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General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 07:33:45
January 10 2013 07:32 GMT
#28061
I don't recall exactly what the EFT number means but align time should be time it takes to accelerate to 75% of max velocity, the threshold for warp (or possibly to maximum velocity). If you actually cared about your acceleration number you can get a rough approximation by dividing your max velocity by the align time but note that it takes much longer to accelerate the last few percent to your theoretical max velocity.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 11:02:21
January 10 2013 10:34 GMT
#28062
+ Show Spoiler [prophecy] +
[Prophecy, new]

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Capacitor Battery II
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5


Shaqil's Speed Enhancer
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Repair Proficiency RP-903


1815m/s unheated with links, align time of 8.3, 56k tank with a 300 dps active tank, reflects neuts and nos, puts out some serious neuting itself and around 450 dps with hammers.

myrm does it better although less EHP and resist but more armour.
+ Show Spoiler +
[Myrmidon, test]

Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II
Large Capacitor Battery II
Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5


Shaqil's Speed Enhancer
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Repair Proficiency RP-903


5th low lets you do this
+ Show Spoiler +
[Ferox, test2]

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5


Shaqil's Speed Enhancer
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Operation SP-903


118k EHP, 300 dps passive tank, moves at 1789m/s with an align of 6.22s which seems crazy low but so pyfa tells me. That's actually going up in the patch because CCP but still.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 11:35:52
January 10 2013 11:07 GMT
#28063
All in all I don't like them, prophecy is probably coming out ahead though. It's getting its align time massively slashed while the rest get theirs increased.
I reckon post patch this will have an align of 6.7, second only to the cyclone. It goes 1963m/s already.
+ Show Spoiler +
[Prophecy, test2]

Small Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Capacitor Battery II
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb
[Empty High slot]

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5


Shaqil's Speed Enhancer
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Repair Proficiency RP-905


You know what, I've EFTed the new bcs to death, go cruisers unless they fix the harb's agility and speed.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
January 10 2013 11:33 GMT
#28064
On January 10 2013 20:07 KwarK wrote:
All in all I don't like them, prophecy is probably coming out ahead though. It's getting its align time massively slashed while the rest get theirs increased.
I reckon post patch this will have an align of 6.7, second only to the cyclone. It goes 1963m/s already.
+ Show Spoiler +
[Prophecy, test2]

Small Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Capacitor Battery II
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb
[Empty High slot]

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5


Shaqil's Speed Enhancer
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Repair Proficiency RP-905


does this thing have small armor rep on purpose?
I got honor. - Johnny Business
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
January 10 2013 11:36 GMT
#28065
On January 10 2013 20:33 Ueberlisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 20:07 KwarK wrote:
All in all I don't like them, prophecy is probably coming out ahead though. It's getting its align time massively slashed while the rest get theirs increased.
I reckon post patch this will have an align of 6.7, second only to the cyclone. It goes 1963m/s already.
+ Show Spoiler +
[Prophecy, test2]

Small Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Capacitor Battery II
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb
Dread Guristas Medium Graviton Smartbomb
[Empty High slot]

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5


Shaqil's Speed Enhancer
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Repair Proficiency RP-905


does this thing have small armor rep on purpose?

Yes, it gives a comparable amount to passive shield regen and a fuckload of spare grid for those highs.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 11:47:27
January 10 2013 11:39 GMT
#28066
Oops, I forgot the new prophecy only has 5 highs.
+ Show Spoiler +
[Prophecy, test3]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II

Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Hammerhead II x5


Shaqil's Speed Enhancer
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-905
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
January 10 2013 18:44 GMT
#28067
I'm really thinking I'm going to want to go Logistics ships... Only problem is my normal hours of play are in the middle of the afternoon when it seems few other people want to do anything.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 10 2013 18:45 GMT
#28068
Do we even use logi?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 19:08:31
January 10 2013 19:08 GMT
#28069
On January 11 2013 03:45 kollin wrote:
Do we even use logi?


No idea, but I'm a support type of player. Maybe electronic warfare type ships are legit?
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 10 2013 19:13 GMT
#28070
Yeah we need some Falcon's so you should probably train for that.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
January 10 2013 19:17 GMT
#28071
EVE is not like WoW where there is always need for healers/tanks, or specialised roles. In EVE, these specialised ships are only used occasionally when the fleet composition warrants it. Also, it is much safer and cheaper to learn to fly and pvp in core ships such as cruisers and battlecruisers, before jumping to logi/recon ships which are often the linchpin of the fleet.

Focus on training a core range of ships before diving into logi/recon/general t2 ships. Get into your cruisers and battlecruisers, fly with fleets often to become comfortable with what you are doing. Once you are comfortable you can jump into a well-trained t2 ship and it will be natural to you.
Moderator
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 19:19:22
January 10 2013 19:18 GMT
#28072
On January 11 2013 04:13 kollin wrote:
Yeah we need some Falcon's so you should probably train for that.


58 days later I can fly it, and not well at that... =D

On January 11 2013 04:17 Firebolt145 wrote:
EVE is not like WoW where there is always need for healers/tanks, or specialised roles. In EVE, these specialised ships are only used occasionally when the fleet composition warrants it. Also, it is much safer and cheaper to learn to fly and pvp in core ships such as cruisers and battlecruisers, before jumping to logi/recon ships which are often the linchpin of the fleet.

Focus on training a core range of ships before diving into logi/recon/general t2 ships. Get into your cruisers and battlecruisers, fly with fleets often to become comfortable with what you are doing. Once you are comfortable you can jump into a well-trained t2 ship and it will be natural to you.


Hard to fly with fleets when nobody is ever on when I get on.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
January 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#28073
As long as you can go out in groups of 3's and muck about, that is great practice already.

For many of us 'old schoolers' in Hatchery, we first learned to properly PvP when Kwark brought us to Aralgrund in small groups of 3-5, where we spent hours mucking about with pirates.
Moderator
unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
January 10 2013 19:30 GMT
#28074
Falcons are never to be used in our fleets, I will kill you on sight if you use one
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 10 2013 19:30 GMT
#28075
He's just angry because he can't fly one yet. Feel free to bring falcons to our fleets, also, if you can, neutral logi would be great too.
Galdo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States338 Posts
January 10 2013 19:38 GMT
#28076
Not sure if srs
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 10 2013 19:39 GMT
#28077
I never joke
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
January 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#28078
Feel free to form your own 3 man groups but I'd recommend t1 cruisers and dessies over falcons and logis.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#28079
What about an only logi fleet where we just tank damage all day while having tackle hold down the enemy ships until they get so bored they eject and pod warp off.
tooDARKpark
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
January 10 2013 20:00 GMT
#28080
On January 11 2013 04:54 kollin wrote:
What about an only logi fleet where we just tank damage all day while having tackle hold down the enemy ships until they get so bored they eject and pod warp off.


Exeq is actually legit for this sort of thing, with 50mb drone bandwidth. 10 dudes in these should be practically unbreakable by any gang of less than 20 and be able to field 50 Hammerhead IIs.
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