Now, I'm soon done with all my learning skills and really have no idea what ship I want to pilot. All I know is, I'd like to be somewhat useful in PvP, and be able to do those high-lvl missions eventually. ^_^

Jayme

United States5866 Posts

November 21 2010 20:00 GMT

#3646

On November 22 2010 02:43 TurpinOS wrote:

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you should also go tell them that were gonna drop a nyx next engagement....

Dude I'd they see a curse on the field or s pilgrim they know it had nuets lol.

TurpinOS

Canada1223 Posts

November 21 2010 21:55 GMT

#3647

On November 22 2010 05:00 Jayme wrote:

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Dude I'd they see a curse on the field or s pilgrim they know it had nuets lol.

Yes, the point was gaming on the fact that prior to ENGAGING us it wouldnt be on the field so they wouldnt have a clue... obviously once its there they know what its about

Jayme

United States5866 Posts

November 21 2010 21:57 GMT

#3648

On November 22 2010 06:55 TurpinOS wrote:

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Yes, the point was gaming on the fact that prior to ENGAGING us it wouldnt be on the field so they wouldnt have a clue... obviously once its there they know what its about

Seeing how they engage very cautiously I dont think youll have any element of surprise in that regard.

I don't think you lost much

pahndah

1193 Posts

November 22 2010 05:04 GMT

#3649

Its safer and easier to just warp in a curse if you want to do neuting. A pilgrim that needs to go within overheated scram range to do its job isn't exactly as useful as a curse that can do it outside of normal point range. Could always go with the time honored faction fitted heavy neut curse! Kizu approved.

MalVortex

United States119 Posts

November 22 2010 05:30 GMT

#3650

Pilgrims are terrible in gang combat. They are fat, slow, armor tank but don't have enough buffer for real RRing, and have ~12km engagement range. Use a curse. If you want cloaked scouting, a covops (or covert t3 tackler) does the job much, much better and much, much safer. A pilgrim running a proper gatecamp can be sketchy, and they compromise their fit to do combat probing.

Either way, neuting in gang combat is situational and only useful in certain situations. More DPS tends to work better as more DPS always scales, but it takes time to neut somebody out. Even then, most ships in gang combat are buffer tanked with no serious local tank, and if there IS a serious local tank, it will be cap injected and hard to shutdown. Curses are great ships, but neuting the primary or secondary is a total waste of time - you need to use it as an anti-tackle, anti-EW, anti-shenanigan platform.

Also, a single curse won't neut out a guardian/basilisk RR team - they simply generate too much cap, esp. if either pilot has logistics V. ECM and focus fire is the best bet if you need to get rid of them in a hurry - grab a falcon w/ pure jammers of the proper racial type, primary the one that's not jammed.

Thezzy

Netherlands2117 Posts

November 22 2010 07:59 GMT

#3651

As mentioned I fly other ships as well, I use my Pilgrim primarily for solo ops.
For DPS I could bring a Shield Harby with heavy pulse or a T2 cruiser, tacklewise I still got a Crow lying around somewhere.
I could fit an Armageddon with T2 Pulses, would probably dish out a lot of hurt.

Johnny Business

Sweden1251 Posts

November 22 2010 13:05 GMT

#3652

Needs more Neut geddons.

Thezzy

Netherlands2117 Posts

November 22 2010 13:07 GMT

#3653

Heavy neuts are fine too, no highslot left for RR then though.

pahndah

1193 Posts

November 22 2010 13:18 GMT

#3654

160k ehp heavy neut geddons are mean, great for station games and fighting on gates!

Edit: Where are you Revo. Faffy requires your aid! (In SC2)

bN`

Slovenia504 Posts

November 22 2010 14:06 GMT

#3655

Everything with a heavy neut is amazing. 24km range, takes 2 cycles to kill cruiser cap. Pretty much the best mod in the game.

Faffy even flies canes with heavy neuts so he can kill vagas and cynabals.

Heavy neut curse sounds quite fun as well.

pahndah

1193 Posts

November 22 2010 16:23 GMT

#3656

Canes so good, can even fit 2 heavy neut jajajaja

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34503 Posts

November 22 2010 16:24 GMT

#3657

EDIT: Nvm deleted.

pahndah

1193 Posts

November 22 2010 16:45 GMT

#3658

Minmatar is the race that is closest to where the TL corp bases out of.

Thezzy

Netherlands2117 Posts

November 22 2010 16:51 GMT

#3659

Hmmm, Minmatar space would be significant move (living in Amarr space), I'd probably have to leave my mission boats at the caldari or amarr border.
Even with Diplomacy, -4.97 is a bit tough to mission with.
Still, atleast I won't get shot at by NPCs.

If you guys want neuts I can trade in the Pilgrim for a Curse, or just get both.
Can probably neut a lot more than a Geddon, although it won't bring nearly as much DPS to the table.
Then again it can neut from miles away which has its uses.

Warri

Germany3208 Posts

November 22 2010 16:54 GMT

#3660

On November 23 2010 01:51 Thezzy wrote:
Hmmm, Minmatar space would be significant move (living in Amarr space), I'd probably have to leave my mission boats at the caldari or amarr border.
Even with Diplomacy, -4.97 is a bit tough to mission with.
Still, atleast I won't get shot at by NPCs.

If you guys want neuts I can trade in the Pilgrim for a Curse, or just get both.
Can probably neut a lot more than a Geddon, although it won't bring nearly as much DPS to the table.
Then again it can neut from miles away which has its uses.

if you need standings its np to tag along with other people and share reward until you have enough.