EPT"Pros:
Large number of heroes
Cons:
Too many heroes to choose from"
&
"HoN just doesn't do anything that hasn't been seen before"
&
"MOBAs, or Multiplayer Online Battle Arenas, are the new hot trend in the MMO market"
LOL WTF?
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Marth
Germany146 Posts
"Pros: Large number of heroes Cons: Too many heroes to choose from" & "HoN just doesn't do anything that hasn't been seen before" & "MOBAs, or Multiplayer Online Battle Arenas, are the new hot trend in the MMO market" LOL WTF? | ||
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5-s
United States1674 Posts
On October 21 2011 02:33 Marth wrote: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/629/view/reviews/load/164/Heroes-Of-Newerth-It-Could-Be-a-Very-Good-Game.html "Pros: Large number of heroes Cons: Too many heroes to choose from" & "HoN just doesn't do anything that hasn't been seen before" & "MOBAs, or Multiplayer Online Battle Arenas, are the new hot trend in the MMO market" LOL WTF? Quite an awful review, but I kind of agree with its overall assessment (as they're reviewing the F2p Version, which is quite awful indeed). | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On October 21 2011 02:33 Marth wrote: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/629/view/reviews/load/164/Heroes-Of-Newerth-It-Could-Be-a-Very-Good-Game.html "Pros: Large number of heroes Cons: Too many heroes to choose from" & "HoN just doesn't do anything that hasn't been seen before" & "MOBAs, or Multiplayer Online Battle Arenas, are the new hot trend in the MMO market" LOL WTF? i dont understand why a mmo site is reviewing hon | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17872 Posts
Besides, I don't really know what kind of criteria this site has. HoN has 5.8 there and LoL has 8.2, it's all I need to know... | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 21 2011 02:46 rabidch wrote: i dont understand why a mmo site is reviewing hon Is hon not massively multiplayer online game? Pretty sure there is no single player for hon XD | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
oh and that same site gave league of legends an 8.2 with 10/10 innovation so yeah | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On October 21 2011 05:06 semantics wrote: Is hon not massively multiplayer online game? Pretty sure there is no single player for hon XD The problem with calling this kind of games MMO is the "massive" part, just like with Diablo. I think it originally intended to represet huge numbers of people able to interact with each other ingame, not 5 or 10. If we ignore it, there is no reason not to call it simply Online RPGs, Online games, etc. It was never about single player/multiplayer, else Counter Strike would be a MMO as well. And if we start calling every single game that is played online an MMO, games like WoW are suddenly the same thing as games like Diablo, when there is a pretty big diference. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17872 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
There's a really simple fix to this. Upon account creation, ask the player their previous experience in the genre (none, low, high) with high placing them at 1500, low 1400, none 1300. Could be adjustable, but I mean it would make the game much more noob friendly. (Aside from smurfing... but that already happens) | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
LoL is played more because it has a far lower skill ceiling right from the get-go; casual players can jump in and not completely throw a game by not knowing what they are doing. However, join your first hon game ever without knowing how to deny and you've at least lost your lane and the community will ensure you've lost a ton of belief in the game. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
especially the bots | ||
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
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mikell
Australia352 Posts
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lepape
Canada557 Posts
On October 21 2011 02:33 Marth wrote: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/629/view/reviews/load/164/Heroes-Of-Newerth-It-Could-Be-a-Very-Good-Game.html "Pros: Large number of heroes Cons: Too many heroes to choose from" & "HoN just doesn't do anything that hasn't been seen before" & "MOBAs, or Multiplayer Online Battle Arenas, are the new hot trend in the MMO market" LOL WTF? Too many heroes to choose from... and that's based on the F2P version? Wow. I gotta agree with the last paragraph though : Ram issues and lack of casual options severely hurt what could be a very good game, but in its current form, unless you want to dive head first into the meta-game Heroes of Newerth does not offer much in the way of casual player satisfaction. There is a new patch on its way though, with map customization to boot and there has been talk of bots thrown in with that also. . But that part is a real joke : If that is the case when it lands on the live servers then Heroes of Newerth will elevate its standings with everyone just a bit higher. It’s a shame that over a year had to pass before the game caught up with the options offered in Warcraft 3. Elevate to DotA... because there's no bots? Who the hell wants to play with bots? There's also no map customization at all in DotA, unless you wanna make your own variations and play with own friends, the guy has no idea what he's talking about. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On October 21 2011 06:29 mikell wrote: the fact of the matter is the people who play HoN are a small group of the DOTA community that started playing HoN as a means to play DOTA with better graphics. People that try HoN without playing DOTA rarely have any success and usually ragequit the game and have a bad experience because the community is dogshit mean to newcomers. This. I am one of the people that never played HoN, and not much of SC2, and jumped right in. Needless to say, it was a solid 10 games before I got a single kill. And the grief I got was epic. Fortunately, I always prefaced all my games(and still do sometimes, lol) with a team chat stating that I am new, help me out all you can, and i apologize in advance for making you lose the game, but I have to start somehow. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On October 21 2011 06:40 Sm3agol wrote: This. I am one of the people that never played HoN, and not much of SC2, and jumped right in. Needless to say, it was a solid 10 games before I got a single kill. And the grief I got was epic. Fortunately, I always prefaced all my games(and still do sometimes, lol) with a team chat stating that I am new, help me out all you can, and i apologize in advance for making you lose the game, but I have to start somehow. You see there is no problem with that; i assume people generally respond positively? I absolutely cannot stand people that feed, throw, and screw up.. but then blame absolutely every body else on the team. If i have a shit game, i apologise, "sorry guys, it's just not happening today, my bad." Someone that instapicks and yells ME MID and then feeds and loses lane, sits in fountain and griefs for 15min absolutely drives me insane. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On October 21 2011 05:31 Nevuk wrote: I think the vast reason why lol is played more is that it caters to new people in every way possible. But the main one being that a new lol account won't be facing mid-range lol players (basically level 25-30) while a new hon account will for at least 5-6 games. So instead of being matched against newb players you're playing against bad average players who will, of course, stomp you. There's a really simple fix to this. Upon account creation, ask the player their previous experience in the genre (none, low, high) with high placing them at 1500, low 1400, none 1300. Could be adjustable, but I mean it would make the game much more noob friendly. (Aside from smurfing... but that already happens) this is huge, I play both games, and the variance in skill in hon games, is much higher. This might be due to the game's populations and the fact you start at 1500 in HoN. I really dislike playing vs smurfs in Hon, and it happens all the time. I don't like it when their on my team either. LoL makes you play till level 30 before you can play ranked, it also does a good job of detecting if your a smurf, and matching you with other smurfs if your on your way to 30. I have exciting close lol games all the time, where most of my Hon games are really one sided, and usually the people in my games in Hon have awful mechanics except for 1/2 people I mean awful awful awful. Yet even at my highest mmr(not very high like 1630 so it might change later) in Hon I have yet to see balanced teams more than 1/5 games. I would say that as someone coming into the game who doesn't really have experience, they will be very put off by Hon(I don't like to get crushed, or to crush other team very much, I want an even exciting game), and probably continue to play LoL, which is why you see these kinds of reviews. I wouldn't pay much attention to that specific review since it's pretty awful though. There are other reasons why LoL is more noob friendly, but you probably know those already, I like denying etc, but it's pretty much personal preference, I could care less which game people choose to play. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On October 21 2011 05:06 semantics wrote: Is hon not massively multiplayer online game? Pretty sure there is no single player for hon XD theres no more than 10 people in each game though, you're not really competing with anybody else outside of the game at a given time (unless you really consider MMR as a true ranking) so yea... they shouldnt even be reviewing LoL either. i'm just guessing they just want to stick their foot in this market | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17872 Posts
I guess what HoN really needs is some links for new accounts pointing you to their or Nigma's game guides on YT, or better yet, embed them in the game as video tutorial. This stuff would be priceless for newcomers: | ||
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