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Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
July 23 2012 21:54 GMT
#23941
I'll open a trade window in Jita, totally legit bro you can trust me.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 23 2012 22:42 GMT
#23942
On July 24 2012 06:32 Rengas wrote:
So who wants to buy an Etana off me?


More interested in in a Cambion tbh
Serious Business
Rengas
Profile Joined July 2012
United States169 Posts
July 23 2012 23:17 GMT
#23943
On July 24 2012 07:42 Johnny Business wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 06:32 Rengas wrote:
So who wants to buy an Etana off me?


More interested in in a Cambion tbh


Truth be told pretty much everyone on our team wishes Cambions had been the first place prize!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14075 Posts
July 23 2012 23:21 GMT
#23944
You'd think that they'd allow you to chose what ship line you'd get to take home. Black ops logi sounds like a wicked ship though.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
July 24 2012 01:08 GMT
#23945
But the etana is michael bolton approved.
Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
July 24 2012 01:52 GMT
#23946
Wow. 3B for this

I'm sure if I find something for 4B it will have twice the SP.
Time is money, friend!
Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
July 24 2012 02:00 GMT
#23947
OMG! This one sold for 1.8B

And it has excellent name and portrait.

I think I now understand the buy low sell high char bazaar market.
Time is money, friend!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43464 Posts
July 24 2012 08:46 GMT
#23948
On July 24 2012 11:00 Boggler wrote:
OMG! This one sold for 1.8B

And it has excellent name and portrait.

I think I now understand the buy low sell high char bazaar market.

Two topics and he understands the bazaar. -_-
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34499 Posts
July 24 2012 08:56 GMT
#23949
I think he means he understands the concept of it, rather than fully comprehending every single tip and trick that can ever be pulled in them.
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Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#23950
No one understands the bazaar.
Serious Business
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
July 24 2012 09:33 GMT
#23951
You could almost say the way it works...is bizarre.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
July 24 2012 09:43 GMT
#23952
On July 24 2012 17:56 Firebolt145 wrote:
I think he means he understands the concept of it, rather than fully comprehending every single tip and trick that can ever be pulled in them.


Buy something cheap, sell it to someone else for less cheap. I understand!
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 24 2012 10:34 GMT
#23953
Just burned 500km from a acceleration gate while long pointed by a malediction who I barely could damage. While doing this a ishkur tried to warp to the malediction at 0 four times and landed at the acceleration gate 500km off four times.
Serious Business
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
July 24 2012 10:57 GMT
#23954
I should be able to be a Rifter for you guys tomorrow if you need me ^_^
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
July 24 2012 13:14 GMT
#23955
On July 24 2012 19:57 Silidons wrote:
I should be able to be a Rifter for you guys tomorrow if you need me ^_^

Train caldari frigate 3 instead of minny frig 3, and someone needs to update the op to reflect our switch to merlins.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
July 24 2012 15:21 GMT
#23956
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1684408#post1684408
Yes, Black Ops definitely need some attention; the main problem with them is the lack of role focus. Some (like the Redeemer or Window) are trying to achieve a purpose directly on the battlefield, similar with recons by having an electronic warfare or damage related bonus. On top of that, they also are trying to fulfill a fleet support role with their cyno capability, which is quite in contradiction with the previous one.

And they aren't great at both: their raw HP is quite lower than tech 1 battleships (and tech 2 resistance boosts aren't stellar either), have less turret and missile hardpoints than tech 1 counterparts and remain more expensive to run, which doesn't make them appealing for direct engagement purposes. They also lack autonomy in their support role, as they are quite short ranged, fuel hungry and this issue is amplified by their small fuel bay forcing them to rely on other ships to resupply frequently during an operation.

The current plan is to take one these two listed roles out of the Black Ops ship class and reshape them to do the remaining one well. If they are disruption ships using EW, they should have more presence on the battlefield for their pricetag. If they are support tools for surprise attacks and small gang movement into enemy space, then they should have the proper bay, range and tools to do so accordingly.

The role dropped out of the Black Ops would then be moved to a new class in the tech 2 battleship range to replace for the loss.

We acknowledge some entities out there are using Black Ops with great effect when backed up with the proper organization, structure and out-of-the-box thinking to make use of them in unorthodox situations. While we don't want to take that away, Black Ops should be more effective without such heavy commitment into them (a statistic query we ran at the beginning of this year shown there are more Titan than Block Ops pilot on TQ). They should be great force multiplier tools for small groups to take on larger ones by surprise, and should be able to do so relatively well without relying on a dedicated support structure.

So, when would this be coming out? Unfortunately, not for a while. As explained in the various blogs before, our current priority is to fix tech 1 ships as a whole before moving to more advanced hulls. That is because we need a solid frame of reference to rely on and compare hulls to before we can move to more delicate and complex ships, like Black Ops or tech 3 hulls.


Also don't forget this is just our long term plan for now, and things may change in the future. In all cases they are not forgotten, but will take time to get to.

Hope that helps!


Also, the pastebin for the mining barge changes
http://pastebin.com/frBc2muR
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
NathanEO
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany254 Posts
July 24 2012 16:56 GMT
#23957
I like the part where it says:
...a statistic query we ran at the beginning of this year shown there are more Titan than Block Ops pilot on TQ...
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 20:24:32
July 24 2012 20:24 GMT
#23958
The fully tanked skiff has just under 50k ehp (in game ehp from fitting window) now
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
July 24 2012 20:40 GMT
#23959
Way to buff bots, CCP.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
July 24 2012 21:35 GMT
#23960
Lets be honest - its pretty imba that a t1 destroyer can solo a hulk in highsec. In terms of reward:risk for the destroyer pilot, ganking is off the charts. Its not as if the majority of ganking was against bots anyway.
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