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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
September 25 2008 22:39 GMT
#3861
bad judgement over those, but its more that you're playing as if you know the behaviors of all your team members instead of stupid play. I'm sure as you get used to us, you'll sit down and farm like a kid in harvest moon like us.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-25 22:43:25
September 25 2008 22:43 GMT
#3862
TL DotA : where each player is playing a 1v5, and if it's geographically convenient, they gank or push with allies

y/n
Hates Fun🤔
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
September 25 2008 23:07 GMT
#3863
On September 26 2008 07:43 paper wrote:
TL DotA : where each player is playing a 1v5, and if it's geographically convenient, they gank or push with allies

y/n


It's STILL like that? Do you kids grow up? =(
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 25 2008 23:43 GMT
#3864
yea wtf, not saying its my teammates fault or anything but lots of times people would be 1v3ing or something and the fight would go on for 30 secs and no one would come to help.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
September 25 2008 23:46 GMT
#3865
old news. you learn to deal with it. Generally we don't do stupid shit like that in cws.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
September 25 2008 23:57 GMT
#3866
ROFL? help my ally 1v3 (that makes it 2v3, we'd still get owned) when I could be farming my precious creeps for an extra 30 secs? no thx l2juke+tp
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-26 00:53:51
September 26 2008 00:53 GMT
#3867
we need more self-sacrificing support players in TL dota
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
September 26 2008 01:13 GMT
#3868
like me? People call me the Jesus of Dota.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-26 01:14:38
September 26 2008 01:13 GMT
#3869
I'll play the poor guy who takes all the hits and ganks at command :-(

Where do I get WC3 cd without rebuying them though... I know my old cd key but no longer have cds... need to reinstall :-(
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
September 26 2008 01:18 GMT
#3870
if you go to the bnet store and have a valid cd key i believe you can download the game for free
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 26 2008 01:19 GMT
#3871
Check out blizzard store [ google ]

You make an account and put in your game cd keys and you can download them from blizzard on any computer.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
September 26 2008 01:24 GMT
#3872
On September 26 2008 09:53 Live2Win wrote:
we need more self-sacrificing support players in TL dota


we can start with you
Hates Fun🤔
sl
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada239 Posts
September 26 2008 02:54 GMT
#3873
On September 26 2008 09:53 Live2Win wrote:
we need more self-sacrificing support players in TL dota



Yeah like I can only name lyke 2 people

Me or alven

Ironically, TL is the land of the farmers, but I hate farming. and whats more ironic is I end up with a higher cs (Not one compared to the likes of testie though lul)

/rageleaves clan
loljk, nuj powers are too cool to leave
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
September 26 2008 03:13 GMT
#3874
Does anyone play dragon knight? i need some tips, Hes so kick ass though
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
September 26 2008 03:13 GMT
#3875
WUT SL

YOU FORGOT ME
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
September 26 2008 03:14 GMT
#3876
folca i recommend you check out the strategy forum of http://www.dota-allstars.com for that, youre probably not going to get that much help here
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
September 26 2008 03:18 GMT
#3877
There are no support players because people in TL dota gank, on the whole, as if 5 heros are waiting up every cliff despite 4 being visible on the map. Its pretty infuriating trying to lead a group of gankers when people will routinely run from kills, making you trek across the map for nothing, leaving you underfarmed and underleveled for the push phase of the game.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
September 26 2008 03:32 GMT
#3878
hmm, i play support just fine L =P. You just mentioned a ganker, and early game its all up to the ganker to make the plays if he roams. If you dont make a play possible then you have no one to blame but yourself.

Ive played times where i roam early, roam mid game, or play all our support + wards on multiple heroes.

I should have saved my game as furion where i wanted to jungle but bly made me lane with him so we could own lane (which didnt happen due to na being in our lane). I had like 25+ wards or something at the end and mek + necrobook + treads + vlads + other items.

I honestly prefer support over carry anyway, i enjoy it more and it fits me more. I can only carry with a couple heroes anyway (i mean actually carry vs good teams, not pubs where i could carry with any hero i random)
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-26 04:58:15
September 26 2008 04:54 GMT
#3879
Which support characters besides the sp/wl/abbadon/omni set of healers are shitty gankers(and even they can gank fairly well given good starting lanes, ie fucking supersonic euls omni + dps gank group, wl rock initiate)? Like, even aoecentric support heroes like THD/pit gank fine, and i'd be VERY hard pressed for someone to call pitlord a raw ganking hero. The issue is that support doesn't pay off post BKB/hood/heart/lothar in many cases because of the fact that we, as a group, gank poorly. Our map control in cws is hugely dependent on having superior lanes because we simply don't co-ordinate and we refuse to punish economic bait.

How many games have we had had in which we've just failed spectacularly at ganking opponent carries with ridiculously gank/support oriented teams with a single carry? Plenty. Its why testie rages when we lose and he goes 22-3. Take today for example; we basically ignored cats farming as PA until level 17, and didn't try to gank him a single time despite having a team with 3 gankers, 1 carry and 1 support.

Doesn't really mean anything, though when we're comparing the situation to the whole of TL, not just you. I personally trust that you won't bone up a gank, but there are plenty of players that i know who will ignore a gank and just keep farming, and you know that them too but there's going to be a polite lack of names named, and some others simply don't have the map awareness to respond to a fight because they're just plain learning the basics of the game.

Ex: When parme goes crazy about people using mana to farm creeps, its because he expects a certain level of gank-ability out of certain heroes, and he just doesn't find it. In return, he gets killed often times when he shouldn't, which then instructs him to stop playing aggressively, and start farming. Since he's already farming, why not pick a hero that benefits from it more?

Final question; How many of us regularly leave our lanes levels 3-5 to gank mid from the side lanes, or gank the opposite side?

0.

psyyren used to do it regularly. you do it sparingly. I do it sparingly. sl does it sparingly. riki does it sparingly.

And no, its not the ganker's fault if he goes in and the 2 people in the lane he's ganking just sit back and refuse to snare/stun, or go oom or get out of position after he's said he's coming in. That's poor play by the laning heroes, not the roaming ganker. There are PLENTY of examples of non-roaming heroes completely botching ganks, be it the classic unneeded decrepifies, the dps halting cog barriers, the misplaced allied hero dragging meat hook, etc. Many are just simple errors of ommision or errors of judgement.

The support that we do regularly take are those that have push ending ults; mag, tree, (enigma not so much :o), levi, ES, or those that have fairly solid solo ganking power; WD, necrolyte, etc. We very rarely see heroes like shadow priest. People bitch when asked to play omni. We've had 1 avernus in the past... week. But warlock with his gank/push ending/powering rocks sees plenty of play. Its not even limited to support; the more independant your hero makes you, the more likely you are to use him which stems from the fact that typing is severely crippling towards hero control and that we don't use vent. So you used furion? Good job; you can tp anywhere without worrying that an ally will steal the lane before you get there, pick and choose the ganks you want to be in, farm multiple sources of creeps at the same time and largely use your ult for purely self driven profit concerns, even if you're pushing lanes that shouldn't be pushed. Compare that with CM or Ogre magi. That's why they aren't played.

Edit; lol that's a lot of text to say we're fairly selfish players.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 26 2008 04:57 GMT
#3880
On September 26 2008 12:13 Folca wrote:
Does anyone play dragon knight? i need some tips, Hes so kick ass though


Replays thread, if someone hasn't answered in a reasonable time I'll try and answer but I'm going home soon so no comp for about half a day.

Also psyren still plays with you guys? You have a TL username psy? So weird that that you play with people from TL and I know you through the canadians lol.
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