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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 24 2011 15:02 GMT
#25161
Great suggestions so far. Merlini is pretty much the best zeus player in history so reading even outdated material would be fine.

I guess the only tip I would add that hasn't been said is that zeus is more about how you play than the item builds. How you position or when you enter fights is much more important because his spell range and damage output is so high.

Wait for dota2. You will be better for it. Unless you have friends to play those other games.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
April 24 2011 15:13 GMT
#25162
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
April 24 2011 16:09 GMT
#25163
It's very subjective and everyone has an opinion on DotA vs HoN vs LoL vs Dota2. If you want a trial to check out HoN, send me a pm. Trial doesn't allow stat games so it'll be with leavers and scrubs, but at least you can see what the game is about without paying.
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 24 2011 21:31 GMT
#25164
On April 24 2011 23:19 Benjef wrote:

Also I only play Dota atm, is it worth playing HoN or LoL? Or just wait for Dota2?


If you plan on playing for the long haul, go for DotA2. I don't think anyone will disagree with that.

Play LoL/HoN if you have friends playing there, otherwise just brush up on your DotA skills in prep for DotA2.
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 21:59:22
April 24 2011 21:58 GMT
#25165
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2011 03:11 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 00:51 Vain wrote:
On April 21 2011 13:36 Durak wrote:
On April 21 2011 13:30 Zlasher wrote:
Can someone resend a [TL] invite? I just need a group of people to get better and get me back up to 1500, too many positive games that aren't leading to wins for me =\

Don't worry about stats so much and don't listen to anyone in HoN. Everyone is bad, thinks they're amazing, and loves to yell out orders.

I'm 1800+ on both my accounts and I've been playing with some 800-1500 MMR friends trying to teach them/playing for fun. I'll add you if you're interested but, again, you shouldn't be too serious.


Is there a free spot left? I'm a 1600~1700MMR player but i can at least admit i still suck lol

There's a free spot if the timing works out. I have lots of friends who play and we just form teams of whoever is around. I'll add you and I'll give you a shout when I'm forming a group.

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On April 22 2011 00:10 ZeaL. wrote:
On April 21 2011 13:36 Durak wrote:
On April 21 2011 13:30 Zlasher wrote:
Can someone resend a [TL] invite? I just need a group of people to get better and get me back up to 1500, too many positive games that aren't leading to wins for me =\

Don't worry about stats so much and don't listen to anyone in HoN. Everyone is bad, thinks they're amazing, and loves to yell out orders.

I'm 1800+ on both my accounts and I've been playing with some 800-1500 MMR friends trying to teach them/playing for fun. I'll add you if you're interested but, again, you shouldn't be too serious.


I think being serious kind of ruins some of the fun in Hon.

I don't really agree. I think "being serious" is often confused with "being a tool." Everyone is serious in that they want to win but most people you think of as serious are really just tools. Basically it comes down to personalities.

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On April 22 2011 00:10 ZeaL. wrote:
Noobstomping at low rating psr lets you relax and do stupid shit like codex+blink on moraxus or mock on soul reaper.


and

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On April 22 2011 00:51 Vain wrote:
If you don't want to play seriously...

I always play seriously. I don't go and play low ranked games just to play wacky builds and still stomp people because I'm frustrated at my MMR. What I'm trying to say there is that my friends are bad to mediocre and if you want to play with us, you can't expect to win every game. We always have fun and I'm always teaching them but that doesn't mean I'm doing stupid builds every game. That's not to say I don't try out suboptimal items if we're going to win anyway but I don't throw games.

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On April 22 2011 00:51 Vain wrote:
Btw low psr doesn't meant they suck. I've played some 3v3's with 1300 psr players who really know how to play the game

I know what you're saying because I've played lots of games with people rated all over the spectrum. However, low MMR does mean they suck even though that "suck" is all relative.

There are some 1300 MMR people who have a great concept of the item/skill builds/playstyle of their hero -- better than some 1700. The reason why they suck is because they have terrible mechanics and, also often, game-sense. They haven't played enough games to be able to feel when to go in, when to use their skills, how to use their skills, and basically how to react to the current situation. For example, I've been playing with a friend for about a month and he's learnt some good strategy and concepts. The problem is, he hasn't played enough games to become intuitively good so in a team-fight/abrupt situation, he doesn't have time to think and he reacts poorly.


hope you see you online sometime. Btw the 5 rampage thing was against 1600~1700 players so not total noobs^^. They just left when they still had a good chance lol
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Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 23:32:40
April 24 2011 23:32 GMT
#25166
Did whispering helm ever stack with frostburn (sange and yasha??) for ranged heroes in Dota?

Also, is the geobane + frostwolf skull combo (manta + skadi I think) as popular in Dota as it is in HoN?
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
April 25 2011 00:10 GMT
#25167
On April 25 2011 08:32 Gandalf wrote:
Did whispering helm ever stack with frostburn (sange and yasha??) for ranged heroes in Dota?

Also, is the geobane + frostwolf skull combo (manta + skadi I think) as popular in Dota as it is in HoN?


In dota, the maim effect from sange is chance-to-proc, and thus it works with a few orb effects, but lifesteal overrides it.

Yes, manta and skadi is viable and popular, possibly even more so in dota because lifesteal stacks with skadi slow on ranged heroes.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 25 2011 01:13 GMT
#25168
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LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2011 01:27 GMT
#25169
where are you guys playing dota?
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
April 25 2011 01:35 GMT
#25170
On April 25 2011 10:27 tube wrote:
where are you guys playing dota?

guhrena or dota$$$$
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
April 25 2011 01:59 GMT
#25171
whats the vent/etc?
i play cash now
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
April 25 2011 02:11 GMT
#25172
On April 25 2011 10:59 tube wrote:
whats the vent/etc?
i play cash now

TL Teamspeak channel dbhs
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 02:49:35
April 25 2011 02:25 GMT
#25173
whats the password?

nvm
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
aweShock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8 Posts
April 25 2011 02:48 GMT
#25174
how does one simply walk into team liquid hon clan
sinking puts banging sluts
alia
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States294 Posts
April 25 2011 03:29 GMT
#25175
Streaming scrim with random bnet clan we just kind of stomped. ~_~

http://www.justin.tv/aliastar
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 25 2011 03:38 GMT
#25176
TL DotA is at TL Diamond Bar now, same pass as dbhs I believe.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
April 25 2011 03:39 GMT
#25177
On April 25 2011 12:38 rabidch wrote:
TL DotA is at TL Diamond Bar now, same pass as dbhs I believe.


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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 25 2011 03:56 GMT
#25178
pass for the channel?
Get it by your hands...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 25 2011 04:32 GMT
#25179
IM IN.... TMM is down though QQQQ
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 25 2011 05:16 GMT
#25180
REVIVAL OF TL DOTA???????
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
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