sold at npc price now represents something like a 15 year ROI, considerably worse than buying PLEX, tritanium, AT ships, t2 bpos, giving your isk to grendell, donating it to random noobs on r/eve in the hope of a grateful return later or a dozen other things. Basically a nyx bpo is the single worst thing to buy at that price in eve at the moment. However crius made it take much longer to achieve precrius research levels postcrius. This means that if some madman hypothetically did wish to buy a nyx bpo and then spend time and isk researching it then it would cost a lot and take forever. Firvain is trying to sell his for 22b. So the question is, is Firvain a complete and utter moron who has no idea how super bpos are valued and is completely unaware of the fact that they are publicly selling on the eveo forums well below what he charges or is he brofucking people he hopes aren't aware of it? If he is brofucking he's overcharging by, in my opinion, at least 100%. "I want to sell you a factory" "Okay, how many units do you sell a day and what is your profit on them?" "Well you'll be pleased to learn that we recently tripled our output" "That's great" "Well, unfortunately there were enough factories to meet the demand before that happened, and every single one of them tripled their output too" "I see, so you're trying to tell me that you can't actually sell what this factory produces" "Well no, not as such, not unless demand more than tripled and even then only after the backlog was cleared. Until then our only hope is that the competing factories, which are in every way identical to this one, realise that they're not making any money and stop producing. However given the cost of running production is basically zero that's unlikely to ever happen" "I see... This doesn't sound like a great investment" "Ah yes, but you haven't heard the price, you see if you were to build your own factory it would cost at least 18 units of currency, along with another 5 to train the workforce, I'm willing to sell it to you for just 22, that's less than the 23 it would cost you to build your own. Buying this for 22 represents a literal saving of 1 over buying it for 23 and therefore I am giving you 1 unit of currency" Normal response "I'm pretty sure I'd still have 22 less units of currency than if I just walked out of here" Goon response "I'll take 10, that way I'll have gained 10 worth" | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
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KwarK
United States44033 Posts
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Wild Things
United States42 Posts
I have enough faith in the intentions (not execution) of the CCP balance team to think that that's not shit-tier logic. They're both semi-competent pvpers, or at least were before they completely lost touch with their game. | ||
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Zavior
Finland753 Posts
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KwarK
United States44033 Posts
On October 05 2014 02:07 Zavior wrote: Just found roughly 200 genol ca1/2's splattered across roughly 50 different stations on my trade alt. God damn regionwide buy orders >_> Hashtag rich player things On which note I found a nyx bpo in a box that I had couriered to Jita a year ago and never opened last night. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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KwarK
United States44033 Posts
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On October 07 2014 01:38 KwarK wrote: So.... someone made a topic on the FA forums today mentioning that he felt the web lokis in our fleet were ineffective because they were limited by web range and never actually got to web any enemy ships. He proposed huginns or rapiers which have longer web ranges and might be able to web a hostile 80km away from our fleet. Someone else pointed out that web lokis, with their tiny sigs, crazy resists and ABs don't actually need to stay on the anchor at all times, in fact they can advance 70km ahead of the logis and still have reps giving an effective webbing range of 120km from our logi anchor. Minds were blown and there was a whole new discussion about whether lokis were able to leave the anchor, if there should be a second anchor for lokis to keep them from getting too far from the logi anchor and how to possibly keep them from being too far from point A while still being close enough to point B. I'm imagining the cute little 2-dimensional creatures of Flatland. Their scientists have recently discovered and proven the existence of some strange 3rd dimension, a myth that has penetrated their peoples' legends for millenia. Their concept of the world they inhabit is now forever changed. | ||
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intana
United Kingdom26 Posts
On October 07 2014 01:38 KwarK wrote: Minds were blown and there was a whole new discussion about whether lokis were able to leave the anchor, if there should be a second anchor for lokis to keep them from getting too far from the logi anchor and how to possibly keep them from being too far from point A while still being close enough to point B. After a number of wings of lokis are wiped out due to the inability to be close to point B whilst being near point A, a meeting of Very Important Space People will decree that only approved FCs are allowed to run with this comp, under the pain of SRP withdrawal | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 07 2014 01:38 KwarK wrote: So.... someone made a topic on the FA forums today mentioning that he felt the web lokis in our fleet were ineffective because they were limited by web range and never actually got to web any enemy ships. He proposed huginns or rapiers which have longer web ranges and might be able to web a hostile 80km away from our fleet. Someone else pointed out that web lokis, with their tiny sigs, crazy resists and ABs don't actually need to stay on the anchor at all times, in fact they can advance 70km ahead of the logis and still have reps giving an effective webbing range of 120km from our logi anchor. Minds were blown and there was a whole new discussion about whether lokis were able to leave the anchor, if there should be a second anchor for lokis to keep them from getting too far from the logi anchor and how to possibly keep them from being too far from point A while still being close enough to point B. Of course there was a discussion of that nature. You can't trust people flying in those fleets - they get crazy. "But the Lokis were off anchor!" "But I want to fly a Loki!" "I'm flying a Loki, so I can go where I want, right?" Obviously, there are those that can be trusted to not fly like idiots. Then there is everyone that isn't the FC. (Hyperbole for effect.) | ||
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Jayarr Altol
Serbia10 Posts
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