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pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
September 05 2010 20:41 GMT
#2581
On September 06 2010 02:17 Jayme wrote:
Help me.

I made an industry alt.

I am currently at a cross roads.

I wanted to train mining barge to 5 in the first 1.6mil. I tried to shave as much SP as i could to accomplish this. Currently i'll achieve this with 3k SP to spare. The issue is that i'll only have 14 perc and 13 willpower with which to train the skill.

Not too bad but I have 20 mem/int in comparison and at 100% skill training each attribute is worth 2x...so its like 40/40 compared to 28/26.

Ill need astrogeology 5 for Exhumers anyway...so I was thinking I could do a few things.

Either training mining barge to 5 anyway like my original plan but with less efficiency
Use a remap to max perc/will to soften the blow and just remap again later
Just train int/mem skills to make the most out of the 100% training time.

Mining Barge is x4, Astro is an x3


I would go for the more efficient method and get the learning done. It doesn't sound like you'll need the extra isk/character income anytime soon. Might as well make it a probing alt too while you're at it since IIRC the character sell/buy market people like their probe alts in case you ever sell it, and for scanning gravimetric sites. SP whoring4lyfe
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 05 2010 21:09 GMT
#2582
On September 06 2010 04:18 kuresuti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2010 03:45 Jayme wrote:
On September 06 2010 02:44 WiljushkA wrote:
unless you have an easy access to good 0.0, avoid mining like the plague

0.0 access is not an issue. Regardless it's going to be more for low sec and to keep my POS going. Im going to need it for the industrial skills as well, mining is just a logical extention

On September 06 2010 03:19 pahndah wrote:
Delete Indy Alt --> Train up a 2nd Caldari character and dual/triple box lvl 5's.


I can already solo level 5's with my rattlesnake, why would I dual/triple box?

Furthermore level5's aren't worth it unless I need some implants, I don't run them often.

On September 06 2010 03:37 kuresuti wrote:


Finish training the alt, ask one of the pricecheckers how much you'd get for it and what skills to train to get the price up fast, do that and sell the alt.

Some people make huge amounts of money just by making certain types of characters and selling them. The income isn't instant but it's safe money, and fairly passive.


This isn't about isk, I have plenty of isk.

This is about making myself more self sufficient.

So now that this is out of the way, what should I do skill wise.


If you have ISK, why are you trying to become more self sufficient? A character farm is a good way to become self sufficient, it's like Datacore farming except it requires a tad more work.


Because I need a POS alt.

It's my 4th char. It will be my 2nd character's bitch and basically perform the needed logistics to properly use a few capital ships.

When it's not in a jump freighter I want it to AFK mine in the backround basically. If I can get some minerals out of it may as well
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Viceorvirtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States273 Posts
September 05 2010 21:23 GMT
#2583
I was trying to rat in my little slice of lowsec last night and ended up warping in on a hound. Being in an artillary fit rupture and having no tackle whatsoever I decided to try to kill it. After spending half an hour chasing it around the system it finally got smart and decided to stay cloaked for a while. This gave me nothing to do but go back to ratting ofcourse.

While working on a few battlecruiser rats, the hound warps in and begins shooting at me. We then play a little game where i warp in, kill a rat, and warp out taking minimal damage from the hound. With only one rat left I warp in at range and land whith the hound inside of my optimal firing range, 2 volleys and a wave of drones later it warps out with 25% shields. I clean up the rats, loot and prepare to leave system when I notice a wreck on my outgate. Apparently the hound still had gcc when he warped away because he died to gate guns.

This brings me up to a total of 2 stupid hound pilots killed. Makes me wonder if there are any decent sb pilots out there.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43776 Posts
September 05 2010 21:37 GMT
#2584
We just missed a kill on a possibly tech two possibly battleship of possible faction that could have been using missiles maybe, but he didn't see any drones.

[21:17:45] s 070271 > got target here
[21:17:50] KwarK uK > where?
[21:17:51] s 070271 > scrambled
[21:17:54] KwarK uK > drag local
[21:18:02] KwarK uK > where are you!??!
[21:18:09] KwarK uK > come on man
[21:18:09] s 070271 > ruvas
[21:18:14] KwarK uK > omw
[21:18:16] KwarK uK > what's he in?
[21:18:18] KwarK uK > what's it called?
[21:18:27] s 070271 > kamokor gate
[21:18:34] s 070271 > hes owning me trying to warp
[21:18:40] KwarK uK > what's he in?
[21:18:48] KwarK uK > warping to you
[21:19:14] s 070271 > somethingt2 didnt get to see name
[21:19:58] s 070271 > im at ruvas vi moon10 station
[21:20:07] KwarK uK > so
[21:20:09] KwarK uK > total fail by you then
[21:20:14] KwarK uK > wouldn't tell me where you were
[21:20:15] s 070271 > indeed
[21:20:16] KwarK uK > what he was flying
[21:20:20] KwarK uK > what his ship name was
[21:20:25] KwarK uK > all you managed to do was get killed
[21:20:28] s 070271 > panicked
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
September 05 2010 21:40 GMT
#2585
On September 06 2010 06:37 KwarK wrote:
We just missed a kill on a possibly tech two possibly battleship of possible faction that could have been using missiles maybe, but he didn't see any drones.

[21:17:45] s 070271 > got target here
[21:17:50] KwarK uK > where?
[21:17:51] s 070271 > scrambled
[21:17:54] KwarK uK > drag local
[21:18:02] KwarK uK > where are you!??!
[21:18:09] KwarK uK > come on man
[21:18:09] s 070271 > ruvas
[21:18:14] KwarK uK > omw
[21:18:16] KwarK uK > what's he in?
[21:18:18] KwarK uK > what's it called?
[21:18:27] s 070271 > kamokor gate
[21:18:34] s 070271 > hes owning me trying to warp
[21:18:40] KwarK uK > what's he in?
[21:18:48] KwarK uK > warping to you
[21:19:14] s 070271 > somethingt2 didnt get to see name
[21:19:58] s 070271 > im at ruvas vi moon10 station
[21:20:07] KwarK uK > so
[21:20:09] KwarK uK > total fail by you then
[21:20:14] KwarK uK > wouldn't tell me where you were
[21:20:15] s 070271 > indeed
[21:20:16] KwarK uK > what he was flying
[21:20:20] KwarK uK > what his ship name was
[21:20:25] KwarK uK > all you managed to do was get killed
[21:20:28] s 070271 > panicked


This is why voice comms is important :/
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 05 2010 21:49 GMT
#2586
On September 06 2010 06:37 KwarK wrote:
We just missed a kill on a possibly tech two possibly battleship of possible faction that could have been using missiles maybe, but he didn't see any drones.

[21:17:45] s 070271 > got target here
[21:17:50] KwarK uK > where?
[21:17:51] s 070271 > scrambled
[21:17:54] KwarK uK > drag local
[21:18:02] KwarK uK > where are you!??!
[21:18:09] KwarK uK > come on man
[21:18:09] s 070271 > ruvas
[21:18:14] KwarK uK > omw
[21:18:16] KwarK uK > what's he in?
[21:18:18] KwarK uK > what's it called?
[21:18:27] s 070271 > kamokor gate
[21:18:34] s 070271 > hes owning me trying to warp
[21:18:40] KwarK uK > what's he in?
[21:18:48] KwarK uK > warping to you
[21:19:14] s 070271 > somethingt2 didnt get to see name
[21:19:58] s 070271 > im at ruvas vi moon10 station
[21:20:07] KwarK uK > so
[21:20:09] KwarK uK > total fail by you then
[21:20:14] KwarK uK > wouldn't tell me where you were
[21:20:15] s 070271 > indeed
[21:20:16] KwarK uK > what he was flying
[21:20:20] KwarK uK > what his ship name was
[21:20:25] KwarK uK > all you managed to do was get killed
[21:20:28] s 070271 > panicked


No vent on an op
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
September 05 2010 21:55 GMT
#2587
What can I say, first solo situation. I didn't realise i could get blown up by it so easy. So i warp scrambled it and started firing my auto,s. Then I noticed my shield dropping in steps of 1/4 to 1/3. I was looking at his profile while doing this and I was trying to find what ship it was. All i saw was a tier2 ship before I panicked after shields where going down rapetly. I engaged warp to the nearest alligned thing and got out with a missile coming at me and at 1/3 structure. 0.5 sec longer and i would have been death. The point where i was targeting to the point i was trying to warp out only took about 20-30 seconds while having to inform kwark where I was.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
September 05 2010 22:25 GMT
#2588
dont you give the new guys some bloody pre-made overviews?
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
September 06 2010 01:27 GMT
#2589
I can't give them my overview. My overview is very complicated to understand for a new pilot. That said Wil does have a point and we should do this soon enough.
Part Time Ninja
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
September 06 2010 02:22 GMT
#2590
If you want to save yourself some headache use this for overview creation.
s_side
Profile Joined May 2009
United States700 Posts
September 06 2010 03:57 GMT
#2591
On September 06 2010 07:25 WiljushkA wrote:
dont you give the new guys some bloody pre-made overviews?


^ This.

And for the love of baby Jeebus get a TS3 server.
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
September 06 2010 03:57 GMT
#2592
Wow, that is pretty good! Would had saved me some serious time a while back.
Part Time Ninja
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
September 06 2010 07:01 GMT
#2593
On September 06 2010 11:22 kuresuti wrote:
If you want to save yourself some headache use this for overview creation.


Woah, this is good.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 06 2010 12:34 GMT
#2594
...or you guys could read bulletins and alliance mails for the link to my overview. -.-
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
September 06 2010 13:25 GMT
#2595
So they surrended? what did tl get out of th war?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43776 Posts
September 06 2010 13:30 GMT
#2596
They haven't officially surrendered. Instead what we've seen is a lot of players leaving their corporations within the alliance (15 minutes then they're no longer WT) and a lot of corporations leaving the alliance (24 hours then they're no longer WT). The enemy alliance has lost about 1/3 of its members since we declared war on them, those being the most active 1/3. We've pretty much killed them. But don't worry, we're looking into ways to continue the war against those who surrendered until they pay up.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Shymon
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States620 Posts
September 06 2010 18:04 GMT
#2597
On September 06 2010 21:34 r.Evo wrote:
...or you guys could read bulletins and alliance mails for the link to my overview. -.-



revo's overveiw is love. use it.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-06 19:48:48
September 06 2010 19:47 GMT
#2598
On September 07 2010 03:04 Shymon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2010 21:34 r.Evo wrote:
...or you guys could read bulletins and alliance mails for the link to my overview. -.-



revo's overveiw is love. use it.


Seconded, Revo's overview has all the basic goodness you can want, and only requires a little bit of modification if any. (It left a little to be desired in the scanning/scouting department for me personally though, but no one likes to scout anyway)
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 06 2010 19:56 GMT
#2599
On September 07 2010 04:47 pahndah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 03:04 Shymon wrote:
On September 06 2010 21:34 r.Evo wrote:
...or you guys could read bulletins and alliance mails for the link to my overview. -.-



revo's overveiw is love. use it.


Seconded, Revo's overview has all the basic goodness you can want, and only requires a little bit of modification if any. (It left a little to be desired in the scanning/scouting department for me personally though, but no one likes to scout anyway)


The most fun I ever had in the game was scouting. Getting that initial exhilarating tackle or finding the bubble camp is a huge rush, ESPECIALLY if you manage to get away.

When I get my arm back I will volunteer to scout for ops all the time, I love doing it.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
shoutout
Profile Joined June 2010
United States105 Posts
September 06 2010 20:34 GMT
#2600
well im trying it out

see you guys in scbw
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