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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 19 2011 17:41 GMT
#31561
Here's a game i played as WS the other day. 65268923

I go for phase -> blink -> sheep then after that i picked whatever i want. I went a lulzy whirl stick + void talisman so i couldn't die, but the game ended before i really used them as the other team turtled like hell. If i went mid witch like i did in dota, I would go phase bottle aghs blink sheep then a damage item at the end, either mkb/skadi/deso/harkons. Most of witch slayer carrying is that you get ahead in levels and then you kill people, over and over and over again. It's one of the more satisfying ways to carry =D.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#31562
Anyone going to be queing 5s this friday for the event?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
October 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#31563
On October 20 2011 02:41 Alventenie wrote:
Here's a game i played as WS the other day. 65268923

I go for phase -> blink -> sheep then after that i picked whatever i want. I went a lulzy whirl stick + void talisman so i couldn't die, but the game ended before i really used them as the other team turtled like hell. If i went mid witch like i did in dota, I would go phase bottle aghs blink sheep then a damage item at the end, either mkb/skadi/deso/harkons. Most of witch slayer carrying is that you get ahead in levels and then you kill people, over and over and over again. It's one of the more satisfying ways to carry =D.

Sheep.....hmmm. So basically your premise is completely nullify them for 10 straight seconds while auto-attacking them to death? I've been more of trying for the pure dps route, maybe that's why I'm failing.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#31564
I prefer utility over damage most of the time. The more you don't die, the more items you have in the long run. You win the game by playing smart =P. You can go dps items, but if you make bad decisions you will fail with them because you have less items that can get you out of trouble.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
October 19 2011 18:38 GMT
#31565
On October 20 2011 03:36 Alventenie wrote:
I prefer utility over damage most of the time. The more you don't die, the more items you have in the long run. You win the game by playing smart =P. You can go dps items, but if you make bad decisions you will fail with them because you have less items that can get you out of trouble.


THIS! utility is the greatest muhaha and it makes playing so much more fun.

especially on a hero like witch who already has all active-use spells, adding some more on top through items makes him so fun to play
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 18:41:51
October 19 2011 18:41 GMT
#31566
On October 20 2011 03:36 Alventenie wrote:
I prefer utility over damage most of the time. The more you don't die, the more items you have in the long run. You win the game by playing smart =P. You can go dps items, but if you make bad decisions you will fail with them because you have less items that can get you out of trouble.

Sounds good. Most utility items do come with small damage boosts as well through stats or even pure + damage. Sheepstick, for instance would add a decent amount of dps to witch, because of the the +35 INT. Going to try this tonight.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
October 19 2011 18:44 GMT
#31567
Also, random question upon looking through some items. What is the problem with sacrificial stone? I would think a carry could really use something like that, especially as it has decent +hp/mana and regen properties as well as the gold/ - respawn time bonuses.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 19 2011 18:47 GMT
#31568
It does not offer a lot for its cost. It also is dependent on you being present for a lot of kills for it to actually be an effective item. It can be one of the strongest items in the game, but most people want an item that doesn't require extra work after you have it to be good. Sac stone needs charges to be good, otherwise you could have gotten a null stone and been more protected with similar stats.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
October 19 2011 18:47 GMT
#31569
i usually go hellflower/harkons after blink/sheep for carry witch. i'll throw in force staff or cyclone if i feel i need it
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
October 19 2011 19:59 GMT
#31570
On October 20 2011 03:41 Sm3agol wrote:
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On October 20 2011 03:36 Alventenie wrote:
I prefer utility over damage most of the time. The more you don't die, the more items you have in the long run. You win the game by playing smart =P. You can go dps items, but if you make bad decisions you will fail with them because you have less items that can get you out of trouble.

Sounds good. Most utility items do come with small damage boosts as well through stats or even pure + damage. Sheepstick, for instance would add a decent amount of dps to witch, because of the the +35 INT. Going to try this tonight.


the small stats boosts from utility items are nice but obviously shouldn't be the focus.

Just the fact that certain relatively cheap items can make big plays is why they are useful. I can think of 109238019283 uses for tablet, both defensively and offensively, and you can make HUGE plays with the item given the right hero and circumstance
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 20 2011 04:25 GMT
#31571
someone should make a hon mod that takes word like bad and suck and turns them into, "you're awesome" "way to go" "u are great at this" "i am a horrible person who likes to cuss people out who aren't great at video games". It would make hon a much more pleasant game.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
October 20 2011 06:40 GMT
#31572
http://hondmg.com/ranked/nightreaver/65633979

Haha, I have no idea how we got this with such bad items. Their elec, damp and ra were pretty stacked. I had puzzlebox in stash too but didn't get a chance to pick it up. Loved it how ra was surprised his ult didn't go off when I was around to use my E skill on him.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
October 20 2011 06:51 GMT
#31573
parasite with codex lvl 5 and spellshards does 1.8k jeeeeessuuuuuuu
Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
October 20 2011 08:02 GMT
#31574
Just finished playing an all mid 5v5 game. I guess that's what I needed to get back into HoN? All I want to do is play right now. It was pretty funny. I picked Dev and by the time the game was over I had 112 str from my passive.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
October 20 2011 08:05 GMT
#31575
Also, random question upon looking through some items. What is the problem with sacrificial stone? I would think a carry could really use something like that, especially as it has decent +hp/mana and regen properties as well as the gold/ - respawn time bonuses.


It's expensive, it needs to be picked up early for the charges to stack up, there are better options. It used to be good on Defiler as it helped her get tanky but its kind of gone out of style now along with defiler herself. It's viable on tort but it's not as good as a tablet or a sheep.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 20 2011 11:25 GMT
#31576
i think sac stone is widely regarded as the most useless item in the game lol

the buildup is kinda nice, but it's wayy too expensive for what it offers, the mana regen is mostly wasted, and one or two deaths sets you back so much. plus null stone is better in pretty much every aspect

the only hero who might be able to get some use out of it is dre, but even that's a long shot
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
October 20 2011 11:35 GMT
#31577
On October 20 2011 13:25 semantics wrote:
someone should make a hon mod that takes word like bad and suck and turns them into, "you're awesome" "way to go" "u are great at this" "i am a horrible person who likes to cuss people out who aren't great at video games". It would make hon a much more pleasant game.


Or just get some thicker skin and ignore the people who write articles ingame.
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
October 20 2011 11:46 GMT
#31578
Played another gem of a 1500 MMR game last night. Played with an ophelia who probably controlled 3 creeps max...ALL game. Not at one time. Total. And called me bad all game, lol. And she laned....."supporting" a scout. And by that I mean they managed to get a kill, and she bitched at scout for 5 minutes for stealing a kill from her. I kept trying to tell her that oph is among the best junglers in the game, but she just kept telling me that she was blue for a reason, and that i was yellow for a reason(about 50 MMR difference, LOL) and knew nothing about the game.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
October 20 2011 12:20 GMT
#31579
Hey guys, what do you think about 5x steam boots + shieldbreaker build on predator? I did it twice around 1700 rating and it works really nice. You have awesome hp, great attack speed, and with shieldbreaker you dish out sick dmg. Plus it's quite easy to get, since you just need 500 gold per item for the most part, gradually improving on quite a fast pace.
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 20 2011 13:03 GMT
#31580
mass steamboots is not bad on most heroes that autoattack a lot (str heroes in particular since they generally don't have as much attackspeed and get a nice hp boost too). i like lots of steamboots on mali and hammer in particular, tho they work pretty okay on most heroes that autoattack a lot

i don't think it's quite as effective as getting real items, and it definitely tapers off a lot once you start running out of inventory slots, but it works alright

there's the obvious synergy for fa, rampage, and tremble, since they all have 6 feet, and there's also the super secret 6 steamboots myrmidon build
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