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SayaSP
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=152231&page=2#39 I'll copy and paste most of it here. Enjoy.  + Show Spoiler [the log] + We agree that sleep is high priority as we're leaving at 5:00am. I pop two Nytol around 9:00pm and by 10:30pm I'm completely knocked out. The alarm goes off at 4:30am and I feel pretty good about it instead of the complete zombie I was for EVO East. You'd be surprised how much sleep you get when Jiggabry and Gerjay aren't in your living room hammering on buttons and laughing about Marvel at random hours of the night instead of sleeping. Gerjay; you still owe me a chair from the one you broke last year thinking my dining room chair was a recliner when I have a reclining couch right behind you. Anyway, TOSF actually shows up on time (I was honestly shocked. Last year they were an hour late) and we can leave at a decent hour. The trip was pretty uneventful driving wise. We get in the van and after we got gas they all go to sleep. Well that's just fucking great. I mean I can't blame them, the majority of them stayed up the entire night so they didn't make Antoine late and Antoine himself stayed up all night and then drove across the GTA. I finally sucked it up and got a Red Bull for the first time in my life. GOD THEY'RE TERRIBLE! The smell is such a fucking turnoff. If it wasn't so tasteless I would have just chucked it out the window. Also, how long is the whole "keep you alert" effect supposed to last? I figured it worked for about 1/2 hour before I wanted to completely fall asleep again. Not a good thing. So we make it to the border and there's no one in any of the line ups (God bless early starts). Guard: "Where are you going?" Me: "Ashburn Virginia" Guard: "What's in Ashburn?" Me: Video game tournament Guard: ..... (every year I say this and every year the guard has no clue how to respond except at ECCIX where the guy was amazed and happy to talk about the very idea of competitive games). Me: ..... Guard: where? Me: Ashburn Guard: WHERE? Me: ..... Guard: .... Me: OH! ARCADE! C3! (make a note, no one in the van had a fucking clue what the hell the guard was getting at. In fact, aside from me, no one in the van knew the name of the venue). So he opens the van and the first thing he says to AdamB (our only brown rider) is "TAKE OFF YOUR SUNGLASSES!" UGH! It was like the beginning of a nightmare was about to happen. Amazingly he let us go without a hassle. I thought for sure with the bumpy conversation and him immediately gunning for Adam we were getting pulled to the side. We boot it out of the border and I immediately take the wrong exit (GREEEAAAT) but recover it nicely and there's no rage meter. So we drive for about five hours. The van was honestly silent for about four hours. The only time the silence was broken was me waking up Antoine to say "what's the next exit?" I don't know the last time I've been left with my thoughts that long but trust me it wasn't a good thing. Random things that popped in my head included: - The Power Rangers Dino Thunder theme song - Trying to figure out the lineage of the WWF/WWE World Title - Wondering if I should actually run T9. You ever have a debate with yourself? It helps if you're deleriously tired. I'm pretty happy that my rational side won (more on this later). So we stop in this random buttfuck nowhere town after five hours of driving for food. I think we'd just entered the state of Virginia or we were right on the border of Pennsylvania and Virginia because the accents had that southern drawl now. We all noticed that every state has a different accent but couldn't figure out why considering that some states basically just meld together. Anyway we walk into Denny's and know it's going to be a rough go of it. This guy, who I can only assume was on a work release program for the fucking stupid and/or handicapped was designated our greeter/waiter/whatever. He spends like five minutes looking for a table (I'm pretty sure he forgot he was getting us a table). Then we get a seat and he writes down our drink orders and... yeah. So ten minutes go by and he comes back and goes "someone threw away the paper with your drinks on it." That lie is right on the level of a fucking idiot like him. So he gets our drinks and then apparently subs out for this fat ass bitch with an attitude problem. *waitress takes our order and walks away* Bill: Excuse me but can I... *waitress ignores him and waddles away* Me: NO! *Waitress stops and 3 tables look at us. She comes back.* THE VOICE! Anyway Denny's is basically death. We all agreed that "The Meat Scramble" is instant death. 2 egg Omlette with bacon/sausage/ham mixed in and it's served with a side of 2 bacon, 2 sausage, and 2 ham. ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! Most of our breakfast conversation consisted of wondering how anyone in the US manages to stay alive past age 21. So everything is running smoothly until we actually get into the heart of Virginia. CUE THE RAGE METER! I knew something was going to fuck up when Google map directions called for a U Turn. Nothing good ever comes from directions that specifically state a U Turn is needed. So we get into this random town where this U Turn is supposed to happen but it's only 1 lane in each direction and traffic is through the roof. We look for whatever street I'm supposed to swing onto is and no dice. Justin: How long before we make the U Turn? Alex: 0.4 kilometres Justin: WE'VE BEEN ON THIS STREET FOR 10 MINUTES NOW! HOW LONG DO YOU THINK 0.4 KILOMETRES IS?! Alex: Sorry... I didn't see it. So we ask this old man who gives us a map drawn on like a napkin or something. He's full of insane wisdom because he managed to direct us to 2 Holiday Inn's instead of the one we needed. Anyway, I follow the map but of course take a horribly wrong turn and then I reached a new level of rage. We get off at the first exit to get back on the highway and IT'S GOT A TOLL! $2.60 JUST TO MAKE A U TURN! So I make the U Turn but didn't take the fucking ticket from the first toll. OH MY GOD! I JUST PAID ANOTHER $2.60! $5.20 TO MAKE A FUCKING U TURN! OH MY GOD! To say I freaked is an engrossing understatement. I was fucking livid at the rape I just went through. Then Alex decides to rib me constantly for the rest of the day about how everything I did wasn't as bad as paying $5 for a U turn. It was funny the first 5 times but after I while I basically told him to shut up. We FINALLY get to the hotel (again we needed help from random people on the street). Stephen notes that this is the nicest Holiday Inn he's ever seen. I walk in and they don't have my reservation. OH COME ON! Me: Look, I just drove 10 hours from Toronto. Guy: I'm sorry sir, but we don't have any Mr. Baisden on record Me: Does the Holiday Inn manage to lose reservations regularly? (what a dick) Guy: This is the Hampton Inn (thus explaining Stephen's thoughts) Me: ..... Guy: Good day sir (translation: you got fucking owned and I got the last word in) So we finally check in and get settled. It's lik 4:00pm now and whatever time we made up in great driving for the last 9 hours was shot to shit when we were basically 15 minutes away from the hotel. Ah well time for the tourney. Here's a picture of the "Meat Scramble" menu item that he mentions: http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1184/319meatloversscramblemegb1.jpg And here's what happened on our way from the hotel to C3, which he forgot to mention. (I wish my writing was as entertaining as his, heh.) After we left the hotel, we followed the directions to C3 but ended up in some random strip mall instead. As we're looking for the venue, one of us spots a giant C. Turns out to be an "ICe" skating rink (hurray for random capitalization). We continue driving around the strip mall and find a place called "C2 Education Centre". Unbelievable. So we stopped and asked for directions. In the end, it turned out the venue was only about 5 minutes from the hotel, but we spent 30 minutes getting there. | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
http://uwgamers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=785 Some of it is redundant compared to what I've already said here, and some of it is aimed at Canadians.  But there is also new stuff, such as my thoughts on my own AHF matches which are at the bottom of the post.Oh yeah, I don't think I've mentioned this here yet, but it looks like I've become the #1 AHF player in Canada. ^_^ (For now...) | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
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Kingkosi
United States1215 Posts
On May 29 2008 18:31 Bill307 wrote: Alright, I've FINALLY written up my own blog entry of sorts on the whole experience: http://uwgamers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=785 Some of it is redundant compared to what I've already said here, and some of it is aimed at Canadians. But there is also new stuff, such as my thoughts on my own AHF matches which are at the bottom of the post.Oh yeah, I don't think I've mentioned this here yet, but it looks like I've become the #1 AHF player in Canada. ^_^ (For now...) Damn man thats a good read sounds like lots of fun, I want to become a better 3's player, I started playing religiously and hopefully it will pay off, also going to play more Arcana Heart, I hate playing that game by myself (some of my friends laugh at the fact that it's an all girl fighting game) but I will play it more so I can get better and hopefully be able to beat the possible number one ranked AHF player in Canada  | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
GGPO CLIENT Come on boyz, it got updated to Beta version! It supports a large variety of emulated games, including 3s, st, alpha 2-3, garou, samurai shodown 2. The netcode is ridiculously good. | ||
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Kingkosi
United States1215 Posts
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
Edit: Good shit Bill, hope you get to go to more events and of course get better :D Those Catherine spins -> spin supers are so scary  | ||
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Kingkosi
United States1215 Posts
On May 30 2008 07:30 SayaSP wrote: Kingkosi is that your XBL rec? Damn I need that xbox version :| yeah it is it's now 7 and 75. The 360 dpad is disgusting it's so hard to be fluid. But I use Yun and Dudley those are my two best characters, I think I use Dudley better I prefer Yun haha | ||
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Scooter
United States747 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
What I see is very intense footsie mindgames play focusing extremely heavily on mix-up. Block strings should be as different as possible, and all approaches should be interspersed with throw setups and plenty of tricky crouch/uncrouch walks. Projectiles are worse than they are in almost every fighter out there. What dominates instead is unpredictable pokes (predictable pokes can be parried) which get hit-confirmed into supers for damage. Or in the case of some characters, poke into some non-super combo--actually, I'm not sure what some of the lower-tier characters do besides cry. Cornering the opponent is good because air juggling against the wall can rack up some nice damage; thus, knocking down opponent -> dash dash dash dash forward while they're on the ground to push them closer to corner is great. However, even if you have good positioning on the opponent, any attack attempted can be dangerous for you if parried. I certainly don't think all of the above is negative at all, but I did focus on some of my apparent complaints. There are definitely some other things I didn't mention I like about 3S. So what does everybody more informed than me see in 3S? On a side note, what are the differences between Garou's Just Defend and 3S parry? How does Garou play in comparison? If you can convince me about 3S, maybe I'll pick it up. As for now I play Vampire Savior on GGPO (some things I don't like about VS too though) and Twinkle Star Sprites on 2DF if you want to hit me up. I think I may be interested in learning Super Turbo and/or some SamSho (2? 5? idk), although I don't know too much about either (especially not much of any SNK fighter). I'm "Myrmidon" on both servers. edit: oh yeah, some nice matches in the tourney Bill. Sabin was in another couple leagues though lol. Rape only makes you stronger though. T_T | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I think it's perfectly reasonable for someone to be not fond of the way the game plays. I had a short email convo with Sirlin once and he definitely does not like the high/low game of 3s and prefers the space-control game of ST. | ||
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Scooter
United States747 Posts
On May 30 2008 11:44 Myrmidon wrote: Hm, well this whole time I've been resisting learning 3S even though that's where most of the competition is on GGPO and 2DF. I've only played it less than half an hour, definitely not enough to learn anything substantial from that, but from what I've seen from a good deal of match vids (between 50-100), it just doesn't appeal to me. I'm sure there are some things I'm missing, so if anybody could convince me of its merits or point out where my impressions are wrong, that'd be great. What I see is very intense footsie mindgames play focusing extremely heavily on mix-up. Block strings should be as different as possible, and all approaches should be interspersed with throw setups and plenty of tricky crouch/uncrouch walks. Projectiles are worse than they are in almost every fighter out there. What dominates instead is unpredictable pokes (predictable pokes can be parried) which get hit-confirmed into supers for damage. Or in the case of some characters, poke into some non-super combo--actually, I'm not sure what some of the lower-tier characters do besides cry. Cornering the opponent is good because air juggling against the wall can rack up some nice damage; thus, knocking down opponent -> dash dash dash dash forward while they're on the ground to push them closer to corner is great. However, even if you have good positioning on the opponent, any attack attempted can be dangerous for you if parried. I certainly don't think all of the above is negative at all, but I did focus on some of my apparent complaints. There are definitely some other things I didn't mention I like about 3S. So what does everybody more informed than me see in 3S? On a side note, what are the differences between Garou's Just Defend and 3S parry? How does Garou play in comparison? If you can convince me about 3S, maybe I'll pick it up. As for now I play Vampire Savior on GGPO (some things I don't like about VS too though) and Twinkle Star Sprites on 2DF if you want to hit me up. I think I may be interested in learning Super Turbo and/or some SamSho (2? 5? idk), although I don't know too much about either (especially not much of any SNK fighter). I'm "Myrmidon" on both servers. edit: oh yeah, some nice matches in the tourney Bill. Sabin was in another couple leagues though lol. Rape only makes you stronger though. T_T can someone give me a version of this post for GGAC?? <3<3~~~ | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14910 Posts
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
Someone like Sirlin, who is close to the GGPO creators, could implement it unless the problem lies with the limitation of network (live\psn) they are given. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
edit: and I dont have a box. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 31 2008 08:32 [X]Ken_D wrote: Does anyone know if the new Super Street Fighter HD for xbox 360 arcade & PSN will play like GGPO or sadly 3s xbox? Not having frame skip really ruins the SF experience with even basic combos. Someone like Sirlin, who is close to the GGPO creators, could implement it unless the problem lies with the limitation of network (live\psn) they are given. Yeah I hear SF2:HF (been out for a while on XBLA), had fairly shoddy netcode. Capcom insisted that SSF2T:HD would provide a arcade-like experience with a better netplay implementation. This along with GGPO's choice of games on the server for a while (i.e. no Super Turbo, no Puzzle Fighter) led to speculation that Capcom would buy GGPO and use its netcode for SSF2T:HD, but they've since revealed that this would not be the case, yet sticking to their guns about how the netplay was going to be good. I don't think there should be any limitations of the network inherently unless Microsoft/Sony has some really strange and/or limited and bad APIs for networking or some such, which doesn't make sense. Xbox 360/PS3 are computers that connect to the Internet like everything else. Since they're looking at netcode performance and tweaking in the upcoming beta testing stage, and since Sirlin's on the project and is very dedicated to making this good, I'll have to assume SSF2T:HD will have good if not great netplay with or without any assistance from Ponder or anybody else. This is clearly not some cheapo hack job release. | ||
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