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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 17 2010 11:06 GMT
#3581
On November 17 2010 15:51 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 15:33 pahndah wrote:
Where were rigors =_=, IMO if you're going to die, die correctly.

Wow what the hell karah? I didn't look because I thought you knew better but capacitor safeguards? Why why why why? You shouldn't have even needed the cap booster anymore.

I bought it rigged and didnt bother to change them yet.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
November 17 2010 15:31 GMT
#3582
I'm a medical student with about 3-4 hours free every weekday night. Weekends I'm a lot freer.

Should I consider starting Eve?
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Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 16:51:10
November 17 2010 16:49 GMT
#3583
On November 18 2010 00:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm a medical student with about 3-4 hours free every weekday night. Weekends I'm a lot freer.

Should I consider starting Eve?


in eve skills train while logged off...
you can buy game time for $35- 60days, or buy with ingame money ~350m isk 30 day game time...
so 3-4 hours day + weekend is fine... imo.

i'll recomend you to create a 14 day trial account and get on "scbw" channel in game... play for a couple of days and then decide if you want a 21-day trial and continue playing...

also read the OP
Stork FAN!!!
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
November 17 2010 16:51 GMT
#3584
Ugh, as most of you know I left the Hatchery to try out some 0.0 stuff. I must say that reading about all you do together makes me wish that I come back. Currently I am sitting out in 0.0 doing absolutely nothing waiting for a op/call to war. Running around trying to do stuff solo is out of the picture because everyone you meet is in a 100+ drake gang.

I might switch back to you guys if you want. It isn't that fun out here.
Serious Business
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 19:56:57
November 17 2010 19:45 GMT
#3585
Firebolt, I was a med student when I started playing EVE and honestly is the only MMO you can play and feel that you are doing something. The only tricky part is finding a corp that has people around the clock.

Johnny no. We don't want you back stay in nullsec. Just kidding brah, you're welcome to join us anytime.

Finally...

Karah... I'm not really mad at you, I'm just disappointed.

Edit*: HOLY CRAP CCP IS BRINGING IT!
http://kotaku.com/5692084/this-isnt-character-creation-its-more-amazing-than-that
Part Time Ninja
Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
November 17 2010 20:05 GMT
#3586
finally i can recreate starwar character in eve =)
Being forgotten is worse than death.
Cheesedawg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States182 Posts
November 17 2010 20:47 GMT
#3587
So, looking to take a more serious shot at EvE, played for about 5 days a while ago, but got bored fast which was most likely attributed to kinda being on my own with no real form of guidance.

Just wanted to clarify a few things before I hopped in again, what exactly is evemon and what is it good for? Looking at the OP, am I basically going to do the training missions then train up to do Salvage? Will I have to do any major travel to get to where you guys are, that was one of the biggest turnoffs. Anything else major I need to now or anything that gets asked a lot?
Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
November 17 2010 21:23 GMT
#3588
On November 18 2010 05:47 Cheesedawg wrote:
So, looking to take a more serious shot at EvE, played for about 5 days a while ago, but got bored fast which was most likely attributed to kinda being on my own with no real form of guidance.

Just wanted to clarify a few things before I hopped in again, what exactly is evemon and what is it good for? Looking at the OP, am I basically going to do the training missions then train up to do Salvage? Will I have to do any major travel to get to where you guys are, that was one of the biggest turnoffs. Anything else major I need to now or anything that gets asked a lot?




Evemon: http://evemon.battleclinic.com/

'EVEMon is a lightweight, easy-to-use standalone Windows application designed to assist you in keeping track of your EVE Online character progression. You can view your current skills and attributes, what you're currently training, and your ISK balance. EVEMon can track multiple characters across multiple accounts, so all your alts can be monitored through the same, simple interface. "

And as long as you pick minmitar, you will start close to emol, where we are based. And going for salvaging only takes a few hours and nets you a lot of money. But to warn you, we are in the middle of a war, so getting the salvage, which cokes from missions people run, will be a little scarce.

12 gateways being thrown down, which is standard transition after the two observatory opening
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 21:29:26
November 17 2010 21:28 GMT
#3589
On November 18 2010 01:51 Johnny Business wrote:
Ugh, as most of you know I left the Hatchery to try out some 0.0 stuff. I must say that reading about all you do together makes me wish that I come back. Currently I am sitting out in 0.0 doing absolutely nothing waiting for a op/call to war. Running around trying to do stuff solo is out of the picture because everyone you meet is in a 100+ drake gang.

I might switch back to you guys if you want. It isn't that fun out here.

A deposit of 3billion isk in my account will get your your place back in the corp

(as if I really had a word to say in that )

Hope to see you back soon Johnny!!

On November 18 2010 05:47 Cheesedawg wrote:
So, looking to take a more serious shot at EvE, played for about 5 days a while ago, but got bored fast which was most likely attributed to kinda being on my own with no real form of guidance.

Just wanted to clarify a few things before I hopped in again, what exactly is evemon and what is it good for? Looking at the OP, am I basically going to do the training missions then train up to do Salvage? Will I have to do any major travel to get to where you guys are, that was one of the biggest turnoffs. Anything else major I need to now or anything that gets asked a lot?


Evemon is a program on which you can build skill plan, see how your character develops, etc. (The other very used program is EFT, which basically lets you import your skills on it so you can see what ships you can fit, their ehp/dps/etc etc.)

Both these programs are very handy to have if youre into checking out different ship fittings, how many times it would take you to get to fly some things, optimization of skills if you have a certain plan in mind, etc. They are not ''mandatory'' to play though, they are just fun tools to have if you like losing time on shits like that.

Basically, your first day in eve will revolve around you doing the tutorial (its boring but it really helps you get all the basics about the game) and training the basic skills to fly a rifter (or any other basic frigate and to salvage (you can fit all the basics in a single day). If you chose Minmatar as a race, you start off 6 or 8 jumps from our home base, chosing any other race starts you further. (Note, the difference between every race is frigate 2 for that race, which is a 1 hour train)

After that point you are pretty much free to do anything you want, right now were in a pretty big war though so odds are you will be doing more pvp then salvaging (not much people are running missions).

And yeah, just hop in scbw and ask for a mentor and ask any other questions you have there.

Everything else you NEED to know is in the OP.

(i got ninja'd )
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
November 17 2010 21:33 GMT
#3590
tooo slow
12 gateways being thrown down, which is standard transition after the two observatory opening
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
November 17 2010 22:11 GMT
#3591
On November 18 2010 04:45 Arhkangel wrote:
Firebolt, I was a med student when I started playing EVE and honestly is the only MMO you can play and feel that you are doing something. The only tricky part is finding a corp that has people around the clock.

I assume you graduated?

Will definitely consider it strongly once my computer comes back in 2 weeks.
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Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
November 17 2010 22:33 GMT
#3592
On November 18 2010 07:11 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 04:45 Arhkangel wrote:
Firebolt, I was a med student when I started playing EVE and honestly is the only MMO you can play and feel that you are doing something. The only tricky part is finding a corp that has people around the clock.

I assume you graduated?

Will definitely consider it strongly once my computer comes back in 2 weeks.


No, I switched majors after 2 years in. We can talk more about that in-game.
Part Time Ninja
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
November 17 2010 23:20 GMT
#3593
On November 18 2010 07:33 Arhkangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 07:11 Firebolt145 wrote:
On November 18 2010 04:45 Arhkangel wrote:
Firebolt, I was a med student when I started playing EVE and honestly is the only MMO you can play and feel that you are doing something. The only tricky part is finding a corp that has people around the clock.

I assume you graduated?

Will definitely consider it strongly once my computer comes back in 2 weeks.


No, I switched majors after 2 years in. We can talk more about that in-game.

I'm in my 3rd year though, hence the 3 or so hours free a night.
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
November 18 2010 00:07 GMT
#3594
Hmmm... I just activated my EVE account again today, after not playing for like half a year or more I think and I actually only played about 2months back then.

So I have some ISK, got a Hurricane (which is fitted less than optimal though iirc) but still... EVE is fucking hard. And since I have not been playing for that long - after not acutally playing for that long to begin with and all the StarCrafting and WarCrafting that has happened in between all my EVE knowledge got pretty much erased from my brain.

So I logged back in today and was freaking overwhelmed yet again... I remembered stumbling upon "some EVE thread" on tl.net a while ago which I didn't actually read since I didn't play at that time.

So I checked back today since I don't know anyone playing EVE at the moment, playing it alone is pretty pointless and teamliquid is awesome...

Basically what I'm trying to say is that I'm looking for a place to hang out, get my EVE knowledge back on track (not that I was ever that knowledgeable about it to begin with... ) and maybe do some PvP at some point.


Would The Hatchery be the place to go?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
arto
Profile Joined April 2010
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 01:46:15
November 18 2010 01:45 GMT
#3595
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere but http://www.isktheguide.com/ is amazing, 400 pages of eve goodness. Its pretty much a newbs guide to everything in eve.
Unstable87
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia226 Posts
November 18 2010 02:05 GMT
#3596
On November 18 2010 10:45 arto wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere but http://www.isktheguide.com/ is amazing, 400 pages of eve goodness. Its pretty much a newbs guide to everything in eve.


you sir are a god! ive only skimed this at my lunch break at work yet its filled in alot of gaps
FXOUnstable
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 18 2010 02:31 GMT
#3597
On November 18 2010 09:07 FliedLice wrote:
Hmmm... I just activated my EVE account again today, after not playing for like half a year or more I think and I actually only played about 2months back then.

So I have some ISK, got a Hurricane (which is fitted less than optimal though iirc) but still... EVE is fucking hard. And since I have not been playing for that long - after not acutally playing for that long to begin with and all the StarCrafting and WarCrafting that has happened in between all my EVE knowledge got pretty much erased from my brain.

So I logged back in today and was freaking overwhelmed yet again... I remembered stumbling upon "some EVE thread" on tl.net a while ago which I didn't actually read since I didn't play at that time.

So I checked back today since I don't know anyone playing EVE at the moment, playing it alone is pretty pointless and teamliquid is awesome...

Basically what I'm trying to say is that I'm looking for a place to hang out, get my EVE knowledge back on track (not that I was ever that knowledgeable about it to begin with... ) and maybe do some PvP at some point.


Would The Hatchery be the place to go?

sure why not, just join scbw
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 06:02:13
November 18 2010 05:47 GMT
#3598
Daily update.

Started the day with some drilling of the newer players, practicing jumping into gatecamps and nanoing off. The kind of stuff Dex wants us to do because he has a hardon for fighting massively outnumbered and winning. We got some cool fits going and with WP's maxed out claymore (so fucking sexy) we had ridiculous speed, sig radius and point range bonuses. Anyone who doesn't play eve and is reading this anyway I'll explain because I think it's pretty awesome that people are following what we do.
Nano = nanofiber internal structure which in turn means very quick turning and raised max speed for lower hull hp.
If you combine that with speed bonuses, reduced sig radius (slower to lock, harder to hit, lower damage caps on big weapons) and increased tackle range (stop them warping out and hit them with webs (slow them down) while staying out of their web range (and therefore never getting tackled cause they're massively slowed down before they get the chance to massively slow you down) and you've got some nice shit going on.
Then you add in the entire gang being shield tanked (way faster than armour tanked ships) and having a scimitar which shield reps amazingly and is near impossible to kill cause it has almost no sig radius naturally (even less with bonuses).

We're ridiculously fast, almost impossible to engage unless we want something to and able to trap and isolate anything that does engage us. And that's good.

Content that we had enough practice we started roaming around with hyey finally joining us in a fair sized ship but unfortunately we couldn't find any action for shit. We eventually ran into a smaller gang that tried jumping us, shot them up and killed a drake as they ran back to the gate and tried to escape. However in the confusion I'd apparently left a cane behind who was deaggressed but somehow 15k off gate and didn't make it back. He didn't explain the specifics to my satisfaction but it's not too terrible. However at this point I have VoV screaming something about a war target sleipnir on coms.

We headed back but by the time we got there the WT had docked up, been camped, broken out of the camp and was heading our way in a cynabal. We camped the gate and he jumped into us but he warped off before we could get a point. Fortunately we had an interceptor (who won't be named) waiting on the next gate with a point range bonus and a very fast lock speed, we had the guy. Unfortunately he was sitting at the wrong gate but I'll leave him to explain about that if he dares show his face :p.

The cynabal docked up and we camped him for a while. He said he was gonna get a fleet up (we were in a 8 man fleet and they had 15 online) and fight us but that never materialised. Some time later we noticed they were up to 17 online and sent a guy to go check out their home system and he reported 12 in local so we figured what the hell, we'd get a fleet going. 8 brave souls volunteered and we headed to their home. For a while they refused to engage (except an abaddon which kept undocking and redocking as we tore it up) but their numbers kept on growing, peaking at around 18.

We were gradually losing men including Caelum (<3 you how could you miss this?!?!) and hyey in our only battleship. However Dex logged on as hyey left and 6 of us all spammed corp chat telling him to get here asap. As he arrived they made their move. We had (I believe) 1 cane, 2 drake, 2 ruptures, 1 scimmy 1 claymore and a stiletto for the first fight. That's a t2 frigate, 2 cruisers, 1 t2 cruiser, 2 battlecruisers and 1 t2 battlecruiser to put them in order of size.
Against that they fielded (I believe) at least 4 battlecruisers and 3 battleships with a warpin on a cloaked ship that landed them all next to the scimmy. An early casualty was VoV in his stiletto who was surprised by just how fast the link bonuses made him when he threw himself at high speed into them like a bug on a windscreen. However the rest of us succeeded on dancing around near them, exploiting our ability to tackle them without being tackled and some ridiculously good repping from serg. Dex did a great job of FC too and we just calmly took them down one by one as we fluttered just outside their grasp. Their FC was the first casualty and after a few losses they started to break ranks and warp or redock and Dex noticed a maelstrom (battleship) was lagging behind. We immediately pounced right in and brawled it down with webs slowing it to a crawl and the scimitar negating all its damage. It did not make it back to the station.

So, we're feeling pretty good about ourselves after that fight, 4 kills for just 1 loss. I reimburse VoV 6m for his stiletto and we tally their losses at 330m. Yeah...

Unfortunately Karah has to go but Abom logs back in to replace him and Vice Noat and Bam are making best speed. We're docking up for repairs and shit and suddenly they go for it again. This time they're not messing around, they've got 3 tempests (battleship), another maelstrom (battleship), 2 hurricanes (battlecruiser), 1 harbinger (battlecruiser), 1 cyclone (battlecruiser), 1 myrmidon (battlecruiser), 1 vexor (cruiser), 1 stabber (cruiser), 1 thrasher (destroyer). They may have had more, I don't remember but that is the minimum they had. Evidently they've decided they're gonna fuck us up and everyone is in the biggest shit they can fly, I guess nobody told them that we were built for this shit.

Now as our FC we have Dex who doesn't really consider it a fair fight unless they have about 6 to 1 odds in fleet value and every ship in the fleet is built around the concepts that Dex wet dreams about. The FC simply takes control and every man in our fleet immediately knows that we've got this shit. The thrasher instantly goes down as we burn out, followed by the harbinger and then 30 seconds later the maelstrom. Their tempests can't hit us for shit and serg is repping us with ease. They can't hold points (jargon: warp disruptors, jargon: make not run away fast) on us because the long range points don't stop us using our ridiculously fast microwarpdrives to just move out of the point range and then warp and they can't get close enough for a short range point (which stops warping out and microwarpdrives). They're flailing around trying to catch leaves in a whirlwind while Dex plays puppetmaster in a permanent nanosogood orgasm. They eventually catch a rupture (cruiser) when Nou warps out on low hp and then comes back immediately at 0, eager to return to the fray but I can hardly blame him for that. However most their dps is concentrated on drones (think interceptors in bw) which is just bad (again think interceptors in bw). However I guess it makes sense because in this metaphor Stork was microing the carriers and you either shot at the interceptors or you didn't shoot at all because our fleet setup was the equivalent of playing on monty hall with carriers moving as fast as vultures. A vexor and a stabber explode shortly after the maelstrom and someone in their fleet sounds the retreat. Ships start warping off and the tempests deaggress within docking range of the station and dock up just before one dies. However a hurricane and a cyclone have ventured out a little too far and again the moment anything looks a little isolated Dex gives the order to brawl and we burst in for the kill. With the majority of their fleet dead and the surviving battleships torn up and docked it was simply an execution, any hostiles left on the field immediately put to death.

So, to the tally. 7 kills for 1 loss.
Nou asked for 15m reimbursement for his rupture which the corp happily fronted, they're gonna have more trouble fronting the 270m for their losses.

So overall 21m lost, 600m destroyed. We GFed (good fight) up in local cause we're all manner and shit and a few of them responded although most simply offlined. After scooping loot we just cruised on home.

Oh, Caelum, when you read this you might wanna mail them and ask them if they feel like reconsidering our demands. Also add in a demand for a 100m bonus for serg for being awesome.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
November 18 2010 05:57 GMT
#3599
A) I was the interceptor that failed on the gate. I was more angry about it than Kwark was because it was a retard mistake that I shouldn't be making after 6+ years of playing this game,
B) Im sick and tired of these asshole WTs fighting the moment I have to log off. I'm tired of it
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
November 18 2010 09:10 GMT
#3600
Oh god, that fight sounds so awesome. I'll just have to wait for an opportunity for me to get i such a fight as well. I've still only had one 8+ vs 8+ fight and that went pretty bad as far as i remember.
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