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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 23:07:21
August 08 2011 20:44 GMT
#29401
r.i.p.

3:
Hates Fun🤔
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
August 08 2011 20:44 GMT
#29402
RIP trav
I'll miss dotaing with you. <3
DERPDERP
Profile Joined October 2010
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
August 08 2011 22:09 GMT
#29403
RIP trav :|
8)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 08 2011 22:17 GMT
#29404
On August 09 2011 05:44 paper wrote:
3rd grade art


Counterproductive to what you're observing.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
August 08 2011 22:25 GMT
#29405
RIP travitus..
I felt really bad even though I never interacted with him since I know a lot of you guys weren't too nice to him either..
life is too variable to be mean to people, honestly
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
August 08 2011 22:50 GMT
#29406
Whoa - this is terrible. I didn't know him but i watched his stream a few times; seems like a bit of a reality check for a lot of people.. I am sure he will be missed.

RIP
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Humdrum
Profile Joined July 2010
40 Posts
August 09 2011 00:46 GMT
#29407
So, as a pretty new moba player(I just hit 30 on LoL), I finally tried HoN for the first time. I must say, even though I understood the objectives, I had absolutely no idea what was going on. First, I had a really hard time differentiating between enemies and teammates. Secondly, the damage, pace of gameplay, and ease of death was extremely overwhelming. Finally, after a single death, in a solo top lane, I was bombarded with noob, feeder, scrub, asshole baddie.

So, I have the following questions:Is this to be expected? Does this game have a painful entry level learning curve? Most importantly, is it worth it to learn HoN or, as a new moba player, am I better off sticking with LoL?

bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
August 09 2011 00:54 GMT
#29408
On August 09 2011 09:46 Humdrum wrote:
So, as a pretty new moba player(I just hit 30 on LoL), I finally tried HoN for the first time. I must say, even though I understood the objectives, I had absolutely no idea what was going on. First, I had a really hard time differentiating between enemies and teammates. Secondly, the damage, pace of gameplay, and ease of death was extremely overwhelming. Finally, after a single death, in a solo top lane, I was bombarded with noob, feeder, scrub, asshole baddie.

So, I have the following questions:Is this to be expected? Does this game have a painful entry level learning curve? Most importantly, is it worth it to learn HoN or, as a new moba player, am I better off sticking with LoL?

The very first thing you need to learn about HoN is that the community is disgusting; you will be flamed - for everything! Ignore it; grow some thick skin and just focus on getting better.

The skill ceiling in HoN is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than in LoL - from denying creeps to losing gold on death and even having to navigate away from your hero; all these things require extra ability. I would recommend play public games with no stats as a starting point. This way you can fail as much as you want without any repercussions.

The damage, pace of gameplay and ease of death all comes down to understanding the game, the heroes and the skills required; once you know what each hero is capable of you can understand how vulnerable you are in certain points etc; basically it's just practice practice practice. On your last point - i personally feel HoN is better than LoL in every single dimension but if you go to the LoL forum you will probably get a different answer.

Anymore specific questions?
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
August 09 2011 00:56 GMT
#29409
Does this game have a painful entry level learning curve?

Probably the most painful I've ever dealt with aside from Dwarf Fortress, lol. It's pretty torturous. You have MOBA experience which will help you learn easier than someone like me who started from scratch.

Most importantly, is it worth it to learn HoN or, as a new moba player, am I better off sticking with LoL?


I guess it boils down to the type of gaming experience you want. LoL is obviously better for casual fun gaming, and HoN is more for serious competitive gaming. HoN is like BroodWar to me. It's a hard game to learn. But when you win, it's the sweetest taste ever because you feel like you earned it.
Chains none
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 09 2011 00:59 GMT
#29410
RIP My condolences to his friends and family
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
August 09 2011 01:00 GMT
#29411
rip trav, won't forget.

hope you're dotering/warcocks in heaven
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Humdrum
Profile Joined July 2010
40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 01:52:54
August 09 2011 01:52 GMT
#29412
On August 09 2011 09:54 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 09:46 Humdrum wrote:
So, as a pretty new moba player(I just hit 30 on LoL), I finally tried HoN for the first time. I must say, even though I understood the objectives, I had absolutely no idea what was going on. First, I had a really hard time differentiating between enemies and teammates. Secondly, the damage, pace of gameplay, and ease of death was extremely overwhelming. Finally, after a single death, in a solo top lane, I was bombarded with noob, feeder, scrub, asshole baddie.

So, I have the following questions:Is this to be expected? Does this game have a painful entry level learning curve? Most importantly, is it worth it to learn HoN or, as a new moba player, am I better off sticking with LoL?

The very first thing you need to learn about HoN is that the community is disgusting; you will be flamed - for everything! Ignore it; grow some thick skin and just focus on getting better.

The skill ceiling in HoN is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than in LoL - from denying creeps to losing gold on death and even having to navigate away from your hero; all these things require extra ability. I would recommend play public games with no stats as a starting point. This way you can fail as much as you want without any repercussions.

The damage, pace of gameplay and ease of death all comes down to understanding the game, the heroes and the skills required; once you know what each hero is capable of you can understand how vulnerable you are in certain points etc; basically it's just practice practice practice. On your last point - i personally feel HoN is better than LoL in every single dimension but if you go to the LoL forum you will probably get a different answer.

Anymore specific questions?


Thank you for your responses, they are much appreciated. As I'm extremely competitive, I feel compelled to give this game some more time. So, with that said, I actually do have a few more specific questions. I'll try to keep them simple so it won't take up much of your time or anyone else who might answer.

1. When you click on matchmaking, what's the difference between normal and casual mode?

2. Can you create games with bots?

3. Is there a site with guides for champion/item builds? It would be much easier to just follow a guide and focus on the mechanics of the game while I'm learning.

4. Is there a particular hero type that would be best for a newbie like me? Agility, intellect, strength, tank, ranged etc..

These questions are open to everyone. I'm hyper competitive about gaming so after hearing about the HoN/Dota scene I'm quite intrigued.
Humdrum
Profile Joined July 2010
40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 01:58:25
August 09 2011 01:54 GMT
#29413
On August 09 2011 09:56 LordWeird wrote:
Show nested quote +
Does this game have a painful entry level learning curve?

Probably the most painful I've ever dealt with aside from Dwarf Fortress, lol. It's pretty torturous. You have MOBA experience which will help you learn easier than someone like me who started from scratch.

Show nested quote +
Most importantly, is it worth it to learn HoN or, as a new moba player, am I better off sticking with LoL?


I guess it boils down to the type of gaming experience you want. LoL is obviously better for casual fun gaming, and HoN is more for serious competitive gaming. HoN is like BroodWar to me. It's a hard game to learn. But when you win, it's the sweetest taste ever because you feel like you earned it.



Lol, it's good to hear than I'm not alone. The competitive aspect of HoN is what brought me to try the game in the first place.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 09 2011 02:02 GMT
#29414
1. MM gives stats and tracks your performance.

2. Bots don't teach you anything, the only real thing you should do by yourself is to run around the map by yourself and get comfortable with the shop UIs. You'll pick up all of this eventually, but to speed the process up you can just do that.

3. Any fansite will have guides, but I am not sure if HoN forums distinguish well-written ones like DotA does. Keep in mind that guides are just that, guides, pay more attention to why said builds and items are suggested rather than what is being suggested. If the guide doesn't give information like that, then you need to fill in the blanks.

4. Play whatever you want, I know NotJack will have a differing opinion and you can find our discussion on the matter over the past 5+ pages. I am for whatever you think it's good and he says there are specific heroes, there's really no right or wrong answer in either case.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 09 2011 02:06 GMT
#29415
On August 09 2011 11:02 Judicator wrote:
1. MM gives stats and tracks your performance.

2. Bots don't teach you anything, the only real thing you should do by yourself is to run around the map by yourself and get comfortable with the shop UIs. You'll pick up all of this eventually, but to speed the process up you can just do that.

3. Any fansite will have guides, but I am not sure if HoN forums distinguish well-written ones like DotA does. Keep in mind that guides are just that, guides, pay more attention to why said builds and items are suggested rather than what is being suggested. If the guide doesn't give information like that, then you need to fill in the blanks.

4. Play whatever you want, I know NotJack will have a differing opinion and you can find our discussion on the matter over the past 5+ pages. I am for whatever you think it's good and he says there are specific heroes, there's really no right or wrong answer in either case.

the best heroes to start with are the ones you think are funnest to learn
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
August 09 2011 02:13 GMT
#29416
On August 09 2011 10:52 Humdrum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 09:54 bkrow wrote:
On August 09 2011 09:46 Humdrum wrote:
So, as a pretty new moba player(I just hit 30 on LoL), I finally tried HoN for the first time. I must say, even though I understood the objectives, I had absolutely no idea what was going on. First, I had a really hard time differentiating between enemies and teammates. Secondly, the damage, pace of gameplay, and ease of death was extremely overwhelming. Finally, after a single death, in a solo top lane, I was bombarded with noob, feeder, scrub, asshole baddie.

So, I have the following questions:Is this to be expected? Does this game have a painful entry level learning curve? Most importantly, is it worth it to learn HoN or, as a new moba player, am I better off sticking with LoL?

The very first thing you need to learn about HoN is that the community is disgusting; you will be flamed - for everything! Ignore it; grow some thick skin and just focus on getting better.

The skill ceiling in HoN is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than in LoL - from denying creeps to losing gold on death and even having to navigate away from your hero; all these things require extra ability. I would recommend play public games with no stats as a starting point. This way you can fail as much as you want without any repercussions.

The damage, pace of gameplay and ease of death all comes down to understanding the game, the heroes and the skills required; once you know what each hero is capable of you can understand how vulnerable you are in certain points etc; basically it's just practice practice practice. On your last point - i personally feel HoN is better than LoL in every single dimension but if you go to the LoL forum you will probably get a different answer.

Anymore specific questions?


Thank you for your responses, they are much appreciated. As I'm extremely competitive, I feel compelled to give this game some more time. So, with that said, I actually do have a few more specific questions. I'll try to keep them simple so it won't take up much of your time or anyone else who might answer.

1. When you click on matchmaking, what's the difference between normal and casual mode?

2. Can you create games with bots?

3. Is there a site with guides for champion/item builds? It would be much easier to just follow a guide and focus on the mechanics of the game while I'm learning.

4. Is there a particular hero type that would be best for a newbie like me? Agility, intellect, strength, tank, ranged etc..

These questions are open to everyone. I'm hyper competitive about gaming so after hearing about the HoN/Dota scene I'm quite intrigued.

1) Casual Mode is similar to LoL - denies don't reduce XP, you get extra gold or you don't lose gold on death - it's pretty much "easy mode"

2) There is a tutorial in game; that is as much as i know about AI in HoN; just play No Stats - noone cares about no stats and it's a great way to get in game experience. Alternatively you can "create game" and choose "practice mode" - this simulates the map and you can choose a hero, max your skills, buy items etc etc

3) there are many - Google it and you will see; there are also in game guide. When you press B to buy items (or click on shop) in game the first page is a recommended items list; on the right is a recommended skill build - they aren't the be all and end all as everything is situational but it is an ok place to start.

4) Pick a hero you enjoy; hammerstorm is easy, so is blacksmith, andromeda, etc but they all fill different roles. If you simulate practice mode and find a hero you enjoy come back and ask questions and someone will answer =D
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 04:05:02
August 09 2011 02:39 GMT
#29417
andromeda is definitely not easy x__x

i guess in low level games, but playing andro WELL is hard as hell

recommended beginner heroes - blacksmith, witch slayer, plague rider, swiftblade, hammerstorm I guess, pollywog priest, electrician, pestilence.. these are just heroes with simple skills that require less decision making / situational use to be successful.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 09 2011 02:41 GMT
#29418
Swiftblade and Pyro are easy heroes too.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
August 09 2011 02:45 GMT
#29419
doesn't seem like it's been posted yet

bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
August 09 2011 02:53 GMT
#29420
Green malphas!?!?! Hellz yeah

Interesting hero - should be fun to play i think.. :/
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
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