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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-31 23:19:49
May 31 2008 02:41 GMT
#361
Well, at least 3s is better than CvS2.

Justin Wong vs Steve H. from C3 last weekend:

+ Show Spoiler +





I totally agree with all those downsides to 3s. They are among the reasons why I prefer AHF over 3s. AHF has a looot more aerial mobility than most other games, too. E.g. in 3s, when you jump in, there's no turning back. (Which I guess is one of the reasons why 3s game is so ground-poke-based with so many characters.)

In defense of the game, though, part of the challenge of becoming a great 3s player, I believe, is learning how to mount an offense in spite of the threats of parries and pokes.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-31 02:45:13
May 31 2008 02:44 GMT
#362
On May 30 2008 11:44 Myrmidon wrote:
and Twinkle Star Sprites on 2DF

Time to replace my lost PS2-USB adapter and get on 2DF!

Edit: In fact, I'm going to install it right now and see what the latency is like.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
May 31 2008 03:20 GMT
#363
Hahahahah that video oh god
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-31 04:19:19
May 31 2008 04:13 GMT
#364
2DF seems to handle lag spikes a little worse than GGPO in my experience. I'm not sure if I can explain exactly how myself though.

I love how taunts actually have effects in 3s though. And Urien's Aegis. In fact, make that projectiles in general, especially projectiles that stay put and still eat up space after you've recovered and moved away. Probably why I play Jedah in VS and turtle too much for my own good, so I can spam those spinny saws.

Well, I'd say there's some good things about not having extra air mobility in the form of airdash/multiple jumps/homing/etc. and thus committing on every jump. Games with less movement options means greater certainty of where the opponent is going to be in the near future, with respect to current position. Since there's less options for the opponent, there's a greater emphasis on positioning rather than reflexes and baiting. What are the most popular air-happy games other than GG, AH, and--because it's based on an anime lol I guess or not?--MB? I think doujin fighters generally follow this trend? Or is it just most modern 2D fighters?

One subject I don't know much about is SNK fighters. Anybody any good at any of them? While it's true there's no airdash/double jump and thus committing on jumps (generally? I'm thinking KOF, LB, SS, FF, etc. from what I know), the presence of half-jumps (hops), dashes, and rolls (some cases) opens up a different kind of offensive game. It seems to me like half-height jump-ins are the standard, setting up fast deep hits into ground combos, although empty short hops into sweep or throw for mixup is also good.

edit: Oh yeah, an obligatory -_-/lol at that CvS2 match I suppose. Are all the upper-tier characters Capcom in that game? From what I've seen, Sagat, Blanka, Bison, Cammy look really good, but it seems people way way disproportionally choose Capcom characters. Or is it just that most people playing the game are Capcom fans and don't really know wtf a Rugal or Chang is?
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-31 07:19:12
May 31 2008 06:39 GMT
#365
My ass feels sore after Myrmidon raped me in Twinklestar Sprites >.O .

Edit: OMG I WON A GAME OMG OMG OMG! But then my client crashed after I exited, so I think the rep wasn't saved, heh.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 31 2008 07:23 GMT
#366
Possibly the most boring CvS2 video I have ever had the pleasure of watching, haha
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 31 2008 16:21 GMT
#367
Reps were saved!
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
May 31 2008 23:12 GMT
#368
Man Bill, I was watching a bunch of random JOYBOX vids and noticed that Love Zenia, Love Heart and Love Lilica have some pretty nasty beam super setups D:

This one in particular: + Show Spoiler +
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-31 23:19:32
May 31 2008 23:18 GMT
#369
Good shit. I like Lilica's setup the most, though, because she gets so much damage out of the whole combo.


Btw, I found this: IS MAHVEL BAYBEE

+ Show Spoiler [MAHVEL BAYBEE] +


thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 01 2008 00:19 GMT
#370
wow, Joybox doesnt appeal to me at all for some reason :O
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 01 2008 17:35 GMT
#371
On June 01 2008 09:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
wow, Joybox doesnt appeal to me at all for some reason :O

+ Show Spoiler +
Admittedly, I didn't watch beyond the 1st match in that vid... <_<
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-01 18:30:19
June 01 2008 17:56 GMT
#372
haha so maybe it was like giving someone that cvs2 vid as an example of how the game is (ie a bad one).

But it looks like GGXX except 10x worse

edit: apparnelty it's b/c of just the chars being used
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 01 2008 18:30 GMT
#373
On June 02 2008 02:56 thedeadhaji wrote:
haha so maybe it was like giving someone that cvs2 vid as an example of how the game is (ie a bad one).

But it looks like GGXX except 10x worse, and from a newbie perspective arcana heart looks better/more enjoyable it seems.

lol, it's actually AH2, the game that everyone prefers over AH1.

Quoted for preservation!
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
June 01 2008 18:31 GMT
#374
Record now stands at 15Wins/92Losses still hanging in there!
Twitter: @KingKosi
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 01 2008 19:13 GMT
#375
Bill, did you mention the differences between AH2 and AH1 before? I seem to recall something, but what can you say about the differences between the two in terms of characters, style of play, additional systems, etc.? Is there eventually going to be a pretty complete migration from AH1 to AH2?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 01 2008 23:00 GMT
#376
ohh right, I remember now about players bitching about AH1 -> AH2 for SBO qualifiers and shit.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14910 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-02 00:22:57
June 02 2008 00:22 GMT
#377
New Gamersvisions are up, lots of dudley play this time

Quarterfinals 1
Ru vs KSK
Tottori vs Youhei
+ Show Spoiler +




Quarterfinals 2
Kei vs Totsuka teacher
AFM v d
+ Show Spoiler +




Semifinals
+ Show Spoiler +

Ru vs Youhei
kei v D



3rd place and Finals
+ Show Spoiler +

youhei v d
kei vs Ru

thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 02 2008 00:28 GMT
#378
perhaps a little known fact.

Ruu used to be a yun main player. Why he went down in tier, i do not know.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 02 2008 01:24 GMT
#379
+ Show Spoiler [semifinal 1] +
1st game, 3rd round: wtf @ Youhei's wakeup ROUNDHOUSE at the end? o_O
2nd game, 1st round: Ruu wake-up EX shoryu no good. Lost the round for that. =/
2nd game, 3rd round: wow, NICE comeback by Ruu! I liked the attempted tatsu cross-up, although Youhei blocked it.

Didn't have many comments for the other games. (Or didn't feel like writing them down. )

+ Show Spoiler [winner] +
Kei played solid, but didn't really excite me. I enjoy watching Roshi or KO more.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14910 Posts
June 02 2008 01:35 GMT
#380
I found myself to be pretty bored by this set of matches
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