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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On August 29 2012 00:35 Tchado wrote: Blood hunter and berserker on the same team ? this shit would never happen before ! Haha i missed that, which game ? And yea lock pick is pretty awesome. I remember some games with Dampeer and shadowblade stomping everything lol. | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On August 29 2012 00:42 Boblion wrote: Haha i missed that, which game ? And yea lock pick is pretty awesome. I remember some games with Dampeer and shadowblade stomping everything lol. I'll look it up on Honcast and get back to you later , I forgot the teams XD But I remember those 2 raping and pillaging everything in their fucking way , it was amazing to watch man. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14900 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On August 29 2012 03:20 KOFgokuon wrote: yea it's been a lot of fun. I don't know the competitive scene of dota 2 yet at all, but HoN I know fairly well after watching a few tournaments and I'm really enjoying it. It's interesting how particular heroes are such god tier in 1 game, when they're hardly picked at all in the other even if they're almost identical, tundra/beastmaster pebbles/tiny and jereziah/omni being prime examples for strong HoN heroes that aren't nearly as popular in dota Beastmaster is reasonably popular, with tiny being a somewhat rare pick, and omni is unseen. I can understand pebbles/tiny, since spellshards isn't in dota, phase boots are better in hon and "twitchy/clutch/reaction" heroes benefit from HoN's faster pace. However, having not watched any competitive HoN for a long time, I'm not sure how jere is a high tier pick, his laning weakness seems abuseable, I would also assume that his potency decreases the more coordination your opponents have. | ||
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
On August 29 2012 06:43 Alur wrote: Beastmaster is reasonably popular, with tiny being a somewhat rare pick, and omni is unseen. I can understand pebbles/tiny, since spellshards isn't in dota, phase boots are better in hon and "twitchy/clutch/reaction" heroes benefit from HoN's faster pace. However, having not watched any competitive HoN for a long time, I'm not sure how jere is a high tier pick, his laning weakness seems abuseable, I would also assume that his potency decreases the more coordination your opponents have. Pebbles doesn't use spellshards. He's pretty dependant on poaching hard supports to snowball, and is usually either put solo mid or dual mid with a hard support giving him xp, or occational trilane with the two supports staying out of xp range. Either way, fast levels are the clue. For jera, he's usually put solo mid or suicide. He's very capable in most 1v1 matchups, and can usually survive suicide lanes and get levels decently enough. His ulti is a game turner, and the spell immunity is an annoyance. No idea how these toons usually were used in DOTA, but that's how they work in modern HON. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14900 Posts
On August 29 2012 06:43 Alur wrote: Beastmaster is reasonably popular, with tiny being a somewhat rare pick, and omni is unseen. I can understand pebbles/tiny, since spellshards isn't in dota, phase boots are better in hon and "twitchy/clutch/reaction" heroes benefit from HoN's faster pace. However, having not watched any competitive HoN for a long time, I'm not sure how jere is a high tier pick, his laning weakness seems abuseable, I would also assume that his potency decreases the more coordination your opponents have. Jera is almost always blind banned, and if not is usually banned during the second banning phase. Pebbles and Tundra (tiny/BM) almost never make it out of the blind ban phase due to the legion team getting first lock and first pick. dat bird is too strong Now that I thinka bout it I did see a few suicide lane BM's during the tournament, so that was a bad comparison. Warbeast is significantly weaker than lycan, though that has a lot to do with the lack of respawn due to corpses. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17588 Posts
I haven't followed DotA/2 in a long time, but last I saw the game was much more farm oriented than HoN, which generally seems way more fast paced with some really differing team setups. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
also the international 2 is happening close enough to all day if you wanna watch some dota 2, it's changed a lot since a year ago | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
omni has issues in compet dota2 because the hero doesnt offer that much outside of protection spells, you need a lineup that that has great disable+initiation abilities and significant damage output other than omni to use him. not only that, you need to put him in a solo lane to use him most effectively, which isnt very desirable with A LOT of lane matchups in dota2. and just in case you do figure out all that stuff, he has a few hard counters to repel which basically makes a lot of what he does not very useful | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17588 Posts
On August 29 2012 15:55 Dead9 wrote: warbeast is significantly weaker than lycan even if you ignore the corpses; all of his skills are worse (or at least used to be) also the international 2 is happening close enough to all day if you wanna watch some dota 2, it's changed a lot since a year ago WB shines nicely in some line-ups though. Minion/push oriented strategies benefit from WB quite significantly. And even though he's weaker than Lycan, he can still be pretty scary, especially if the other team underestimates him and doesn't put enough pressure on him he can pretty much own most people come mid-game if he has his shrunken. Also, the ability to farm both lane and woods at the same time since lvl 5 makes him pretty strong. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14900 Posts
HoN has a pretty fast changing meta game, went from push strats to tanky carries (arma/zephyr in particular) with stormspirits to save carries with mass heals so that they drop back down with full hp. trending way more back to the farmfest with magebane, dark lady, sil, and now draconis, with some FA tossed in there Personally I like the games when they're all banned, and we have to see alternative strats with other carries like warbeast wildsoul or pebbles | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
didn't end well for us  ::: actually i just checked the replay... testie used the insanitarius toggle to bullshit his way out of two key deaths. Could have been a close game T_T | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Well that it sucked... Game 2 starts and i get a phone call, i come back 15mins later 19-1 for CoL and cc... | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14900 Posts
Dunno why opponents keep giving col bubbles and ophelia, they're too damn strong | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On August 31 2012 05:57 Boblion wrote: DreamHon Final + Show Spoiler + Well that it sucked... Game 2 starts and i get a phone call, i come back 15mins later 19-1 for CoL and cc... + Show Spoiler + Ophelia's annihilation/team wipe in game 3 made me fall out of my chair laughing. Especially because of how much less intimidating the minotaurs are compared to DotA centaurs. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Buy boots first and lane with a stunner. Get easy first blood. Ride your level advantage until level 6. Press 'r' then 'q'. GG | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17588 Posts
On September 07 2012 06:54 ZaplinG wrote: I just finished writing what I think is a pretty solid Swiftblade guide, and here it is. + Show Spoiler + Buy boots first and lane with a stunner. Get easy first blood. Ride your level advantage until level 6. Press 'r' then 'q'. GG That's not very good. It's been done for ages with Swift/Glac, Swift/Elec, Swift/Poly. It _sometimes_ works in low level pub games. Overall, Swift is way too squishy and if you get boots first and don't get your FB like lvl 1-2 you're going to get zoned out and rendered useless for the rest of the game. Unfortunately, stunner/swift combo won't work against anyone with half of a brain. Boots first is just as bad as bottle first in my book. The only worse thing I saw people buy early was gloves first (apparently trying to rush midas but usually ending in them leaving the game after first 3 deaths during first 5 minutes). | ||
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