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dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
August 09 2011 15:51 GMT
#29461
On August 10 2011 00:03 Kupon3ss wrote:
New ridiculous developments in the dota scene
LGD counter grabs xiao8 and DDC from IG, and there are rumors that they're going to find 2 more people and reform the team with ZSMJ
However, due to visa issues, LGD will not be going to gamescon and will be replaced by some french team virus
IG's new team is now the ridiculously stacked YYF,830,CH,ChuaN,ZHOU,430,SANSHENG, pick any 5
Speaking of stacked teams, DK is almost officially dead now that KingJ and BenZ have also taken "leave", perhaps to join LGD or something

They really need to start using player contracts or the scene is going to just become a huge clusterfuck


Hopefully it makes gamescom actually exciting and not just a chinese pubstomp
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 09 2011 15:53 GMT
#29462
On August 10 2011 00:49 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 13:43 wonderwall wrote:
Icefrog did a GREAT job. unlike this new hero from s2 ._. putting 8skills on 1 hero is just messy. very messy.


What do you make of invoker in dota then?


Invoker was untouched for quite a long time after its release. The sheer number of skills really only mattered when the game dragged on that long.

untouched? all i remember was people using double meteor
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 16:05:53
August 09 2011 15:59 GMT
#29463
On August 10 2011 00:53 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 00:49 Judicator wrote:
On August 09 2011 13:43 wonderwall wrote:
Icefrog did a GREAT job. unlike this new hero from s2 ._. putting 8skills on 1 hero is just messy. very messy.


What do you make of invoker in dota then?


Invoker was untouched for quite a long time after its release. The sheer number of skills really only mattered when the game dragged on that long.

untouched? all i remember was people using double meteor


Nobody played him at upper levels or properly until Piecat started using him in then IDEC iirc.

Please, people used Huskar and we all know how that shit went down.

Edit:
I want to say it's because TC and Batrider came in at the time, or maybe it was something else, but I remember when Invoker was first put out people didn't really touch him because of some other and more OP shit was going down.

Edit 2:

He came out during 6.50, yeah he saw no play as long as 52e was the competitive map.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 09 2011 16:03 GMT
#29464
On August 10 2011 00:59 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 00:53 rabidch wrote:
On August 10 2011 00:49 Judicator wrote:
On August 09 2011 13:43 wonderwall wrote:
Icefrog did a GREAT job. unlike this new hero from s2 ._. putting 8skills on 1 hero is just messy. very messy.


What do you make of invoker in dota then?


Invoker was untouched for quite a long time after its release. The sheer number of skills really only mattered when the game dragged on that long.

untouched? all i remember was people using double meteor


Nobody played him at upper levels or properly until Piecat started using him in then IDEC iirc.

Please, people used Huskar and we all know how that shit went down.

I want to say it's because TC and Batrider came in at the time, or maybe it was something else, but I remember when Invoker was first put out people didn't really touch him because of some other and more OP shit was going down.

im talking about the first iteration of invoker. you know, the one with 27 invokeable spells
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 16:09:27
August 09 2011 16:07 GMT
#29465
You mean the very first time before he was removed until 6.50?

If so, I didn't play at the time so I wouldn't know.
Get it by your hands...
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
August 09 2011 16:16 GMT
#29466
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/news/16462-xiao8-and-ddc-moves-to-lgd

TLDR LGD is reformed, iG loses 2 members, other 2 are from NV.CN and Tyloo to make up the new 5 players on LGD. ZSMJ still captain.
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
August 09 2011 16:37 GMT
#29467
i only play dota pub for about half a year and never caught up with pros. anyone mind giving a bit of background for the best players in the past year? all i know from my friend is that the most popular strategy nowadays is 3 carries and 2 roaming support that puts wards everywhere
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 09 2011 16:44 GMT
#29468
On August 10 2011 01:37 saltywet wrote:
i only play dota pub for about half a year and never caught up with pros. anyone mind giving a bit of background for the best players in the past year? all i know from my friend is that the most popular strategy nowadays is 3 carries and 2 roaming support that puts wards everywhere

your friend lives 1.5 years in the past
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 17:27:19
August 09 2011 17:17 GMT
#29469
On August 10 2011 01:44 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 01:37 saltywet wrote:
i only play dota pub for about half a year and never caught up with pros. anyone mind giving a bit of background for the best players in the past year? all i know from my friend is that the most popular strategy nowadays is 3 carries and 2 roaming support that puts wards everywhere

your friend lives 1.5 years in the past


Ya most strats now are midgame push, high mobility gank strats with a carry that does very well with few items.

Edit: MYM vs GGNET casted by Synderen (<3) now at http://www.own3d.tv/live/19674/MYM.TV_with_Synderen
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
August 09 2011 18:24 GMT
#29470
lol... rage buyback from demon. erry game.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 09 2011 19:34 GMT
#29471
On August 10 2011 03:24 hideo wrote:
lol... rage buyback from demon. erry game.

demon is hardly taking this game seriously
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 23:10:26
August 09 2011 23:09 GMT
#29472
I just randomed monkey king, apparently he is f2p now, and my team tried to kick me, some of them wanted to try him and were a bit mad that i wouldn't swap.... I had a lot of trouble at first trying to chain his skills together when ganking, gave up and just used whatever skill was necessary and did much better. I went to practice mode and tried to chain his skills together and still had trouble, i think i need to look up some video tutorials. I thought i have seen people in practice mode boost levels/get lots of money but i could not find a button for it, is there some "show me the money" command I need? Or am i just blind/
I can already see the ending
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
August 09 2011 23:14 GMT
#29473
On August 10 2011 08:09 DCLXVI wrote:
I just randomed monkey king, apparently he is f2p now, and my team tried to kick me, some of them wanted to try him and were a bit mad that i wouldn't swap.... I had a lot of trouble at first trying to chain his skills together when ganking, gave up and just used whatever skill was necessary and did much better. I went to practice mode and tried to chain his skills together and still had trouble, i think i need to look up some video tutorials. I thought i have seen people in practice mode boost levels/get lots of money but i could not find a button for it, is there some "show me the money" command I need? Or am i just blind/


there's a button in the top left corner. sometimes it won't show up for me either but i just hit f10 a few times and it'll be there
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 09 2011 23:16 GMT
#29474
if the button isn't in the topleft hit f6 twice and it'll pop up
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
August 10 2011 05:37 GMT
#29475
So I'm considering playing HoN but I hate DotA and like LoL, will I like this game? I just like fun hero mechanics/fights and whatnot.
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
August 10 2011 05:42 GMT
#29476
Why do you hate Dota and like LoL. You haven't told us much information here.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
August 10 2011 05:48 GMT
#29477
On August 10 2011 14:42 SirMilford wrote:
Why do you hate Dota and like LoL. You haven't told us much information here.

I hate DotA because it seemed very clunky/sloppy/uninteresting every time I played it -- I probably disliked it the most because I was very into 1v1 WC3 and frowned upon "silly custom games" more than anything... a lot of my bad friends, who went on to be bads at WoW, were really into DotA and that just furthered my belief that it was a game for newbs. I don't hold that belief any more, I'm just explaining my history ;p

I like LoL because it has a great art style (HoN has great graphics as well), it is very often updated with a new hero which is amazing for keeping the game from growing stale, and LoL has the rune/mastery/summoner spell deal that lets you significantly customize the playstyle of your hero, moreso than just by item builds (does HoN have anything like this? I'm clueless).

www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
August 10 2011 05:53 GMT
#29478
Hon doesn't have any of that customization outside of the game. You work with Item and Skill builds inside the game instead. New Heroes are coming out at roughly once a week now and the last few have been pretty fun (master of arms and monkey king).

Hon's items are a bit different though. There are barely any "stat stick" items which just give stats and passive effects. There's lots of unique effects and activated abilities.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
August 10 2011 05:55 GMT
#29479
Once a week, holy shit o_O

That's cool though, I haven't been able to take a look at the items. One of my worries is that HoN copies DotA too much -- I also like LoL because it is its own game (as far as I can tell), and didn't copy the dota terrain 100% like HoN seems to.

Does Hon have many characters that are basically rip-offs of DotA characters? Did it try to just port DotA to the HD generation? That's my main concern.
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
August 10 2011 06:04 GMT
#29480
Honestly, if you didn't like dota you won't like hon. It sounds like some of your criticism of dota is unfounded though and you might enjoy hon if you tried it. In answer to your question a large amount of heroes were ported initially and some more were added in then S2 started adding in their own new heroes. Some of the S2 ones are pretty awesome though, Bombardier comes to mind.
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