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Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
August 10 2012 22:05 GMT
#24441
On August 11 2012 02:02 Zavior wrote:
increased drone mwd speed would be cool for heavy drones though :3


It's a shame the maulus only got 20 bandwidth though.
Serious Business
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 10 2012 23:37 GMT
#24442
On August 11 2012 06:55 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 07:22 TheEmulator wrote:
On August 09 2012 07:13 Torte de Lini wrote:
2012.08.08 21:55:00

Victim: Torte DeLini
Corp: The Hatchery
Alliance: Team Liquid
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Rens
Security: 0.9
Damage Taken: 351

Involved parties:

Name: Sanata Ritic (laid the final blow)
Security: 0.50
Corp: EVE University
Alliance: Ivy League
Faction: None
Ship: Thrasher
Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II
Damage Done: 351



Big bully picking on people with rookie ships.


Isn't this a violation of their wartime SOP? They're supposed to dock up if a war target's in the system! Doesn't say anything about being in a capsule being an exception.

I'm sure there is a formal complaint form on their site, and from what I hear this is the kind of thing they take very seriously.


When I'm rich or super strong, I'll get him myself.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 00:08:36
August 10 2012 23:59 GMT
#24443
On August 11 2012 08:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 06:55 Lysenko wrote:
On August 09 2012 07:22 TheEmulator wrote:
On August 09 2012 07:13 Torte de Lini wrote:
2012.08.08 21:55:00

Victim: Torte DeLini
Corp: The Hatchery
Alliance: Team Liquid
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Rens
Security: 0.9
Damage Taken: 351

Involved parties:

Name: Sanata Ritic (laid the final blow)
Security: 0.50
Corp: EVE University
Alliance: Ivy League
Faction: None
Ship: Thrasher
Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II
Damage Done: 351



Big bully picking on people with rookie ships.


Isn't this a violation of their wartime SOP? They're supposed to dock up if a war target's in the system! Doesn't say anything about being in a capsule being an exception.

I'm sure there is a formal complaint form on their site, and from what I hear this is the kind of thing they take very seriously.


When I'm rich or super strong, I'll get him myself.


I just think it would be super-hilarious to use their own rules against them.

Edit: Torte, if you haven't read them, they're awesome (and useful to know since we're at war with them):

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wartime_Standard_Operating_Procedures

And who knows, he could end up on this list!!

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/The_Departed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
August 11 2012 00:11 GMT
#24444
On August 11 2012 08:59 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 08:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 11 2012 06:55 Lysenko wrote:
On August 09 2012 07:22 TheEmulator wrote:
On August 09 2012 07:13 Torte de Lini wrote:
2012.08.08 21:55:00

Victim: Torte DeLini
Corp: The Hatchery
Alliance: Team Liquid
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Rens
Security: 0.9
Damage Taken: 351

Involved parties:

Name: Sanata Ritic (laid the final blow)
Security: 0.50
Corp: EVE University
Alliance: Ivy League
Faction: None
Ship: Thrasher
Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II
Damage Done: 351



Big bully picking on people with rookie ships.


Isn't this a violation of their wartime SOP? They're supposed to dock up if a war target's in the system! Doesn't say anything about being in a capsule being an exception.

I'm sure there is a formal complaint form on their site, and from what I hear this is the kind of thing they take very seriously.


When I'm rich or super strong, I'll get him myself.


I just think it would be super-hilarious to use their own rules against them.

Edit: Torte, if you haven't read them, they're awesome (and useful to know since we're at war with them):

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wartime_Standard_Operating_Procedures

And who knows, he could end up on this list!!

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/The_Departed


My favorite part:

...members must not be impaired

"This means in PvP, you have one active account logged in, not multiple accounts you are splitting your focus across (for example an out of corp scout with another member in space with the fleet). Similarly, fleet members must not be tired and/or intoxicated."

I wonder if they piss test.
:)
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 11 2012 00:13 GMT
#24445
LOL not tired and/or intoxicated.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 11 2012 00:17 GMT
#24446
So when they lose to us, they can't blame about being intoxicated or tired.
I like how drugs (or their effects) are omitted.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
August 11 2012 02:24 GMT
#24447
On August 11 2012 09:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
So when they lose to us, they can't blame about being intoxicated or tired.
I like how drugs (or their effects) are omitted.


I'm sure if someone showed up in fleet while high on PCP they would probably be regarded as "intoxicated."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34500 Posts
August 11 2012 02:30 GMT
#24448
This discussion makes me miss chessur
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 11 2012 02:52 GMT
#24449
Are LP/Security quests worth doing?

I just finished the agent of military and his 10-sequential quests and now I'm wondering where to go next ^^
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 02:56:37
August 11 2012 02:56 GMT
#24450
No idea, I never did any of the tutorials. I don't think most people have.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 04:23:43
August 11 2012 04:21 GMT
#24451
So what's a good quest area? Everyone says "you can do what you want", which is true in nearly every MMO game. But the game isn't intuitive towards finding "something" worthwhile, it's a sandbbox, but it's a very big area with a lot of big empty space.

Quests give a lot of isk for me, 50k++, but appartently that isn't a lot. So it makes finding what's "productive" congruent to "do whatever you want" very difficult when you're alone.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
tmonet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 04:54:32
August 11 2012 04:52 GMT
#24452
On August 11 2012 13:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
So what's a good quest area? Everyone says "you can do what you want", which is true in nearly every MMO game. But the game isn't intuitive towards finding "something" worthwhile, it's a sandbbox, but it's a very big area with a lot of big empty space.

Quests give a lot of isk for me, 50k++, but appartently that isn't a lot. So it makes finding what's "productive" congruent to "do whatever you want" very difficult when you're alone.


you prolly just want to train for ninja salvaging? (unless they've nerfed it in the last two years rofl) dunno if there's something more lucrative isk / hr wise you can do in a frigate with low sp. google it then ask a corpmate for info if it sounds interesting, or just ask if you can follow people around doing missions (assuming anyone's in hisec missioning lol)

basically you'll need some sp / money to make more money doign missions
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Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
August 11 2012 05:24 GMT
#24453
On August 11 2012 13:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
So what's a good quest area? Everyone says "you can do what you want", which is true in nearly every MMO game. But the game isn't intuitive towards finding "something" worthwhile, it's a sandbbox, but it's a very big area with a lot of big empty space.

Quests give a lot of isk for me, 50k++, but appartently that isn't a lot. So it makes finding what's "productive" congruent to "do whatever you want" very difficult when you're alone.


If you're familiar with WoW at all, almost all missions in EVE are like doing repeatable quests. The story is always the same, you run the mission, and in 10 or 20 missions you're likely to see the same one again, even from a different agent or in a different system.

I recommended this earlier but I'll throw it out there again -- if you want to run what's basically the one non-repeatable story-oriented mission chain in the entire game (for beginners, at least) you may want to check out the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc. I think it's worth doing because it has some nice monetary and item rewards along the way and it gives you a very wide-ranging tour of all four empires in hi-sec.

My original post is here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88359&currentpage=1216#24309

As for other missions, they can be fun, some can be difficult depending on skills or ships, they definitely wind up repetitive, and they exist primarily to make money. You can locate them using the Agent Finder window (which, though I can't check right now, might be reachable from a button on the agent window when docked.) At first you will only be able to do Level I missions. Once you have done enough Level I missions for a particular faction, you'll eventually be able to do Level II for that faction, and so on. Level I missions require a frigate or destroyer, while level 2 missions require a cruiser, level 3 work best with a battlecruiser, and level 4 work best with either high skills and a well-fit battlecruiser or (preferably) a battleship.

So, use the Agent Finder to find a Level I security agent in high sec space and start blowing things up, if that's the direction you want to go. Friends can help, and if I see you on I'll offer.

There are other ways to do PvE than missions. You can run complexes, or "plexes," which you can find by scanning with your ship's scanner or using probes. (Sometimes the lowest level ones have beacons also.) These can be like missions but without an agent, or sometimes with an agent at the entrance, and usually with a small chance at either a high-end NPC spawn that drops something possibly valuable, or a bookmark to an additional plex you can't find otherwise called an "escalation" that can have such a spawn in it.

If you want something with more of a pvp flavor, you can take a head to low sec and run missions or plexes there (or just kill NPCs in asteroid belts, called "belt ratting.") I would not recommend doing this solo without having a nice long talk with your mentor or another experienced Hatchery member about how to protect yourself and maintain situational awareness while doing so.

Finally, remember that E-UNI people are everywhere, and no matter which of these things you choose to do, they can find you, so keep your eyes on your overview and be ready to warp out on a moment's notice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 11 2012 05:27 GMT
#24454
What is a mentor meant to do exactly? I was given a trial pass by Sheth or my friend Gimble, but Tofu helped with the money and ship. But other than that, I've just been asking around and people have been helpful!

That's for the long explanation! I've played maybe 12-13 games with the TL community and you guys are the most helpful (next to Tribes being second).
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Big Monkey
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom473 Posts
August 11 2012 05:48 GMT
#24455
I also miss Chessur Body. Hope he comes back the green fairy
I smell revival, dead bones coming alive again
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 07:05:16
August 11 2012 07:05 GMT
#24456
Fuck missions, especially lvl 1-3 missions. If you really want to do the SoE arc so you have something to do or for the novelty of it, go ahead but the money you will gain for it is basically nothing. You could also potentially find out how to make 150-200m/hr doing lvl 4 missions but that takes effort and requires at least a month of skill points.

Bug supply depot about faction warfare until someone starts to talk to you about it, you will start making 200m+ isk an hour from day 2 while semi-afk. I would help but I'm inactive for another ~2 weeks.
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Liebig
Profile Joined August 2010
France738 Posts
August 11 2012 07:12 GMT
#24457
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88359&currentpage=1191#23804

^This I think.
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
August 11 2012 07:48 GMT
#24458
On August 11 2012 16:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Fuck missions, especially lvl 1-3 missions. If you really want to do the SoE arc so you have something to do or for the novelty of it, go ahead but the money you will gain for it is basically nothing. You could also potentially find out how to make 150-200m/hr doing lvl 4 missions but that takes effort and requires at least a month of skill points.

Bug supply depot about faction warfare until someone starts to talk to you about it, you will start making 200m+ isk an hour from day 2 while semi-afk. I would help but I'm inactive for another ~2 weeks.


This is assuming that minmatar or amarr ever hit tier 5
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
August 11 2012 08:04 GMT
#24459
Yeah I wasn't pushing missions as a good long-term money answer, but more as something to try. I figured the novelty would make them interesting for a couple weeks while Torte learned more about the game and figured out what to do next.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 08:29:33
August 11 2012 08:24 GMT
#24460
On August 09 2012 07:13 Torte de Lini wrote:
2012.08.08 21:55:00

Victim: Torte DeLini
Corp: The Hatchery
Alliance: Team Liquid
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Rens
Security: 0.9
Damage Taken: 351

Involved parties:

Name: Sanata Ritic (laid the final blow)
Security: 0.50
Corp: EVE University
Alliance: Ivy League
Faction: None
Ship: Thrasher
Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II
Damage Done: 351



2012.08.11 08:21:00

Victim: Torte DeLini
Corp: The Hatchery
Alliance: Team Liquid
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Auga
Security: 0.4
Damage Taken: 404

Involved parties:

Name: Lynn Evotori (laid the final blow)
Security: -1.60
Corp: Born Imperialism
Alliance: Zombie Ninja Space Bears
Faction: Minmatar Republic
Ship: Merlin
Weapon: Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Damage Done: 404

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