On January 25 2012 16:27 Zidane wrote: Fraps today in Illum of my guildie and I Juggernaut Immortal Build
nice video. although in my eyes it is evident you havent played a tank in a pvp mmo before right? little things like backpedalling all the time rly hurt your character.
It's a habit I have from my experience in FPS and it's something I probably won't ever change.
People need to get over the backpedaling thing, it literally barely affects gameplay and is the fastest way to face an opponent up when you're inches from them. Most of the time I do it has no effect on gameplay.
If you're that adamant on it, go ahead and explain to me how it "hurts" the gameplay so much.
Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
Backpedalling, depending on the distance will cost you time. Hence the "keyboard turner" abuse MMO hardcore players will give people.
Simple example of it is this:1) Takes 1 second to backpedal into melee range of opponent again. 2) Takes 0.66 seconds to strafe into melee range of opponent. 3) Takes 0.33 seconds to spin camera / character angle round to opponent.
Not accurate / for every situation but its basically the way of it, Mouse camera turning > Strafing > Backpedalling, sometimes strafing can be a better option then camera realignment but never backpedalling, its simply a time-wasting restriction that can be bypassed so easily.
Also, as a sith assassin i get the added bonus of getting a free Maul from dumbass opponents who backpedal too, probably operative skills etc in there too that require you to be behind the target. Your giving (or passing up on) free extra damage for the opponent at times.
It doesnt make a huge difference, but it all adds up and can sometimes save your ass.
Also, keyboard turning 180 degrees is a gazillion times slower then camera realignment, but thats not what the discussion is on
lol people with their theoretical calculations. I am 100% positive in most situations backpedaling will allow you to face up opponents faster than turning your camera and strafing. In a game where your skills don't go off unless you are actually facing the guy, strafing does not help you nearly as much as you think.
turn camera .33 seconds + strafe .33 seconds or backpedal once for half a second
win.
See what I did there? It's all game dependent anything otherwise is dumb. I play at 200APM in bw and 120 APM in SC2 - high masters, and use screen scroll and rarely use hotkeys for separate control groups and I do fine being C+ and high masters borderline GM in SC2. People have different preferences and can make it work regardless of what you think is "efficient" in your own small little "single track" world.
Reading this hurts me. You post your movie, you get feedback how to improve and what you do?! youstart bashing.
Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
nice video. although in my eyes it is evident you havent played a tank in a pvp mmo before right? little things like backpedalling all the time rly hurt your character.
It's a habit I have from my experience in FPS and it's something I probably won't ever change.
People need to get over the backpedaling thing, it literally barely affects gameplay and is the fastest way to face an opponent up when you're inches from them. Most of the time I do it has no effect on gameplay.
If you're that adamant on it, go ahead and explain to me how it "hurts" the gameplay so much.
Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
Backpedalling, depending on the distance will cost you time. Hence the "keyboard turner" abuse MMO hardcore players will give people.
Simple example of it is this:1) Takes 1 second to backpedal into melee range of opponent again. 2) Takes 0.66 seconds to strafe into melee range of opponent. 3) Takes 0.33 seconds to spin camera / character angle round to opponent.
Not accurate / for every situation but its basically the way of it, Mouse camera turning > Strafing > Backpedalling, sometimes strafing can be a better option then camera realignment but never backpedalling, its simply a time-wasting restriction that can be bypassed so easily.
Also, as a sith assassin i get the added bonus of getting a free Maul from dumbass opponents who backpedal too, probably operative skills etc in there too that require you to be behind the target. Your giving (or passing up on) free extra damage for the opponent at times.
It doesnt make a huge difference, but it all adds up and can sometimes save your ass.
Also, keyboard turning 180 degrees is a gazillion times slower then camera realignment, but thats not what the discussion is on
lol people with their theoretical calculations. I am 100% positive in most situations backpedaling will allow you to face up opponents faster than turning your camera and strafing. In a game where your skills don't go off unless you are actually facing the guy, strafing does not help you nearly as much as you think.
turn camera .33 seconds + strafe .33 seconds or backpedal once for half a second
win.
See what I did there? It's all game dependent anything otherwise is dumb. I play at 200APM in bw and 120 APM in SC2 - high masters, and use screen scroll and rarely use hotkeys for separate control groups and I do fine being C+ and high masters borderline GM in SC2. People have different preferences and can make it work regardless of what you think is "efficient" in your own small little "single track" world.
Reading this hurts me. You post your movie, you get feedback how to improve and what you do?! youstart bashing.
Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
You must not be reading very carefully. I don't go out of my way to bash anyone. And it's quite the contrary, people trying to bash back pedaling which is so insignificant in the context of my gameplay that it makes no difference especially playing a TANK. The only time when not using backpedal would make sense to me is if you were RUNNING away from someone, NOT lining up shots to face an opponent. And as an immortal specced tank, I don't ever find a moment where this applies as it is counter intuitive.
If you feel that I'm bashing you then you need to stop being so sensitive. I am 'bashing' on elitist mmo players who think people who backpedal are inferior. Seriously some of you are watching the video and seeing some backpedaling and coming to dumb conclusions. It might not be you per say, but these are the people my posts are targeted at.
Backpedaling doesn't work at all. Taugrim (justin.tv/taugrim) taught me this and it has helped me a ton! The S button gives space to another ability :D
nice video. although in my eyes it is evident you havent played a tank in a pvp mmo before right? little things like backpedalling all the time rly hurt your character.
It's a habit I have from my experience in FPS and it's something I probably won't ever change.
People need to get over the backpedaling thing, it literally barely affects gameplay and is the fastest way to face an opponent up when you're inches from them. Most of the time I do it has no effect on gameplay.
If you're that adamant on it, go ahead and explain to me how it "hurts" the gameplay so much.
Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
Backpedalling, depending on the distance will cost you time. Hence the "keyboard turner" abuse MMO hardcore players will give people.
Simple example of it is this:1) Takes 1 second to backpedal into melee range of opponent again. 2) Takes 0.66 seconds to strafe into melee range of opponent. 3) Takes 0.33 seconds to spin camera / character angle round to opponent.
Not accurate / for every situation but its basically the way of it, Mouse camera turning > Strafing > Backpedalling, sometimes strafing can be a better option then camera realignment but never backpedalling, its simply a time-wasting restriction that can be bypassed so easily.
Also, as a sith assassin i get the added bonus of getting a free Maul from dumbass opponents who backpedal too, probably operative skills etc in there too that require you to be behind the target. Your giving (or passing up on) free extra damage for the opponent at times.
It doesnt make a huge difference, but it all adds up and can sometimes save your ass.
Also, keyboard turning 180 degrees is a gazillion times slower then camera realignment, but thats not what the discussion is on
lol people with their theoretical calculations. I am 100% positive in most situations backpedaling will allow you to face up opponents faster than turning your camera and strafing. In a game where your skills don't go off unless you are actually facing the guy, strafing does not help you nearly as much as you think.
turn camera .33 seconds + strafe .33 seconds or backpedal once for half a second
win.
See what I did there? It's all game dependent anything otherwise is dumb. I play at 200APM in bw and 120 APM in SC2 - high masters, and use screen scroll and rarely use hotkeys for separate control groups and I do fine being C+ and high masters borderline GM in SC2. People have different preferences and can make it work regardless of what you think is "efficient" in your own small little "single track" world.
Reading this hurts me. You post your movie, you get feedback how to improve and what you do?! youstart bashing.
Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
You must not be reading very carefully. I don't go out of my way to bash anyone. And it's quite the contrary, people trying to bash back pedaling which is so insignificant in the context of my gameplay that it makes no difference especially playing a TANK. The only time when not using backpedal would make sense to me is if you were RUNNING away from someone, NOT lining up shots to face an opponent. And as an immortal specced tank, I don't ever find a moment where this applies as it is counter intuitive.
If you feel that I'm bashing you then you need to stop being so sensitive. I am 'bashing' on elitist mmo players who think people who backpedal are inferior. Seriously some of you are watching the video and seeing some backpedaling and coming to dumb conclusions. It might not be you per say, but these are the people my posts are targeted at.
You are bashing in that post after saying your not bashing, get your facts straight.
I also wouldnt have deleted an entire post up there after typing out a reply to your bullshit, if you had not been bashing. Do what you like, you'll always be at a disadvantage, even in SC2/BW with your screen scrolling, Mr fuckin C+ Borderline GM Pro!
Nobody is "sensitive" but you - someone pointed out a flaw in the way you play, i provided evidence, you got all bitchy. Sensitivity doesnt really come into it untill you.
nice video. although in my eyes it is evident you havent played a tank in a pvp mmo before right? little things like backpedalling all the time rly hurt your character.
It's a habit I have from my experience in FPS and it's something I probably won't ever change.
People need to get over the backpedaling thing, it literally barely affects gameplay and is the fastest way to face an opponent up when you're inches from them. Most of the time I do it has no effect on gameplay.
If you're that adamant on it, go ahead and explain to me how it "hurts" the gameplay so much.
Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
Backpedalling, depending on the distance will cost you time. Hence the "keyboard turner" abuse MMO hardcore players will give people.
Simple example of it is this:1) Takes 1 second to backpedal into melee range of opponent again. 2) Takes 0.66 seconds to strafe into melee range of opponent. 3) Takes 0.33 seconds to spin camera / character angle round to opponent.
Not accurate / for every situation but its basically the way of it, Mouse camera turning > Strafing > Backpedalling, sometimes strafing can be a better option then camera realignment but never backpedalling, its simply a time-wasting restriction that can be bypassed so easily.
Also, as a sith assassin i get the added bonus of getting a free Maul from dumbass opponents who backpedal too, probably operative skills etc in there too that require you to be behind the target. Your giving (or passing up on) free extra damage for the opponent at times.
It doesnt make a huge difference, but it all adds up and can sometimes save your ass.
Also, keyboard turning 180 degrees is a gazillion times slower then camera realignment, but thats not what the discussion is on
lol people with their theoretical calculations. I am 100% positive in most situations backpedaling will allow you to face up opponents faster than turning your camera and strafing. In a game where your skills don't go off unless you are actually facing the guy, strafing does not help you nearly as much as you think.
turn camera .33 seconds + strafe .33 seconds or backpedal once for half a second
win.
See what I did there? It's all game dependent anything otherwise is dumb. I play at 200APM in bw and 120 APM in SC2 - high masters, and use screen scroll and rarely use hotkeys for separate control groups and I do fine being C+ and high masters borderline GM in SC2. People have different preferences and can make it work regardless of what you think is "efficient" in your own small little "single track" world.
Reading this hurts me. You post your movie, you get feedback how to improve and what you do?! youstart bashing.
Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
You must not be reading very carefully. I don't go out of my way to bash anyone. And it's quite the contrary, people trying to bash back pedaling which is so insignificant in the context of my gameplay that it makes no difference especially playing a TANK. The only time when not using backpedal would make sense to me is if you were RUNNING away from someone, NOT lining up shots to face an opponent. And as an immortal specced tank, I don't ever find a moment where this applies as it is counter intuitive.
If you feel that I'm bashing you then you need to stop being so sensitive. I am 'bashing' on elitist mmo players who think people who backpedal are inferior. Seriously some of you are watching the video and seeing some backpedaling and coming to dumb conclusions. It might not be you per say, but these are the people my posts are targeted at.
You are bashing in that post after saying your not bashing, get your facts straight.
I also wouldnt have deleted an entire post up there after typing out a reply to your bullshit, if you had not been bashing. Do what you like, you'll always be at a disadvantage, even in SC2/BW with your screen scrolling, Mr fuckin C+ Borderline GM Pro!
You jelly I'm C+ borderline GM? Not to overuse an internet meme, but you sound pretty mad bro. And for reasons I can't understand. Shoot me a PM if you wanna 1v1 in SC2 or SWTOR if you have an issue with my SWTOR backpedaling or SC2 screen scrolling if you find issue with it and show me how much better your method is.
Oh and go ahead and quote where I "bashed" someone please. If you actually 'read' what I wrote you would see that I asked for an explanation and received someone calling me a "one track mind".
On January 26 2012 06:25 Capped wrote: Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
On January 26 2012 09:44 Narw wrote: Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
On January 26 2012 18:35 Capped wrote: Mr fuckin C+ Borderline GM Pro!
Yeah.. lol some of you are pretty mad because I said backpedaling is not a big deal and has little effect on gameplay. And go ahead and show me this "evidence" you provided thanks.
nice video. although in my eyes it is evident you havent played a tank in a pvp mmo before right? little things like backpedalling all the time rly hurt your character.
It's a habit I have from my experience in FPS and it's something I probably won't ever change.
People need to get over the backpedaling thing, it literally barely affects gameplay and is the fastest way to face an opponent up when you're inches from them. Most of the time I do it has no effect on gameplay.
If you're that adamant on it, go ahead and explain to me how it "hurts" the gameplay so much.
Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
Backpedalling, depending on the distance will cost you time. Hence the "keyboard turner" abuse MMO hardcore players will give people.
Simple example of it is this:1) Takes 1 second to backpedal into melee range of opponent again. 2) Takes 0.66 seconds to strafe into melee range of opponent. 3) Takes 0.33 seconds to spin camera / character angle round to opponent.
Not accurate / for every situation but its basically the way of it, Mouse camera turning > Strafing > Backpedalling, sometimes strafing can be a better option then camera realignment but never backpedalling, its simply a time-wasting restriction that can be bypassed so easily.
Also, as a sith assassin i get the added bonus of getting a free Maul from dumbass opponents who backpedal too, probably operative skills etc in there too that require you to be behind the target. Your giving (or passing up on) free extra damage for the opponent at times.
It doesnt make a huge difference, but it all adds up and can sometimes save your ass.
Also, keyboard turning 180 degrees is a gazillion times slower then camera realignment, but thats not what the discussion is on
lol people with their theoretical calculations. I am 100% positive in most situations backpedaling will allow you to face up opponents faster than turning your camera and strafing. In a game where your skills don't go off unless you are actually facing the guy, strafing does not help you nearly as much as you think.
turn camera .33 seconds + strafe .33 seconds or backpedal once for half a second
win.
See what I did there? It's all game dependent anything otherwise is dumb. I play at 200APM in bw and 120 APM in SC2 - high masters, and use screen scroll and rarely use hotkeys for separate control groups and I do fine being C+ and high masters borderline GM in SC2. People have different preferences and can make it work regardless of what you think is "efficient" in your own small little "single track" world.
Reading this hurts me. You post your movie, you get feedback how to improve and what you do?! youstart bashing.
Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
You must not be reading very carefully. I don't go out of my way to bash anyone. And it's quite the contrary, people trying to bash back pedaling which is so insignificant in the context of my gameplay that it makes no difference especially playing a TANK. The only time when not using backpedal would make sense to me is if you were RUNNING away from someone, NOT lining up shots to face an opponent. And as an immortal specced tank, I don't ever find a moment where this applies as it is counter intuitive.
If you feel that I'm bashing you then you need to stop being so sensitive. I am 'bashing' on elitist mmo players who think people who backpedal are inferior. Seriously some of you are watching the video and seeing some backpedaling and coming to dumb conclusions. It might not be you per say, but these are the people my posts are targeted at.
You are bashing in that post after saying your not bashing, get your facts straight.
I also wouldnt have deleted an entire post up there after typing out a reply to your bullshit, if you had not been bashing. Do what you like, you'll always be at a disadvantage, even in SC2/BW with your screen scrolling, Mr fuckin C+ Borderline GM Pro!
You jelly I'm C+ borderline GM? Not to overuse an internet meme, but you sound pretty mad bro. And for reasons I can't understand. Shoot me a PM if you wanna 1v1 in SC2 or SWTOR if you have an issue with my SWTOR backpedaling or SC2 screen scrolling if you find issue with it and show me how much better your method is.
Oh and go ahead and quote where I "bashed" someone please. If you actually 'read' what I wrote you would see that I asked for an explanation and received someone calling me a "one track mind".
On January 26 2012 06:25 Capped wrote: Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
On January 26 2012 09:44 Narw wrote: Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
On January 26 2012 18:35 Capped wrote: Mr fuckin C+ Borderline GM Pro!
Yeah.. lol some of you are pretty mad because I said backpedaling is not a big deal and has little effect on gameplay. And go ahead and show me this "evidence" you provided thanks.
Yeah come on guys, he's a sponsored member of s-key gaming, he's paid to play like that.
nice video. although in my eyes it is evident you havent played a tank in a pvp mmo before right? little things like backpedalling all the time rly hurt your character.
It's a habit I have from my experience in FPS and it's something I probably won't ever change.
People need to get over the backpedaling thing, it literally barely affects gameplay and is the fastest way to face an opponent up when you're inches from them. Most of the time I do it has no effect on gameplay.
If you're that adamant on it, go ahead and explain to me how it "hurts" the gameplay so much.
Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
Backpedalling, depending on the distance will cost you time. Hence the "keyboard turner" abuse MMO hardcore players will give people.
Simple example of it is this:1) Takes 1 second to backpedal into melee range of opponent again. 2) Takes 0.66 seconds to strafe into melee range of opponent. 3) Takes 0.33 seconds to spin camera / character angle round to opponent.
Not accurate / for every situation but its basically the way of it, Mouse camera turning > Strafing > Backpedalling, sometimes strafing can be a better option then camera realignment but never backpedalling, its simply a time-wasting restriction that can be bypassed so easily.
Also, as a sith assassin i get the added bonus of getting a free Maul from dumbass opponents who backpedal too, probably operative skills etc in there too that require you to be behind the target. Your giving (or passing up on) free extra damage for the opponent at times.
It doesnt make a huge difference, but it all adds up and can sometimes save your ass.
Also, keyboard turning 180 degrees is a gazillion times slower then camera realignment, but thats not what the discussion is on
lol people with their theoretical calculations. I am 100% positive in most situations backpedaling will allow you to face up opponents faster than turning your camera and strafing. In a game where your skills don't go off unless you are actually facing the guy, strafing does not help you nearly as much as you think.
turn camera .33 seconds + strafe .33 seconds or backpedal once for half a second
win.
See what I did there? It's all game dependent anything otherwise is dumb. I play at 200APM in bw and 120 APM in SC2 - high masters, and use screen scroll and rarely use hotkeys for separate control groups and I do fine being C+ and high masters borderline GM in SC2. People have different preferences and can make it work regardless of what you think is "efficient" in your own small little "single track" world.
Reading this hurts me. You post your movie, you get feedback how to improve and what you do?! youstart bashing.
Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
You must not be reading very carefully. I don't go out of my way to bash anyone. And it's quite the contrary, people trying to bash back pedaling which is so insignificant in the context of my gameplay that it makes no difference especially playing a TANK. The only time when not using backpedal would make sense to me is if you were RUNNING away from someone, NOT lining up shots to face an opponent. And as an immortal specced tank, I don't ever find a moment where this applies as it is counter intuitive.
If you feel that I'm bashing you then you need to stop being so sensitive. I am 'bashing' on elitist mmo players who think people who backpedal are inferior. Seriously some of you are watching the video and seeing some backpedaling and coming to dumb conclusions. It might not be you per say, but these are the people my posts are targeted at.
You are bashing in that post after saying your not bashing, get your facts straight.
I also wouldnt have deleted an entire post up there after typing out a reply to your bullshit, if you had not been bashing. Do what you like, you'll always be at a disadvantage, even in SC2/BW with your screen scrolling, Mr fuckin C+ Borderline GM Pro!
You jelly I'm C+ borderline GM? Not to overuse an internet meme, but you sound pretty mad bro. And for reasons I can't understand. Shoot me a PM if you wanna 1v1 in SC2 or SWTOR if you have an issue with my SWTOR backpedaling or SC2 screen scrolling if you find issue with it and show me how much better your method is.
Oh and go ahead and quote where I "bashed" someone please. If you actually 'read' what I wrote you would see that I asked for an explanation and received someone calling me a "one track mind".
On January 26 2012 06:25 Capped wrote: Backpedalling because of an FPS habit? dont be ridiculous O.o you have a one track mind if you can play two different genre's without habits overlapping.
On January 26 2012 09:44 Narw wrote: Be bad and backpeddle or actually rewamp your s key and adjust and improve your gameplay. Im sure that with such background in games and being such talented player you for sure think you are you can do such a small adjustment?!
On January 26 2012 18:35 Capped wrote: Mr fuckin C+ Borderline GM Pro!
Yeah.. lol some of you are pretty mad because I said backpedaling is not a big deal and has little effect on gameplay. And go ahead and show me this "evidence" you provided thanks.
Yeah come on guys, he's a sponsored member of s-key gaming, he's paid to play like that.
Do you realize how ironic your statement is? You're looking down on someone for backpedaling by being sarcastic that he's looking down on others.
To be very honest, I think NOT using backpedal at all when you're a meelee tank in this game is a mistake. It affords you the ability to quickly line up a target to face you so your skills actually go off and allows you to keep your positioning at all times, never having to have your backside open for a split second or having to re-position your camera for a slight movement.
If I'm 1 meter away from a force leap, why would I bother strafing and turning my camera, only to turn it back to get off the leap when I can hold S for half a second and instantly force leap without having to reface the target allowing my camera to be still the whole time as well.
Then again I'm just talking out of my ass right? Since the gods of PvP say it's a fact that no one should ever use backspace. And the gods of SC say no one should ever be screen scrolling.
On January 26 2012 19:16 Zidane wrote: Yeah.. lol some of you are pretty mad because I said backpedaling is not a big deal and has little effect on gameplay. And go ahead and show me this "evidence" you provided thanks.
In your vid at around the 1min mark I can see you backpeddling for your life to get a charge off. Instead of doing nothing but smashing the shit out of your charge button for ~5 secs you could have just used strafe and get your charge off much faster.
On January 26 2012 19:16 Zidane wrote: Yeah.. lol some of you are pretty mad because I said backpedaling is not a big deal and has little effect on gameplay. And go ahead and show me this "evidence" you provided thanks.
In your vid at around the 1min mark I can see you backpeddling for your life to get a charge off. Instead of doing nothing but smashing the shit out of your charge button for ~5 secs you could have just used strafe and get your charge off much faster.
No you are absolutely right on that part of the video. I could have afforded to strafe there and would have gotten the leap off faster. I agree. I am not saying backpedaling is better, I am saying it is situational and makes a lot of sense depending on the situation. In that particular instance, I underestimated the distance and guessed wrong he'd be coming right towards my direction and so yes, it was less efficient in that situation.
On January 26 2012 20:22 Narw wrote: You still dont get it do you? It's not situational, its just worse in every situation.
Just leave it, seriously -_- Narw, we've had an arguement in this thread before and he is waaay over the limit of what we can handle dude, for the sake of your sanity, drop it and let him backpedal his way into the sunset!
I don't backpaddle, but i still did not re-bind my S key to anything else, rarely do I use it. But it is more efficent when it comes to avoid being backstabbed, so any pvp "pro" saying you should unbind it is dumb.
So it is situational, try doing circular moves always facing away an operative trying to backstab without the move back key (S combined with strafe ofc), depending on your movement speed debuffs and his debuff/buffs, it's VERY useful to still have your S key bound.
Same goes for tank positioning, or if you are going to setup a knockback very precise, It is faster to use the move back key, so stop the wannabe pro bullshit, it is still useful, when not knocking someone back with precision i.e into a fire or when fighting something thats backstabbing its absolutely stupid though..
You are dumb. Backpeddling in a mmo is usually a simple retard check, aka if you cant adjust a simple thing in your gameplay to make it efficient why would i even waste my time playing with you. That's why you barely see backpeddlers at end game pvp high ratings in WoW, couse why would anyone want to play with someone who dosnt wants to improve?
Also stop putting theories it makes avoiding backstabs easiers lol. You backpeddling/rogue character strafe moving = now imagine who will be faster changing positions?!
On January 26 2012 20:46 Narw wrote: You are dumb. Backpeddling in a mmo is usually a simple retard check, aka if you cant adjust a simple thing in your gameplay to make it efficient why would i even waste my time playing with you. That's why you barely see backpeddlers at end game pvp high ratings in WoW, couse why would anyone want to play with someone who dosnt wants to improve?
Also stop putting theories it makes avoiding backstabs easiers lol. You backpeddling/rogue character strafe moving = now imagine who will be faster changing positions?!
You're an *****, you constantly rotate, with A/D-strafe + S due to the hitbox and the way it works in SW:TOR you'll never get hit. You will if you're not A/D+S rotating, however. You cant just strafe away, then all he has to do is do the same and either go 1 yard left or right. ******** ******* It quite clear you are just a mouth with lots of theories that does not really apply in the real game.
On January 26 2012 21:54 Zidane wrote: Thank god the mods cleaned up these self righteous god syndrome posers.
Dont see how you get off saying that, get the fuck off your high horse for a minute.
All i did was provide the "proof" you wanted. You proceeded to attack me like an insecure, immature child, which is still showing with this and past posts -_-.
I never mentioned anything about unbinding s key (who the f*** would do that anyway.) and as someone above mentioned it can be used in the right situations, just not in the fact of backpedalling for 2 seconds to get your target in front of you again -_-.
All i said was that your method of backpedalling was not as efficient as other methods and you took it like i slapped your mother. (The screen scrolling too.) Yes it works for you, Yes it does the job, can another method make things quicker / easier? yes.
About the one-track-mind, if you seriously cannot use different tricks / setups / methods of playing two different genres of games then fine. But saying "its an FPS habit" is like me talking to a child then to an adult and using the same voice, gestures and actions i would for a child purely because its "habit" to be talking this way - I use this example (other then the fact i work with kids :|) because its two different versions of the same "type" of thing, much like genre's in any given field.
Now i honestly dont care anymore what you think i was trying to get at, or how "elitist" you think i am, i dont care, i probably do it myself on occasion and was only trying to provide some reason as to how it might work better for you to do X. For gods sake never go into the strategy section, it will be filled with your "self righteous god syndrome posers" trying to give advice!!
-I speak for myself and no-one elses posts on this issue, Narw was out of line with his comments for starters.
Personally i enjoy the game playing PvP, cleared hard mode karagga's and EV last week, and unfortunately i dont see much point in farming PvE for gear.. Republic on my server (Scepter of Ragnos) got about 1/3 deficit on Ilum, and i havent found that too much fun. So me and my friends started to lvl Alts in low-lvl PvP and i find it absolutely amazing, maybe because i play a Sage and it's abit OP
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