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GTR
51451 Posts
GotFrag doesn't really help me on this since they usually upload the demos with 30 frags each half, nothing else really fancy after that. I'm usually a rifler, and play at B/Mid on D2, Banana on Inferno, Hut/Ramp on Nuke and Inside on Train (is that all you need to know?) | ||
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drakkon
Canada260 Posts
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meltdown
Sweden40 Posts
http://www.sk-gaming.com/cs/ | ||
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
GotFrag doesn't really help me on this since they usually upload the demos with 30 frags each half, nothing else really fancy after that. Gotfrag is a great source for HLTV demos. HLTV demos are better in general since you can follow everyone and go "in-eyes" anyway. (PoV demos do let you see rifle control better). Just search for - fnatic - mtw or noa (previous name of mtw) - mym or pgs (previous name of mym) - sk, roccat, mouz, etc etc on GotFrag's demo section. They will show a variety ways to cover your positions. Experiment to find the ones that suit your style. Remember when and where flashbags are thrown. | ||
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Texas
Germany2388 Posts
and yea, get experience on the maps (maybe start playing cbble as well); get used to the positions of your teammates and common spots of opponents (pred.-shots, he and stuff). u`ll need to know the most common maps by heart, where to stand, hide, shoot, how many seconds the opponents need to reach another spot, etc. when did u start playing cs? i've been playing for yrs already and still discover new strategies and stuff regulary. play against opponents who are better than u to see ur mistakes and their strengths | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
oh yeah and blah blah blah you're resisting change by not switching to CSS. *Boom* headshot | ||
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boss420
Cyprus109 Posts
it has every point of view/hltv demo from every other site including insider NiP/Sk.swe demos i offer lessons on cs, i used to them off of fpstrainers.com but now I just do private ones, I'll help you out if you want, the ping difference might be a little hard though ^__^ | ||
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boss420
Cyprus109 Posts
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
1. Get a good wired internet connection (T3 would be nice) with a gaming router hopefully counter-strike has it's ports forwarded 2. Great gaming rig with soaring FPS (200+ preferablly and that is easily done with a good dual core and an 8800 gt.) 3. Great gaming mouse i recommend the G9 for these FPS games http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104079 4. Claw hand position (look it up online) 5. Great mousepad 6. Very responsive monitor 7. and a lot of spare time i guess most of these things will just give you big advantages over your opponent at home | ||
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
Steelseries Ikari, MSI 3.0, Razer Deathadder, Logitech MX518 are the top choices atm. But in the end you have to decide what suits you best. I don't know how well versed you are with all these config things. -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel -freq 100 are standard as launch options. Try if it feels better for you with or without the cpl mousefix (I assume you are using XP) and switch your mouserate to something above 125 hz to get better accuracy. (I'm using 1000 hz but not all mice support it) If you are expert at all these things already, nevermind. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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GTR
51451 Posts
On July 22 2008 01:41 GunsofthePatriots wrote: Steps: 1. Get a good wired internet connection (T3 would be nice) with a gaming router hopefully counter-strike has it's ports forwarded 2. Great gaming rig with soaring FPS (200+ preferablly and that is easily done with a good dual core and an 8800 gt.) 3. Great gaming mouse i recommend the G9 for these FPS games http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104079 4. Claw hand position (look it up online) 5. Great mousepad 6. Very responsive monitor 7. and a lot of spare time i guess 1) how am i going to get T3 in australia, i am not made of money 2) you dont need 200fps to play a ten year old game, 100 fps is fine for me, thanks. 3) i already have a razerback and g9 is a crap mouse anyway 4) how is grip of the mouse going to give me an advantage? im fine holding it how i am at the moment. 5) already have a steelpad qck 6) monitor is fine | ||
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LumberJack
United States3355 Posts
Maybe i should hop on for shits and giggles | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On July 22 2008 06:42 LumberJack wrote: people still play cs 1.6? wow... i played it competitively for 3yrs, went a cpl and 22lans, i just assumed it died... Maybe i should hop on for shits and giggles CGS have killed CS 1.6 in America. But in Europe and especcialy Sweden/Denmark its stronger then ever. (Atleast second strongest period in Sweden, maybe the old school year of SEL and Rixhack were better) | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 21 2008 23:42 zgl wrote: A good start: lessons (in demo form): http://www.csgoodies.com/gbjames-cs-1.6-lessons/view-category.html jame^s is a fucking joke. GTR, my recommendation is to find a player with your style/position. You're simply not going to be able to emulate their consistent aim, but you can get a feel for how aggressive they are and some of the tricks they use. Get glass maps if you can, and practice wall spamming. Any set ups you do will come down to whoever you're playing with, so you have to let your teamates know what you're doing and what you want. After that, you just practice. I never really watched demos for anything besides strategy/tactics or to be impressed, so I'm not sure if it'll help. The best way I've found to help aim is by playing Q3 or UT2k4. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 22 2008 01:41 GunsofthePatriots wrote: Steps: 1. Get a good wired internet connection (T3 would be nice) with a gaming router hopefully counter-strike has it's ports forwarded 2. Great gaming rig with soaring FPS (200+ preferablly and that is easily done with a good dual core and an 8800 gt.) 3. Great gaming mouse i recommend the G9 for these FPS games http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104079 4. Claw hand position (look it up online) 5. Great mousepad 6. Very responsive monitor 7. and a lot of spare time i guess most of these things will just give you big advantages over your opponent at home CS caps at 100fps unless you have developer mode turned on, which will cause other issues. G9 is a crappy laser mouse. Get a MX518 or Razer OPTICAL mouse, depending on your preference of hand shape. CRT is best, you want to be able to run the game at 100hz. None of these things give you big advantages, however (besides the ping.) Anyone can adjust to shitty fps or a shitty mouse/monitor and play well/ | ||
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GTR
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GTR
51451 Posts
On July 22 2008 07:04 Jibba wrote: jame^s is a fucking joke. GTR, my recommendation is to find a player with your style/position. You're simply not going to be able to emulate their consistent aim, but you can get a feel for how aggressive they are and some of the tricks they use. Get glass maps if you can, and practice wall spamming. Any set ups you do will come down to whoever you're playing with, so you have to let your teamates know what you're doing and what you want. After that, you just practice. I never really watched demos for anything besides strategy/tactics or to be impressed, so I'm not sure if it'll help. The best way I've found to help aim is by playing Q3 or UT2k4. it seems one of my favourite players is Storm, he plays B on D2 sooooo well. who else would be probably good to watch? | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On July 22 2008 15:35 GTR-2-Go wrote: it seems one of my favourite players is Storm, he plays B on D2 sooooo well. who else would be probably good to watch? I would recommend Zet. A very agressive and insane CW/B holder | ||
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Lenwe
Netherlands757 Posts
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
And as always, f0rest (fnatic) and neo (mym) are very fun to watch. However, f0rest's style is very unique and difficult to emulate. Carn (fnatic) plays more standard, yet very smart, and is probably better watch to master the basics. | ||
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GTR
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
In general, current teams play more aggressive and faster than they did back then. Most teams will play 1-2 aggressive CT rounds to mix it up. For example, on inferno, smoke mid, and hide alt+window or flash and crush alt+window. Watch nuke demos from 2005 and compare with nuke demos now, huge change in playstyle. And oh yeah, don't forget Mibr. | ||
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Klapdout
United States282 Posts
On July 22 2008 06:42 LumberJack wrote: people still play cs 1.6? wow... i played it competitively for 3yrs, went a cpl and 22lans, i just assumed it died... Maybe i should hop on for shits and giggles I don't know how the competitive scene is doing for cs as I haven't played it competitively in ~4 years. but its still the most played fps game, css being second | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 22 2008 15:35 GTR-2-Go wrote: it seems one of my favourite players is Storm, he plays B on D2 sooooo well. who else would be probably good to watch? Storm is a good player to follow, particularly because his aim wasn't as good as most other CPL level players. And again, try playing Q3 to brush up on your aim. I don't know how the competitive scene is doing for cs as I haven't played it competitively in ~4 years. but its still the most played fps game, css being second CS:S is actually a far second. When you look at their total player counts on Steam, CS:S includes bot numbers. | ||
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boss420
Cyprus109 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
And I don't mean of the entire CPL obviously, I mean that upper echelon of CAL-i that actually had a chance to win CPL. I am/was definitely not in that group. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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TheMusiC
United States1054 Posts
On July 23 2008 06:32 EleanorRIgby wrote: lol storm doesn't have good aim.... lol l2read, he never said that storm "doesn't have good aim," he said that storm's aim isn't AS GOOD as some of the other top top players (and i actually agree with him here). | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
Look at storms frags NONE are sprays. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
CS 1.6 is probably one the most gear-dependant games out there. This is basicly what you MUST have in order to reach the top level: 100hz screen (CRT) A good mouse headset with good mic A good mousepad A decent comp(to handle all the smokes) A good internet connection (Lag affects gameplay so much more in 1.6 compared to other games) The screen part can be skipped.. but it will only take you so far.. i played TFT most of my time, which was from 1.3-1.6 and it definantly set some limitations as far as smoothness of the actual game and recoil pattern being random. There's a vast difference between 100hz and 75hz screen in CS. Beginners will not notice this, but experienced players will. Also, commands are crucial to get the most out of the engine and the game itself. Here are the most usefull ones: Sets up rates for online play: Rate 20000 cl_updaterate 100 cl_cmdrate 100 ex_interp 0.01 - The default value of this is 0.1 but that is not optimal for gameplay. ex_interp is directly connected with the cl_updaterate command, and will set it self to match that value. What interp does is that it controls how the characters look to the players when they move and where and how often the hitboxes update themselves to be correct. 0.1 = a bit nicer, more smooth movement, hitboxes are less exact 0.01 = not as smooth but hitboxes follow correctly and are exact. Fps: fps_max 101 Other: To show your fps/loss/chose info: Net_graph 3, to change position of it: Net_graphpos 1-3 | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On July 22 2008 01:41 GunsofthePatriots wrote: Steps: 1. Get a good wired internet connection (T3 would be nice) with a gaming router hopefully counter-strike has it's ports forwarded 2. Great gaming rig with soaring FPS (200+ preferablly and that is easily done with a good dual core and an 8800 gt.) 3. Great gaming mouse i recommend the G9 for these FPS games http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104079 4. Claw hand position (look it up online) 5. Great mousepad 6. Very responsive monitor 7. and a lot of spare time i guess most of these things will just give you big advantages over your opponent at home I totally agree. 1. You can find extra-responsive low latency LAN cards too for totally reasonable prices like $200, to go well with your $500/month fiber optic connection. 2. I tweaked my Q3 so that it always runs at 500+ fps. Otherwise it's basically unplayable. Same goes for CS. If it ever drops below 100 (like going 99 for a split second), you need to add some more video cards or at least drop all settings until everything looks like it's made of stacked boxes. Pros do that all the time. It's the ONLY way to roll in style. 3. Again, buy whichever is proer at the time. If you have the G9 and something insignificantly better comes along, you HAVE to throw your mouse away and get the new one. Can't let the competition get the best of you. 4. Also agreed, uncomfortable hand positions are the best. Whatever makes your hand feel like it's gonna get paralyzed, THAT's how you should use it. I've seen some russian gamers use their mouse sideways (no joke). 5. Anything over $50 will do. If you can't find anything over $50 just use a mirror or plain glass (mirror is better). 6. 2ms response time is A MUST. You can't just be waiting for your screen to change pixel coloring in 4ms, you'd be long dead by then. Long dead. Long. Dead. 7. Just stop hanging out with friends and/or girls, or studying and exercising, and you'll find that you have plenty of time left. Seriously though, look for replays of finals from different events like WCG, ESWC with teams like eMg, noa, SK, mym, Emulate, etc. There are bound to be replays somewhere. Youtube videos are usually crap, unless they're taken from serious games/tournaments. Take that solo guy for instance, his aim is pretty sick but there are some situations where the opponents are simply retarded. Not to mention that I have friends who are faster with the artic than he is. You can see his scope that's just newbish (lulz). | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
Why don't you watch Underground 1/2/3? No namers getting all ridiculous headshots. You'd think from watching that that they'd all have ridiculous aim, but they don't. The truth is everyone is capable of hitting those shots and the difference is the consistency at which they hit them. Zet, Warden, Sal, Method and a handful of other American players (zet at least played here) are at the top level. I'd even throw early Ksharp in that mix, I'm not sure how his stuff is in Source. Then there's other players who can show flashes of brilliance, like Storm, enigma, Mr. Keith Finklestein, elude and others. EDIT: So I actually did watch the movie and Storm is doing exactly what I'm talking about. He's got great spray (even great for CAL-i) and he's aiming at the upper chest and then using recoil control. But he's not going straight after heads, except in the pistol kills. You'll also notice that a lot of his nicer kills are against the cup cakes they faced. Aiming is easier when your opponents are worse, and it becomes a lot more difficult when you're playing a team like coL that can simply outreact you or know how to disrupt you. His highlights get fewer and fewer against top teams. Storm is one of those glue guys that makes the team better, but on raw talent alone he's on the bottom of their super impressive lineup. BTW I first played him when he was in AGENT and I thought they were all fucking cheaters. :x | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On July 23 2008 10:23 Jibba wrote: You're posting a shitty low quality (I have the real version) frag movie to prove your point? Why don't you watch Underground 1/2/3? No namers getting all ridiculous headshots. You'd think from watching that that they'd all have ridiculous aim, but they don't. The truth is everyone is capable of hitting those shots and the difference is the consistency at which they hit them. Zet, Warden, Sal, Method and a handful of other American players (zet at least played here) on at the top level. I'd even throw early Ksharp in that mix, I'm not sure how his stuff is in Source. Then there's other players who can show flashes of brilliance, like Storm, enigma, Mr. Keith Finklestein and others. That is not really the truth, CS 1.6 is alot about who you face, what team is on the other side. I've seen the Underground videos and i can say that most of those frags are made on players that are simply not good at the game. They have slow reflexes and they run bombsites like confused chickens, they lack aim and they lack game knowledge. Very few can even make a headshot vs ANY of the toplayers of cs 1.6 today, like players from SK, Fnatic, mTw, mibr.. you name it. The skill difference is just way too big. | ||
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Reflex
Canada703 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
Turn off vertical sync by going into your graphics card utility. I heard that helps. It helps with FPS issues, but I see no reason why a modern rig wouldn't be able to sit in the middle of 10 smokes with Vsync on and get 100fps.And again, those technical things aren't a must. They're nice and some players demand them for psychological bullshit, but you can adjust in most online settings without perfect fps/ping/mouse. It's like buying new shoes for pickup basketball. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
It's like sc you don't have to be A+ to tell the difference between players if you follow it enough. It's like saying Fakesteve shouldn't be allowed to to power rank because his skill level is insufficient. Storm is good at clutching 1vX situations. He's not known for his aim. Zet's aim is fucking ridiculous and as much as I hate warden he has really high percentage to hit his entry shots. Frod is just frod, arguably the player with the most impact [ all back when they played 1.6 ] Storm has a pretty nice USP, that's about the only weapon that he's able to keep up with I'd say. I mean honestly if you look at old spawn, potti, tentpole, f0rest, enemy, solo, archi [ the real one who played on eyeballers ] you can't say storm kept up consistently with that kind of aim. Storm was compared a lot to rambo, and again rambo is known for outsmarting and clutching, checking every angle and spot not for ridiculous aim. Whenever I play a game seriously I usually find out about it's ' pro scene ' and read about it in-depth whenever I'm not playing the game itself or try to improve my own game by watching replays. CS was really fun always played with irl friends. Anyway topic is kinda getting derailed but 1.6 is actually a game harder to run than most say it is. Especially now because of all the ads and bloatware shit they added. GTR, if you really wanna improve your game the best way is to play with people way better than you that you know 100% aren't hackers and ask them questions. Most people are glad to help and any honest cs player won't mind running around in a empty server teaching you spots and angles. Back when I was learning to play I felt that improved my game a lot more than watching demos. If you watch lots of frag movies [ I used to have 14 gb of cs frag movies lol ] make sure you watch good ones and the clips that show set up to frags. It's more important to understand why the frag happened [ reaction, angle set up, camp, team effort ] then just appreciate the frag. You also pick up some tricks that you wouldn't see in demos because usually demos are match situations where players either go crazy aggressive and die/get great opportunities or play super safe and check everything with no risk. Demos are great if you wanna learn to clutch, however. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On July 23 2008 10:23 Jibba wrote: BTW I first played him when he was in AGENT and I thought they were all fucking cheaters. :x LOL Back when I played CS competitively, I met storm when he was in AGENT , and thought he hacked his balls off too haha. My brother and him chatted for a month or so, and scrimmed together, but thats about it. My brother was actually a really good cs player during 1.3-1.5-1.6. I was uber jealous lol  | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 23 2008 11:27 eXigent. wrote: LOL Back when I played CS competitively, I met storm when he was in AGENT , and thought he hacked his balls off too haha. +1 | ||
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WorldCommunist8
United States226 Posts
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tiffany
3664 Posts
On July 23 2008 09:52 EleanorRIgby wrote: Well i have been following top cs teams for years and years now storm was col's second best awper (second to frod) and second to zet/warden in rifles. He can aim just as well as the others. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygd1plo2nJY Look at storms frags NONE are sprays. lol are you sure we were watching the same video? besides the reflex one deag ALL of his kills are sprays | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
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GTR
51451 Posts
it seems we have many tl.netters who have played at high levels! tifa, Bob and now Jibba and Ack :O | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Plus let's face it white boys got the FPS games on lock for the most part. I always thought Tiffany was the ' cs 1.6 ' guy here at TL simply because in the old threads he always knew what he was talking about and I believe he worked for gotfrag or dpad at one point. Shadowdrgn, that used to be the case until a couple years ago. Most competent/non-retards don't care about it anymore. In fact I switched over to source too and played it in CEVO with friends until our team couldn't put in time anymore. People just have to realize they are two totally different games. It's starting to become more like the starcraft and warcraft analogy. At first everyone looked down upon wc3 and it's still a running joke here at TL, but ask anyone seriously and they will say after starcraft, war3 is probably the best rts or that it's very well made. But also like starcraft I would say it's foolish to think source takes more skill than 1.6...In fact most people agree that 1.6 takes more skill. But again, they are two totally different games. Edit: Look at how css: promod failed. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On July 23 2008 10:17 CubEdIn wrote: I totally agree. 1. You can find extra-responsive low latency LAN cards too for totally reasonable prices like $200, to go well with your $500/month fiber optic connection. 2. I tweaked my Q3 so that it always runs at 500+ fps. Otherwise it's basically unplayable. Same goes for CS. If it ever drops below 100 (like going 99 for a split second), you need to add some more video cards or at least drop all settings until everything looks like it's made of stacked boxes. Pros do that all the time. It's the ONLY way to roll in style. 3. Again, buy whichever is proer at the time. If you have the G9 and something insignificantly better comes along, you HAVE to throw your mouse away and get the new one. Can't let the competition get the best of you. 4. Also agreed, uncomfortable hand positions are the best. Whatever makes your hand feel like it's gonna get paralyzed, THAT's how you should use it. I've seen some russian gamers use their mouse sideways (no joke). 5. Anything over $50 will do. If you can't find anything over $50 just use a mirror or plain glass (mirror is better). 6. 2ms response time is A MUST. You can't just be waiting for your screen to change pixel coloring in 4ms, you'd be long dead by then. Long dead. Long. Dead. 7. Just stop hanging out with friends and/or girls, or studying and exercising, and you'll find that you have plenty of time left. Seriously though, look for replays of finals from different events like WCG, ESWC with teams like eMg, noa, SK, mym, Emulate, etc. There are bound to be replays somewhere. Youtube videos are usually crap, unless they're taken from serious games/tournaments. Take that solo guy for instance, his aim is pretty sick but there are some situations where the opponents are simply retarded. Not to mention that I have friends who are faster with the artic than he is. You can see his scope that's just newbish (lulz). USE DSL over cable in terms of response dsl is usually low in ping (depending on distance) cable is constant and usually is higher (if you live in a city chances are dsl over cable) of course fiber optic connection is best speed of light >speed of electricity but most of us cant spend 500$ a month of course hell if you spend 200 of a lan card why the fuck not. Buy a good mobo (those lan cards more or less just do this but fuck nice mobo > nice lan card imo) hell mine off loads most of the Internet shit to my MCP which also free up my cpu. Also i can prioritize packets from certain programs Any frames over your refresh rate are dropped really you don't need more then your max refresh rate which even on the best crt is 120 Tape up your cords so they hang but don't get in your usual movement (makes the mouse feel less drag on a good mouse pad and a good mouse feels like your mouse is nothing) at lest with my mx518 which weights like a stock optical mouse (nothing) (my g9 is for work mostly macro ftw cuz it takes a special grip it favors claw (just using your fingers, most people use their full plam) and those who don't pick up mice also it's lazer mouse terms Optical > lazer its more accurate to fast movements also cs isn't played on large resolutions as far as i am aware if you buy lcd make sure you check for grey to grey response times 2ms is a must there (that is where most ghosting is) yes if you don't know ms is variants grey to grey off to on (black to white) low black to white is very good though it means how fast a pixel can change full spectrum and yes grey to grey can be slower then black to white buy lower grey to grey over black to white Buy a good head set one that doesn't feel like shit. *note* he never asked for advice like this so atlest give correct advise, not opinion basied | ||
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GTR
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Jibba
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
They usually update their site with new Demos from current events. I'd say watching demos isn't THAT helpful other than learning positioning and a few tips and tricks. The gameplay and aim comes from playing a whole lot and with a steady team. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 23 2008 16:34 IzzyCraft wrote: USE DSL over cable in terms of response dsl is usually low in ping (depending on distance) cable is constant and usually is higher (if you live in a city chances are dsl over cable) of course fiber optic connection is best speed of light >speed of electricity but most of us cant spend 500$ a month of course hell if you spend 200 of a lan card why the fuck not. Buy a good mobo (those lan cards more or less just do this but fuck nice mobo > nice lan card imo) hell mine off loads most of the Internet shit to my MCP which also free up my cpu. Also i can prioritize packets from certain programs Any frames over your refresh rate are dropped really you don't need more then your max refresh rate which even on the best crt is 120 Tape up your cords so they hang but don't get in your usual movement (makes the mouse feel less drag on a good mouse pad and a good mouse feels like your mouse is nothing) at lest with my mx518 which weights like a stock optical mouse (nothing) (my g9 is for work mostly macro ftw cuz it takes a special grip it favors claw (just using your fingers, most people use their full plam) and those who don't pick up mice also it's lazer mouse terms Optical > lazer its more accurate to fast movements also cs isn't played on large resolutions as far as i am aware if you buy lcd make sure you check for grey to grey response times 2ms is a must there (that is where most ghosting is) yes if you don't know ms is variants grey to grey off to on (black to white) low black to white is very good though it means how fast a pixel can change full spectrum and yes grey to grey can be slower then black to white buy lower grey to grey over black to white Buy a good head set one that doesn't feel like shit. *note* he never asked for advice like this so atlest give correct advise, not opinion basied It seems the tables have turned. edit: Btw, I got better pings w/cable than with DSL. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On July 23 2008 21:40 Jibba wrote: X3 vs NiP was in 1.3. i'm pretty sure it's not. 1.3 was when they start to change the bunny jump thingy... and the CPL was way before that. | ||
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SonuvBob
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boss420
Cyprus109 Posts
not many people really know what they are talking about, I've played with and against storm/warden/frod on lan a few times and storms definately the 2nd best aimer on coL to frod, without a doubt. I grew up playin games with corey tr1p dodd of coL/chicago chimera now, and he'll admit to you storms aim was better than wardens/sunmans/his. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 24 2008 06:16 haduken wrote: i'm pretty sure it's not. 1.3 was when they start to change the bunny jump thingy... and the CPL was way before that. In 1.1 bunnyhopping was super easy. In 1.3 it was a bit harder and you needed to use the mouse wheel, but it still existed. 1.3 was a better game than 1.1 anyways. 1.3 was released August 2001 and the X3/NiP match was that Winter CPL. not many people really know what they are talking about, I've played with and against storm/warden/frod on lan a few times and storms definately the 2nd best aimer on coL to frod, without a doubt. I grew up playin games with corey tr1p dodd of coL/chicago chimera now, and he'll admit to you storms aim was better than wardens/sunmans/his. I'm not talking about compared to tr1p or summy, I mean frod/zet/rambo. Warden has really become pretty incredible since joining coL. Here's the test- how well do you think he'd do in Q3? fatality made the transition based on pure aim, and there's a lot of players who can switch back and forth and be insane on both games (like ksharp.)[ultimate brag]Or I could just msg Rambo on aim and ask him (and he'd probably ignore me) [/ultimate brag] BTW we really need a movie thread to post the best FPS movies in. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 24 2008 09:04 Jibba wrote: BTW we really need a movie thread to post the best FPS movies in. So make one. :p | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
I actually quit SC to play CS and I kinda regret it, but it was fun at times. I was really competitive and I was even on a LAN team with friends and we played in local LAN tournaments. The highest I ever got was CAL-M/CEVO-IM, but my team died in 2006 after real life commitments. All I gotta say is that playing CS online is really random since people run around with default rates, which gives them lucky kills. CS on LAN is where it's at because rates and commands are locked and there's no lag, so the registration is at its best. The teams I would recommend watching: - mTw - fnatic - SK.swe - EG.USA - MYM - x3o - compLexity (before they switched to CS:S) - Team 3D ( same as above) - eSTRO - Lunatic-hai - wNv - X7-Hacker Players to watch: - enemy (Lunatic-hai) - mal (Lunatic-hai) - okju (Lunatic-hai) - solo (eSTRO) - Jungle (wNv) - Sakula (wNv) - savage (wNv) - f0rest (fnatic) - walle (SK.swe) - Get_right (clanless I think) - zet - mSx (emuLate) - Neo (MYM) - zonic (mTw) - Sunde (mTw) GotFrag = http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/demos/ ReadMore.de = http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=demo_overview | ||
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GTR
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On July 24 2008 17:33 GTR-2-Go wrote: Anyone here going to watch GameGune? I must say, pretty sucky names in the list though. I don't know much about Game Gun, but many high caliber teams aren't participating because of the low cash prize I think. The only good teams there is x3o, EG, Mousesports, and MiBR. | ||
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