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kazokun
Profile Joined April 2008
United States163 Posts
May 12 2009 19:17 GMT
#581
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3256501
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3256604
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3256550
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3256521
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3256519

Are you fucking kidding, X-Trading? wow.
Who wants to be a dragon when you can be Anytime? - Fontong
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
May 13 2009 02:58 GMT
#582
The influence shows two systems in Querious switching back to KenZoku sov. Any word of a comeback?
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 13 2009 04:27 GMT
#583
I love this story.
TL+ Member
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
May 13 2009 04:42 GMT
#584
On May 13 2009 11:58 number1gog wrote:
The influence shows two systems in Querious switching back to KenZoku sov. Any word of a comeback?

Read my posts?
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
May 13 2009 06:57 GMT
#585
On May 13 2009 13:42 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2009 11:58 number1gog wrote:
The influence shows two systems in Querious switching back to KenZoku sov. Any word of a comeback?

Read my posts?

Yes but.... I thought the bleeding was limited to just the weekend? They lost a ton of towers in what seems to be the holy ground of the former BoB empire (I'm assuming this based on how many major conflicts revolve around 49), but the very next update talks about huge improvements in the day to day struggle. But then the very next day they lose sov in two more systems. Which prompted me to ask: what the hell?

I suppose the continued college crunch could be cited as the cause of the calamity (lawl alliteration), but with their leadership back in town, I thought it would go back to business as usual for the goons.
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 13 2009 21:32 GMT
#586
Damn CoH/CoX expansion is keeping H_B from updates
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
May 13 2009 22:11 GMT
#587
On May 14 2009 06:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Damn CoH/CoX expansion is keeping H_B from updates

My thought exactly.
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 00:22:04
May 14 2009 00:20 GMT
#588
Where can I go to get updated war information? I don't even play the game, but I've been following along for a couple months now. It's very interesting

Any help?

Edit: Is there is a resource out there for newbies like me who don't understand the complicated battle report data? Where does Mittani make his public posts?
MC Fighting!~
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
May 14 2009 00:31 GMT
#589
Human_Being makes a lot of fantastic posts on the City of Heroes fourm. A lot of the writing in the OP is his, I think. I'm pretty sure it's this thread:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=13027715&page=0&fpart=95&vc=1
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Khos
Profile Joined October 2008
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 16:07:10
May 14 2009 02:44 GMT
#590
On May 13 2009 15:57 number1gog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2009 13:42 Bill307 wrote:
On May 13 2009 11:58 number1gog wrote:
The influence shows two systems in Querious switching back to KenZoku sov. Any word of a comeback?

Read my posts?

Yes but.... I thought the bleeding was limited to just the weekend? They lost a ton of towers in what seems to be the holy ground of the former BoB empire (I'm assuming this based on how many major conflicts revolve around 49), but the very next update talks about huge improvements in the day to day struggle. But then the very next day they lose sov in two more systems. Which prompted me to ask: what the hell?


-49 is a center for major conflict simply because it is the gateway into another alliance's (Against All Authorities) region, so whenever -49 is threatened, AAA shows up to defend. So, it made an excellent place for the remains of BoB to regroup with major cover from AAA/SE/ROL. It had no value to the former BoB empire, and is only being used as a staging ground.
YellOw/EffOrt/Jaedong+
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
May 14 2009 04:43 GMT
#591
On May 14 2009 09:20 Phoned wrote:
Edit: Is there is a resource out there for newbies like me who don't understand the complicated battle report data? Where does Mittani make his public posts?

I've already posted my sources of info repeatedly:

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1054371

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/stats/
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 05:02:11
May 14 2009 04:55 GMT
#592
From the Dotlan stats page, I found the following kills which took place ~9 hours ago:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/OGY-6D/kills

This system has a Dyspro moon and is currently RAZOR sov 3.

Significant kills:
- Goons+Allies took down 1 POS (large control tower)
- Ken+Allies took down 23 carriers and a dreadnought

The caps mostly belonged to Goons and RAZOR, with a few Morsus Mihi and one from Zenith Affinity.

As much as I like to root for them, Goons are hurtin'.


Edit: there was also a big clash between Triumvirate and Mostly Harmless up in Fade. No caps were killed, though.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
May 14 2009 20:48 GMT
#593
And here are two more Mittani updates. Keep in mind that each update talks about the day before, so the caps lost on the 13th are mentioned in the update on the 14th.

5/13 Update

I pen this update while in a foul mood. While the last evening's efforts were positive, objectively speaking, a storm is gathering on the horizon. This weekend our enemies intend to blob up and have yet another 'big push' from Thursday through Sunday; if this morning is any indication, 8 goons will be there to stop them. What the ****, seriously.

In eurotime we lucked out because our enemies did nothing of consequence - they repped their towers, and apparently took some potshots at PL placeholder smalls, but no real strategic threat manifested. A Coven gang shot an alt-corp moon miner. That's about it.

In US time we did what we set out to do - we repped up our Q2 towers, we destroyed the 5:03 ROL tower in OGY, and we replaced PL placeholder smalls in Q2 with more GS larges. There was a ~good fight~ where Karttoon and Xttz repeatedly doomsdayed KenZoku, but it was a bizzare situation - goon titans were doomsdaying and not merely jumpbridging, but there were barely 70 goons in the us tz fleet.

PA-V lost its Sov4 status at downtime and will be spammed by KIA. Period Basis is almost done. That's the good news.

The bad news is that - perhaps because the Webway changed and no one knows where the **** our bridges are anymore - people aren't showing up on ops. If we don't change this trend ASAP, come Thursday we're ****ing hosed.


5/14 Update

"If we don't change this trend ASAP, come Thursday we're ****ing hosed."

~heh~

So we lost a carrier fleet with like 20 carriers yesterday because while we had capitals - lots of them - we had no support at all. So our additional reinforcement capitals couldn't save the first group, as they couldn't clear off the dictors to get a warpin. Our fleet was tackled, helpless, for half an hour, then it died. Fun times. This was in OGY, trying to kill a hostile tower coming out of rf.

At downtime, in response to Zapawork's major hurf-blurf post, perhaps 60 goons logged in. 250 RKZ invaded I1Y, downed the jammed within minutes of their arrival (having thoughtfully had the warpin setup) meaning that we didn't even get the thing gunned before it was down. Which means no Titan support.

Meanwhile, ZXJ - a bridge system to Period Basis - and MKD - a critical bridge link in Querious - were spammed by Frontal Impact and Executive Outcomes, respectively.

I1Y has 18 friendly larges, 1 medium and 19 small placeholders. There are 5 hostile larges and 15 empty moons. The small placeholders got reinforced so quickly that many weren't timed at all. While we have blocked out more than 51% in this high-mooncount system, it is vulnerable due to the temporary nature of any small tower.

We must rally and capture control or they're going to kite I1Y all day. The enemy has called an all-weekend op - which is what Zapawork told everyone in his thread - and they plan on obliterating I1Y and other Querious stations in one massive push.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-14 20:53:42
May 14 2009 20:53 GMT
#594
Right now (i.e. within the last 3 hours) there is fighting going on in two places:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/I1Y-IU/kills (Querious)
Goons+Allies seem to be losing this fight pretty badly.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/JTA2-2/kills (Etherium Reach)
IRC/ED are fighting it out with RA+Allies. RA is hoping to break sov 4 in this constellation. They already have 2 outposts and so they need 2 more systems to flip sov in order to break it.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
May 14 2009 21:03 GMT
#595
I thought IRC/ED already surrendered...
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
May 15 2009 03:01 GMT
#596
On May 15 2009 06:03 Try wrote:
I thought IRC/ED already surrendered...

Then RA got pissed and invaded ~48 hours later.
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
May 15 2009 05:50 GMT
#597
Goonfleet was up to 220 people in the gang tonight over 30-50 the past week.

I guess finals are over in the US. v0v
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
May 15 2009 07:01 GMT
#598
Follow-up:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/I1Y-IU/kills (Querious)
Initially it looked like Goons + RAZOR + Allies were getting pounded, but at some point they got reniforcements (mainly from PL and Sons of Tangra) and the losses became more even. Their opponents were KenZoku + AAA + Allies (so much for the theory of AAA being uninterested in anything beyond 49-). Ultimately, one carrier was lost by KenZoku.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/JTA2-2/kills (Etherium Reach)
Looks like IRC/ED got dominated in the end. Their opponents were mainly RA with some Lucky League, Ultima Ratio, and The Initiative.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
May 15 2009 09:52 GMT
#599
Thanks Bill for keeping us informed
11 years and counting- TL #680
Khos
Profile Joined October 2008
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 16:01:34
May 15 2009 16:00 GMT
#600
On May 15 2009 16:01 Bill307 wrote:
Follow-up:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/I1Y-IU/kills (Querious)
Initially it looked like Goons + RAZOR + Allies were getting pounded, but at some point they got reinforcements (mainly from PL and Sons of Tangra) and the losses became more even. Their opponents were KenZoku + AAA + Allies (so much for the theory of AAA being uninterested in anything beyond 49-). Ultimately, one carrier was lost by KenZoku.


The reason for AAA/etc being present there is that I1Y is a great midway system, with close proximity to empire links and R64 moons, as well as having a conquerable station. It has a lot of importance to both sides, so all allies are being called to form in that system. If this were some random system, you would see a lot less AAA/SE/ROL involvement.
YellOw/EffOrt/Jaedong+
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