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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 16 2009 20:40 GMT
#4021
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..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 17 2009 02:07 GMT
#4022
lmao man, touki denshou is so gr8
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
June 17 2009 02:20 GMT
#4023
For anyone who watched SBO quals @ denjin, Doing Ed Ma's whiffed air EX tatsu with akuma then land > ultra bait is the FUNNNNEST thing ever.

Did it yesterday and made me feel all good and pro inside.

Then proceed to get raped in the rematch T_T
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 17 2009 02:28 GMT
#4024
Haha, that bait sounded great. Too bad my stream froze both times he did it.

So what's the opinion on HDR where you guys live? Up here in Canada (Greater Toronto Area + Montreal), a large majority prefer classic ST over HD Remix. Furthermore, apparently the HDR Classic Mode is not arcade perfect, so serious ST will still be played on emulator or on Dreamcast.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 17 2009 02:34 GMT
#4025
On June 17 2009 11:28 Bill307 wrote:
Haha, that bait sounded great. Too bad my stream froze both times he did it.

So what's the opinion on HDR where you guys live? Up here in Canada (Greater Toronto Area + Montreal), a large majority prefer classic ST over HD Remix. Furthermore, apparently the HDR Classic Mode is not arcade perfect, so serious ST will still be played on emulator or on Dreamcast.


in the get-togethers we have once in awhile its generally HDR only for the fact that 1) we've gotten used to it 2) it looks better. not really good reasons i guess and the fact that its only really like 8-12 of us at these FG mini tournaments.

some small stuff on HDR does irk me thou. is it just me or is reversal easier on HDR? iunno..... rog is more or less the same i think in ST/HDR so yea lol
Forever Young
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 03:03:53
June 17 2009 02:57 GMT
#4026
On June 17 2009 11:28 Bill307 wrote:
Haha, that bait sounded great. Too bad my stream froze both times he did it.

So what's the opinion on HDR where you guys live? Up here in Canada (Greater Toronto Area + Montreal), a large majority prefer classic ST over HD Remix. Furthermore, apparently the HDR Classic Mode is not arcade perfect, so serious ST will still be played on emulator or on Dreamcast.

it's not arcade perfect? news to me. the only thing that bugs me is you can't get the classic backgrounds but its alright.

however, yeah I do like classic ST better than HD Remix. On HD remix, I do like having the safer cannon drills and this is one of the few cases where I think making a motion easier was reasonable (hooligan motion on ST I swear is harder to do than SPD) but I still prefer ST better. I like the removal of storing ochio throw (edit: at least I THINK they changed this, I actually haven't played non-garbage hondas on HD remix) and some of vega's walldive stuff, but I don't know. It's not the real ST experience without the hardass motions and the broken stupid shit like that. Almost like the game is for masochists and I'm a masochist?
I think it's just not worth messing with the game, the idea of it isn't bad, but at the same time it's like if someone tried to HD remix Starcraft. A bunch of new people would play it for a few months but it would kind of not really be something the old (real) community appreciates. people love ST, having a game that's almost ST and still a good game is just too bizarre to handle... can't think of a word, but its KIND OF like uncanny valley

also: i dont think the reversal timing is easier but the motions are definitely easier so reversaling is definitely easier by consequence... I could be wrong though.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 17 2009 03:23 GMT
#4027
Apparently in classic ST, the timing window between the first and last inputs for the game to register a DP is random. i.e. sometimes if you take 15 frames to do the whole motion, it will come out; other times, it won't. (The window was randomly between 12-17 frames or something like that.) In HDR, that window was changed to be fixed at whatever the largest value was (17). That would potentially make reversals easier to come out.

Some things just don't seem right about HDR. Well, first off, the HD graphics are ugly and look really awkward with the very low number of animation frames. And the music sucks. Seriously, many of the changes to special moves seem out of place in an SF2 game. Honda LP headbutt only going through fireballs, Blanka and T. Hawk rainbow roll and dive not bouncing back much on block, and Ryu fake fireball stand out the most IMO. I haven't played HDR much at all, though, but my sense is that the balance--ignoring Akuma--is better than in classic ST, but there are a few alien (unwelcome?) tweaks to the inner risk/reward payoffs and metagame.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 03:35:24
June 17 2009 03:35 GMT
#4028
On June 17 2009 12:23 Myrmidon wrote:
Apparently in classic ST, the timing window between the first and last inputs for the game to register a DP is random. i.e. sometimes if you take 15 frames to do the whole motion, it will come out; other times, it won't. (The window was randomly between 12-17 frames or something like that.) In HDR, that window was changed to be fixed at whatever the largest value was (17). That would potentially make reversals easier to come out.

Some things just don't seem right about HDR. Well, first off, the HD graphics are ugly and look really awkward with the very low number of animation frames. And the music sucks. Seriously, many of the changes to special moves seem out of place in an SF2 game. Honda LP headbutt only going through fireballs, Blanka and T. Hawk rainbow roll and dive not bouncing back much on block, and Ryu fake fireball stand out the most IMO. I haven't played HDR much at all, though, but my sense is that the balance--ignoring Akuma--is better than in classic ST, but there are a few alien (unwelcome?) tweaks to the inner risk/reward payoffs and metagame.


wow thanks for the added frame information
imo graphics are great but music could use some work. and yea some moves are funny mainly ryu's fake FB. but it does work once in awhile since u recover noticeably faster to DP and wht not. i just enjoy it mainly for the reason that its imo more balanced than ST and looks better.

still funn seeing sagat with a super meter in HDR thou ^^
Forever Young
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 17 2009 04:07 GMT
#4029
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
June 17 2009 05:52 GMT
#4030
On June 15 2009 02:39 SayaSP wrote:
Kosi I never see you online anymore wassup? Work?

Yeah work and I just moved. We should get some games in son!
Twitter: @KingKosi
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 17 2009 06:22 GMT
#4031
Harem: you didn't include the vid description.

(bellreisa) Forte: play me
(Forte) ok
(bellreisa) your mission is to make me use 2 moves
(Forte) ILL DEFEAT YOU AND BECOME HOKAGE
(bellreisa) yeah whatever ******
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 17 2009 16:07 GMT
#4032
Word Kosi we gotta get games in yo yo
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 17 2009 16:20 GMT
#4033
http://gamenyarth.blog67.fc2.com/blog-entry-4926.html?id=sm7355772

Tiger Knee.
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
June 17 2009 18:49 GMT
#4034
On June 18 2009 01:20 SayaSP wrote:
http://gamenyarth.blog67.fc2.com/blog-entry-4926.html?id=sm7355772

Tiger Knee.


O.O that was sick. Who all does it work on besides elf?

Also, posting to say that I'm on the front page of SRK. I'm the guy in the CJ Entus shirt
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 19:19:22
June 17 2009 19:19 GMT
#4035
On June 18 2009 03:49 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 01:20 SayaSP wrote:
http://gamenyarth.blog67.fc2.com/blog-entry-4926.html?id=sm7355772

Tiger Knee.


O.O that was sick. Who all does it work on besides elf?

Also, posting to say that I'm on the front page of SRK. I'm the guy in the CJ Entus shirt

oh yeah, Pozer and Jan went to that tournament D: Maybe I should have gone with, lol
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
June 17 2009 19:29 GMT
#4036
On June 18 2009 03:49 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 01:20 SayaSP wrote:
http://gamenyarth.blog67.fc2.com/blog-entry-4926.html?id=sm7355772

Tiger Knee.


O.O that was sick. Who all does it work on besides elf?

Also, posting to say that I'm on the front page of SRK. I'm the guy in the CJ Entus shirt


it works on everyone, you just have to time it pretty tight
GraphicsNo soy dominante, solo tengo mejores ideas...| Sorry Oshi, 4-1 shows that im better than you =D i wont do any more mistakes now
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
June 17 2009 20:33 GMT
#4037
I have to say, this shenanigan is the most interesting part of sagat's gameplay.
This is kind of sad.
And all is illuminated.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 17 2009 20:35 GMT
#4038
My EX2 finally "broke" yeaa time to mod stuff
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 17 2009 20:35 GMT
#4039
But it was also the only stick i brought to this house and im stuck here until like sunday oop aww
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 21:53:22
June 17 2009 21:52 GMT
#4040
Thx for sharing Mandalor. It's nice to hear good manner claps for a change instead of having to listen to a bunch of yelling savages
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
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