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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
July 18 2013 13:08 GMT
#32021
On July 18 2013 20:36 KwarK wrote:
Also I enjoyed this
[image loading]


can someone make that rocket a revenant and have voc intercept that? :O
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3632 Posts
July 18 2013 13:16 GMT
#32022
On July 18 2013 21:32 KwarK wrote:
Thoughts on this to replace suicide merlins in Karan fleets?
+ Show Spoiler +
[Rupture, test]

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
Large Shield Extender II

425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Navigation NN-603
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-703
Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Medium Projectile Turret MP-803
Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-903


641 heated dps with hail, 3.56k/s heated mwd with links, 600 dps tank, 25m.

gl tracking while running MWD
?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44448 Posts
July 18 2013 13:19 GMT
#32023
On July 18 2013 22:16 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 21:32 KwarK wrote:
Thoughts on this to replace suicide merlins in Karan fleets?
+ Show Spoiler +
[Rupture, test]

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
Large Shield Extender II

425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Navigation NN-603
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-703
Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Medium Projectile Turret MP-803
Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-903


641 heated dps with hail, 3.56k/s heated mwd with links, 600 dps tank, 25m.

gl tracking while running MWD

Confirming mwding while scramming at 0.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3632 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 13:27:36
July 18 2013 13:26 GMT
#32024
well yeah, that's why they would be in a suicide ship

idk, I just don't think its particularly reliable applied dps, and I have no idea how you're running Karan fleet anymore so maybe I'm not clear on where it shores up the weakness the oracles + nomens have
?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44448 Posts
July 18 2013 13:31 GMT
#32025
Karan fleet has no weakness aside from dreads. I just want it to throw into the thick of shit at like recons. Still, your assumption that tracking will be an issue is odd given it's got hail loaded and a scram.

On an unrelated note
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258105&find=unread

Silvanemrys tried the high risk high reward technique of the one sided buyout where the buyer decides he's bought out the toon for whatever price he says and sends the isk. Known to confuse the seller into accidentally concluding he's sold his toon and going along with it. Was not effective in this instance but good to see people still using it.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19269 Posts
July 18 2013 13:52 GMT
#32026
Medium turrets getting worked over. Beams getting less tracking, damage buffs all around.

HACs get 50% sig bonus on MWD plus some other changes
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3632 Posts
July 18 2013 13:58 GMT
#32027
On July 18 2013 22:31 KwarK wrote:
Karan fleet has no weakness aside from dreads. I just want it to throw into the thick of shit at like recons. Still, your assumption that tracking will be an issue is odd given it's got hail loaded and a scram.

On an unrelated note
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258105&find=unread

Silvanemrys tried the high risk high reward technique of the one sided buyout where the buyer decides he's bought out the toon for whatever price he says and sends the isk. Known to confuse the seller into accidentally concluding he's sold his toon and going along with it. Was not effective in this instance but good to see people still using it.

oh, I thought you were using it to intercept the 8200 m/s karan specials so it seemed like a very odd choice
?
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
July 18 2013 13:59 GMT
#32028
med rails got like a 40% dps increase, ExNI does 600 dps at 22+21 with antimatter

hac changes seem pretty boring, other than the cerb i don't like them much
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44448 Posts
July 18 2013 14:13 GMT
#32029
CCP Rise wrote:
VAGABOND - we are rolling the max velocity bonus into the base stats, and then replacing it with a shield boost bonus.
This has nice racial continuity and supports a play-style that has been emerging for the Vaga anyway as a close range active brawler

Please keep in mind that it can still be used exactly the same way that it always has been with virtually no change in performance.


This is the team that are reworking hacs.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 15:10:24
July 18 2013 15:08 GMT
#32030
On July 18 2013 22:04 TomatoShark wrote:
well that sucks no more winmatar :[ no more mach's being gud either I take it or asb command ships



worry not, machs are still kill death murder skrologh machines of murder
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
July 18 2013 15:35 GMT
#32031
On July 18 2013 23:13 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
CCP Rise wrote:
VAGABOND - we are rolling the max velocity bonus into the base stats, and then replacing it with a shield boost bonus.
This has nice racial continuity and supports a play-style that has been emerging for the Vaga anyway as a close range active brawler

Please keep in mind that it can still be used exactly the same way that it always has been with virtually no change in performance.


This is the team that are reworking hacs.


What the
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
July 18 2013 16:34 GMT
#32032
can you guys post a link to the changes?
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
July 18 2013 16:46 GMT
#32033
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=260029
unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
July 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#32034
What is a Karen fleet?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
July 18 2013 17:01 GMT
#32035
On July 19 2013 01:56 unsniped wrote:
What is a Karen fleet?

it is when you accept ECM into your heart and convert to the church of falcon.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
July 18 2013 17:41 GMT
#32036
g:"guys, ive found a 2k isk/lp conversion"
x:"2000 ISK/LP is not bad, but it's not great either and many other high sec corps have much better returns."
g:"@Anonymous: can you name any of these "better highsec corps"?
k:" It is tedious excelsheet work to figure out which items are good and which are not, so most people, probably about 99,9% just stick to the old .5 q>15 agents, which are in corporations that dont provide these special items."
g:"@Karrah: and in YEARS people were unable to figure out that SoE pays twice as good as Caldari Navy? Even I don't think they are that dumb."
random firebolt cameo:"Yes. Yes they were. Welcome to EVE."
g:""here are still items with more than 2k isk/LP and no im not gonna point them out." The quintessence of the troll: criticizing without giving any useful information."
x:"He is not trolling here. The reason he doesn't give information is because the only reason the items get more than 2k isk/hour is because few people know about them. The more people that know, the more supply there will be, and the lower the price."
g:"@Lucas: but his statement is pointless as it cannot be checked. It's like: "I know there are aliens in the planet, I've seen them, but don't tell you""

Confirm, no one can figure out the going conversion rates for items. I wonder how he found out about the 2k isk/lp conversion.
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 18 2013 20:01 GMT
#32037
Especially when there are sites listing all lp stores isk/lp ingame.
Serious Business
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
July 19 2013 02:11 GMT
#32038
CCP have gone full retard.

The HAC changes are for the most part, completely useless. They do nothing to fix the current HAC problems. The new Vaga, is going to be a fucking nightmare. The fastest cruiser in the game, now has an active tanking bonus. You ready for the proliferation of scram vagas? You can't run from them- they will catch you, and then they will hold you. Forever. Vaga's are unable to kite, due to the fact that AC's suck dick and cannot project. So the only sensible thing would be to make them brawling ships. Instead of you know.... Increasing fall off bonus to make up for the TE changes?

Also the cerberus- it has the potential to be one of the most deadly kiting ships, if only it was not slower than all of the T1 cruisers.

Did they even think through these changes at all?
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4222 Posts
July 19 2013 02:30 GMT
#32039
No, CCP has not gone full retard. They're catering to the masses, who don't understand how to do anything other than "approach" or "orbit 500".....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19269 Posts
July 19 2013 02:33 GMT
#32040
no

I thought you'd have figured out CCP has no idea what they are doing by now
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