EPTIcefrog did a GREAT job. unlike this new hero from s2 ._. putting 8skills on 1 hero is just messy. very messy.
What do you make of invoker in dota then?
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wonderwall
New Zealand695 Posts
What do you make of invoker in dota then? | ||
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NotJack
United States737 Posts
On August 09 2011 13:43 wonderwall wrote: What do you make of invoker in dota then? Heh I thought that instantly after reading that too, but I figured he didn't know otherwise he wouldn't have said it XP | ||
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
On August 09 2011 13:43 wonderwall wrote: What do you make of invoker in dota then? NO! DON'T STATE FACTS WE MUST HATE ON HON | ||
wooozy
3813 Posts
On August 09 2011 13:35 BurningSera wrote: One of the important point in balance is about making all the heroes unique and equally appealing to us players. Icefrog did a GREAT job. unlike this new hero from s2 ._. putting 8skills on 1 hero is just messy. very messy. i think s2 is on Panic mode now. Monkey King came out barely 2 weeks and now this. I am so glad dota2 is coming out soon. what does MK (and DM) being released two weeks ago have anything to do with being in panic mode? they've been releasing a new hero every two weeks and are simply continuing to do so. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On August 09 2011 13:48 SirMilford wrote: NO! DON'T STATE FACTS WE MUST HATE ON HON it's cuz you bought the game now you must be very conscious of what you bought, or i guess now not everyone playing hon bought the game. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
 Seemed like a really nice person. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On August 09 2011 13:43 wonderwall wrote: What do you make of invoker in dota then? ........In Carl's case, you need like about 200+ apm to get to use more than 4 spells instantly in battle (and some good amount of practice time+memory to pull it off, and also, they are mostly AOE spell ie timing+positioning is very important, unlike this s2's new hero mostly single target spells). If you cannot see the huge difference between these 2 heroes and how their role fit in to their hero universe....never mind, i shall shut up now. On August 09 2011 13:47 NotJack wrote: Heh I thought that instantly after reading that too, but I figured he didn't know otherwise he wouldn't have said it XP i am sorry. obviously i know nothing about dota and hon. please forgive me for my ignorance. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On August 09 2011 13:49 wooozy wrote: what does MK (and DM) being released two weeks ago have anything to do with being in panic mode? they've been releasing a new hero every two weeks and are simply continuing to do so. well in fairness i joined hon about 1 month ago so i am not entirely sure that they have been releasing new hero every 2 weeks (which is a very bad practice imo). | ||
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NotJack
United States737 Posts
On August 09 2011 20:32 BurningSera wrote: ........In Carl's case, you need like about 200+apm to get to use like more than 4 spells (and some good amount of practice time+memory to pull off). If you cannot see the huge difference between these 2 heroes and how their role fit in to their hero universe....never mind, i shall shut up now. Not only do you not need 200 gpm to Invoker well, your first post said that having 8 skills is messy, while Invoker has 10. If you're going to make bad points, at least make sure there's no gaping holes in logic. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On August 09 2011 20:42 NotJack wrote: Not only do you not need 200 gpm to Invoker well, your first post said that having 8 skills is messy, while Invoker has 10. If you're going to make bad points, at least make sure there's no gaping holes in logic. edited O.o didnt expect quick reply from us time. when i said 'messy', it is obvious that i am not solely talking about the '8 skills', i am referring to the overall hero concept. invo has 10skills yes, but it is VERY HARD to pull him off. this new hero? ohyes, maybe he is not released yet, but s2 will make sure he is noob-friendly. i have no doubt about that. again, please forgive me for my ignorance of knowing nothing about dota and hon. | ||
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NotJack
United States737 Posts
On August 09 2011 20:46 BurningSera wrote: edited O.o didnt expect quick reply from us time. when i said 'messy', it is obvious that i am not solely talking the '8 skills', i am referring to the overall hero concept. invo has 10skills yes, but it is VERY HARD to pull him off. this new hero? ohyes, maybe he is not released yet, but s2 will make sure he is nooby-friendly. i have no doubt about that. again, please forgive me for my ignorance of knowing nothing about dota and hon. Epic ro32 gsl too epic to sleep =P But what I was saying was your point was so simple and flawed that you should've expected someone to point that out. Aside from that the two heroes are nothing alike, and MoA's two-versions of each ability shares cooldowns. More importantly which the preview doesn't show are the high mana costs when compared to his sub-par stat growth for ranged agi carries which helps balance things out. Very fun hero that is very unique and has lots of potential. Best hero released in a while, although there's other cool ones to come. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On August 09 2011 20:53 NotJack wrote: Epic ro32 gsl too epic to sleep =P But what I was saying was your point was so simple and flawed that you should've expected someone to point that out. Aside from that the two heroes are nothing alike, and MoA's two-versions of each ability shares cooldowns. More importantly which the preview doesn't show are the high mana costs when compared to his sub-par stat growth for ranged agi carries which helps balance things out. Very fun hero that is very unique and has lots of potential. Best hero released in a while, although there's other cool ones to come. man i was shocked by the video when she said he has 2x global skill. i admire the balance in dota so much but i guess i shouldnt put the same kind of expection on hon now. i am pretty sure i will have fun with this hero tho  (after the free release ;s)HB new alt, on the other hand, looks realllllly good!!! | ||
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Antimage
Canada1293 Posts
On August 09 2011 11:39 Pokebunny wrote: andromeda is definitely not easy x__x i guess in low level games, but playing andro WELL is hard as hell recommended beginner heroes - blacksmith, witch slayer, plague rider, swiftblade, hammerstorm I guess, pollywog priest, electrician, pestilence.. these are just heroes with simple skills that require less decision making / situational use to be successful. I was really good at dota but coming to hon and not rly knowing what any hero did, i'll tell you first hand if you're used to this type of game (and hence, wouldn't appreciate a game where people left in the first 5 minutes - pubs), then you should play ladder and pick - range heroes (prefereably an int hero with a stun) - so you are a support hero - you usually don't initiate as you are a tank, which is good b/c not having the game knolwedge, you wouldn't know WHEN to initiate - do NOT pick an agi hero because it requires really good judgement of when to engage/run in battles in the beginning of the game - judgement you can't make when you don't know much about the game - a different hero every time or every other time - play a hero till you get the feel for it. choose your next hero based on how much you like what you think you saw someone else pick. | ||
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hideo
Canada1641 Posts
Anyways... I agree that it seems messy. It's like they took a bunch of utility skills and just mashed them together haphazardly, with no regard for the overall theme or aesthetic of the hero. A belated RIP to Travitus as well. Very sad story, and I hope something comes of the investigation, however unlikely it might be. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
LGD counter grabs xiao8 and DDC from IG, and there are rumors that they're going to find 2 more people and reform the team with ZSMJ However, due to visa issues, LGD will not be going to gamescon and will be replaced by some french team virus IG's new team is now the ridiculously stacked YYF,830,CH,ChuaN,ZHOU,430,SANSHENG, pick any 5 Speaking of stacked teams, DK is almost officially dead now that KingJ and BenZ have also taken "leave", perhaps to join LGD or something They really need to start using player contracts or the scene is going to just become a huge clusterfuck | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
And they may be stacked but meh, DotA isn't a competition of individual prowness (unless you were KuroKy in Ks.int). | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On August 10 2011 00:03 Kupon3ss wrote: New ridiculous developments in the dota scene LGD counter grabs xiao8 and DDC from IG, and there are rumors that they're going to find 2 more people and reform the team with ZSMJ However, due to visa issues, LGD will not be going to gamescon and will be replaced by some french team virus IG's new team is now the ridiculously stacked YYF,830,CH,ChuaN,ZHOU,430,SANSHENG, pick any 5 Speaking of stacked teams, DK is almost officially dead now that KingJ and BenZ have also taken "leave", perhaps to join LGD or something They really need to start using player contracts or the scene is going to just become a huge clusterfuck most players have made a name for themselves such that everybody except panda, ehome, we , is stacked. yes they need contracts | ||
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xZiGGY
United Kingdom801 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On August 09 2011 13:43 wonderwall wrote: What do you make of invoker in dota then? Invoker was untouched for quite a long time after its release. The sheer number of skills really only mattered when the game dragged on that long. | ||
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