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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
October 18 2011 02:15 GMT
#31541
If your consistently above the level of the enemy team as a support player, then your consistently playing in games lower than your true MMR rank, or with people higher than the MMR, or both
Adonai bless
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 18 2011 02:17 GMT
#31542
I am a 1900+ player, there isn't too much above me without 30 minutes queue times.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
October 18 2011 02:27 GMT
#31543
damn smurf.... xD
Adonai bless
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:05:06
October 18 2011 16:04 GMT
#31544
Why are competetive teams still using Rhapsody? With Keeper-based push strats dying out a bit she seems more like a liability to the team than actual help. It seems to me that there are much better heroes who can perform the underfarmed warding role. Staccato is nice, not entirely sure about the disco but I think that heroes like Glacius or Andromeda bring more to the team overall.
Could someone more skilled shed some light on it?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
October 18 2011 16:32 GMT
#31545
the only unique thing about glac is the aura, and if you have it your nukes deal very little damage.
andromeda has low range.
rhap has a little bit of everything (and then some) - stun, aoe heal/dot, decent range, ok passive, amazing ult. in a generic lineup she is simply the better pick because she gives you more options both for laning and strategy.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 16:37:13
October 18 2011 16:37 GMT
#31546
On October 19 2011 01:04 Manit0u wrote:
Why are competetive teams still using Rhapsody? With Keeper-based push strats dying out a bit she seems more like a liability to the team than actual help. It seems to me that there are much better heroes who can perform the underfarmed warding role. Staccato is nice, not entirely sure about the disco but I think that heroes like Glacius or Andromeda bring more to the team overall.
Could someone more skilled shed some light on it?

Obviously I'm pretty terrible, but just from watching high level team fights and such, I've seen her ulti and disco be very effective in a variety of different situations. And her stacatto is just plain annoying.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17444 Posts
October 18 2011 20:19 GMT
#31547
I must test her out myself. With Glacius I never really though about blast as damage nuke, more like AoE slow. The problem I see with Rhapsody is that she seems to need to stick close to things to do anything and with her squishiness it's not really the place you'd like to be.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 18 2011 21:52 GMT
#31548
"[CAL]RLTY": not sure wtf this is

me neither.


LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17444 Posts
October 18 2011 22:13 GMT
#31549
My KDR and overall performance goes up but my MMR goes down. You can't explain that...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
October 19 2011 01:49 GMT
#31550
On October 19 2011 07:13 Manit0u wrote:
My KDR and overall performance goes up but my MMR goes down. You can't explain that...

It's pretty easy for KDR and perceived individual performance to go up, whilst actually playing worse.

Never run into those people that hang around outside teamfights doing nothing but waiting to clean up stragglers, possibly saving skills to KS, and then blaming their team when they've gone 7/1/3 and still lost?
The original Bogus fan.
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
October 19 2011 02:04 GMT
#31551
On October 19 2011 07:13 Manit0u wrote:
My KDR and overall performance goes up but my MMR goes down. You can't explain that...


I know that feeling, my GPM, wards per game, KDR, and KADR all go up, and yet my MMR remains stagnate.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 03:04:48
October 19 2011 03:04 GMT
#31552
I have this crazy theory that I'm not playing better. I'm just unlucky and keep losing games, which reduces my MMR, which makes me play with worse people, which in turn makes my play seem better in comparison.

@Turbovolver: I usually have more assists than kills. Never really been a KDR whore as I've mostly played support. Had to switch to some semi-carry/carry heroes now because support just doesn't work at this level.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 19 2011 03:19 GMT
#31553
I just played a roaming valk game where i out leveled all of my lanes except testie mid. Was hilarious =D
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
October 19 2011 03:35 GMT
#31554
yo roaming potm is legit dawg
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
October 19 2011 03:47 GMT
#31555
On October 19 2011 07:13 Manit0u wrote:
My KDR and overall performance goes up but my MMR goes down. You can't explain that...


Sure you can. You play worse --> MMR goes down.
KDR isn't a measure of how good you are. "overall performance" is too vague, thus it's also not a measure of how good you are. The only proper measure is winning and losing, aka your MMR / win%
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 19 2011 03:55 GMT
#31556
On October 19 2011 12:19 Alventenie wrote:
I just played a roaming valk game where i out leveled all of my lanes except testie mid. Was hilarious =D


I remember when a South American team used this strategy against then VP and put PGG on like super-tilt, like 0-4 Luna solo mid.
Get it by your hands...
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 04:58:56
October 19 2011 04:58 GMT
#31557
woahh, the end of that video showing the transition to dota2 was neat
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
October 19 2011 15:07 GMT
#31558
I used to try to play pure support. But that was before I realized that noone plays support at 1500MMR, and doing so is just about worthless because noone watches the minimap anyways, and the carries can't farm for crap regardless of how well you protect them and let them farm.

My solution is to play semi-carries like kraken and such, that way I can still be super useful if I'm not farmed, but if I do manage to get some decent farm, I can carry the game away better than if I was playing a pure support like WS or something. So far, it has at least raised my MMR out of the 1400s, and carried me to 1650 at one point, but then I decided to switch to hard carries, and failed some more. trying to get back into the semi-carry mode of things now. Kind of hard though.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 19 2011 16:12 GMT
#31559
You say witch slayer can't carry!!?!? I've dominated plenty with him, but hes one of my favorite heroes to play so I have a lot more practice with him than most people.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 17:40:18
October 19 2011 17:37 GMT
#31560
On October 20 2011 01:12 Alventenie wrote:
You say witch slayer can't carry!!?!? I've dominated plenty with him, but hes one of my favorite heroes to play so I have a lot more practice with him than most people.

You could probably dominate with any hero though. :-p

I just find him getting distinctly "non-carryish" once people start getting bkbs, and when your ulti takes about 10% of their hp down. I guess if you can farm like a champ and can get stacked with shield breaker, frostburn, behe heart, doombringer, and wingbow, or something like that you could rip face with him. Speaking of witch,(see what I did there?) I do enjoy playing him, and maybe it's just my late-game item choice that sucks. What would you get for a carryish WS? I know I've had quite a few games where I've been something like 12/3/7 and the highest level overall, but I've never turned that into a win, possibly due to sucking and bad item choices.
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