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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 23 2011 03:39 GMT
#25141
FUCK YEAH SEAKING
rock those water heroes
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 04:00:41
April 23 2011 03:39 GMT
#25142
nah you're just silly. cannon bombardier is so awesome

edit: oh and yeah, sr's alt is pretty cool
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 23 2011 03:43 GMT
#25143
On April 23 2011 12:17 Ganfei2 wrote:
The hag avatar is embarrassingly bad and a waste of coins imo. Of course, a lot of people seem to like it. The only alt. avatars I think improve upon the original skins are tundra, bombardier, and swiftblade.

SOUL REAPER best alt avatar..

+
pyro
magmus?
('''(G_G/'''')
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 23 2011 05:10 GMT
#25144
Magmus's is best alt >: Makes me all nostalgia for Sand King
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 23 2011 05:17 GMT
#25145
new hero seems really powerful

lot of versatility and late-game carry potential imo
Delamos
Profile Joined November 2010
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 06:22:20
April 23 2011 06:15 GMT
#25146
Nvm.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
April 23 2011 11:48 GMT
#25147
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=251203
This is an amazing suggestion
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
April 23 2011 12:33 GMT
#25148
Tremble nerfs seem underwhelming. They've made mounds a bit ridiculous but don't know how it will affect him overall.

On an unrelated note iss there any hope for Kraken? I played around with him in nostats for a bit trying out some builds and he just doesn't seem very good. Tsunami Charge is easy to miss and is situational, it's a bit like waiting for the stars to align and them to move out of position so you can get a good charge. Rest of his skills are pretty weak and the ult is nice if you can hit a bit group of people but the delay makes it weaker and people tend to spread out anyway.

It seems like he could use a rework.
TheConquereer
Profile Joined May 2010
Spain183 Posts
April 23 2011 15:37 GMT
#25149
On April 23 2011 21:33 wonderwall wrote:

It seems like he could use a rework.


Kraken is a rework already xD
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
April 24 2011 00:59 GMT
#25150
Kraken is a good hero still. He can perform most of his duties with minimal farm and still hits like a truck (250+ damage with phase alone when he splashes).
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
April 24 2011 06:56 GMT
#25151
HoN Balance forums: Where 1600 players flame and call each other bad and post (stupid) suggestions rather than discuss actual balance
Is there any place to read HoN balance discussions where legitimately good people post (competitive level not omgpubstar 1800 mmr)
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 24 2011 07:16 GMT
#25152
No clue, I'm not one to complain about balance in hon since i'm bad, but what does everyone think of silhouette? The kunai around her do quite a bit of damage and her E skill is pretty baller as well, then a tree stun/escape.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 08:33:48
April 24 2011 08:24 GMT
#25153
No clue, I'm not one to complain about balance in hon since i'm bad, but what does everyone think of silhouette? The kunai around her do quite a bit of damage and her E skill is pretty baller as well, then a tree stun/escape.


The Ult is annoying as you can't hotkey the illusion. The ult and it's usage will probably set her apart as a hero when determining good players from the average. It's painful to see her in pubs though as she has an even lower hp count than Flint iirc?

Edit: Tried out some new stuff with Kraken. Picked him with a friend as Tempest and double PK+Ult silliness is hilarious. Tempest ult pulls them to the center so they're all stacked up for kraken ult and Meteor+Splash is ridiculous. They didn't think to simply spread out and so we won easily. In terms of builds I'm rushing a pk then getting as tanky as possible with HOTBL/Shrunken/Shamans depending. Is carry Kraken viable?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 12:49:19
April 24 2011 12:23 GMT
#25154
+ Show Spoiler +

<02:05:34>
"GhostKorean1": yo


<02:05:35>
"GhostKorean1": rabid


<02:05:38>
"GhostKorean1": youre a dirty ass liar


<02:05:42>
"GhostKorean1": University of California, Los Angeles


<02:05:46>
"GhostKorean1": RabidCh ('12) - Computer Science


<02:05:48>
"coolcrimefighter": what a bad school


<02:05:56>
"coolcrimefighter": oh i know RabidCh


<02:06:02>
"GhostKorean1": yeah


<02:06:03>
"ase?": LOL


<02:06:05>
"GhostKorean1": hes a dirty ass liar


<02:06:09>
"GhostKorean1": like this guy named cody


<02:06:09>
"ase?": OLOLOLOLOL


<02:06:17>
"GhostKorean1": yo


<02:06:20>
"GhostKorean1": iknew you were lyign


<02:06:20>
"GhostKorean1": ya


<02:06:22>
"GhostKorean1": i swear


<02:06:23>
"yomi": yoyo


<02:06:24>
"GhostKorean1": u went to ucla


<02:06:27>
"ase?": oh hey richard


<02:06:30>
"ase?": want to cash with us


<02:06:33>
"yomi": k


<02:06:33>
"coolcrimefighter": richarddd


<02:06:50>
"coolcrimefighter": which room


<02:07:34>
"GhostKorean1": dirty ass liars


<02:07:40>
"coolcrimefighter": i think tahts it


<02:07:45>
"GhostKorean1": just host yo


<02:07:55>
"GhostKorean1": my rating is 997


<02:07:56>
"GhostKorean1": noooo


<02:08:07>
"ase?": LOL


<02:08:16>
"coolcrimefighter": as you may have guessed


<02:08:19>
"coolcrimefighter": i do not actually teach at caltech


<02:08:24>
"ase?": IM EATING


<02:08:25>
"GhostKorean1": What?!?!


<02:08:29>
"yomi": wtf


<02:08:31>
"GhostKorean1": Are you telling me


<02:08:33>
"yomi": you don't?


<02:08:36>
"GhostKorean1": You also are not a 23 year old prodigy


<02:08:43>
"GhostKorean1": who graduated hs at the age of 13


<02:08:50>
"GhostKorean1": and went through grad school in 3 years


<02:08:57>
"coolcrimefighter": would you ahve believed me


<02:09:00>
"coolcrimefighter": if i had a wiki page


<02:09:06>
"GhostKorean1": no


<02:09:09>
"GhostKorean1": youre a dirty liar


<02:09:13>
"GhostKorean1": everything you say is a lie

sunye, learning that you cant always trust what people say, even if they are a professor that teaches at caltech



On April 24 2011 15:56 GhostKorean wrote:
HoN Balance forums: Where 1600 players flame and call each other bad and post (stupid) suggestions rather than discuss actual balance
Is there any place to read HoN balance discussions where legitimately good people post (competitive level not omgpubstar 1800 mmr)

legitimately good people know not to post about these things, similarly to how sc whatever pros dont really post about balance in the sc whatever strategy forum.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 24 2011 13:32 GMT
#25155
On April 24 2011 21:23 rabidch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

<02:05:34>
"GhostKorean1": yo


<02:05:35>
"GhostKorean1": rabid


<02:05:38>
"GhostKorean1": youre a dirty ass liar


<02:05:42>
"GhostKorean1": University of California, Los Angeles


<02:05:46>
"GhostKorean1": RabidCh ('12) - Computer Science


<02:05:48>
"coolcrimefighter": what a bad school


<02:05:56>
"coolcrimefighter": oh i know RabidCh


<02:06:02>
"GhostKorean1": yeah


<02:06:03>
"ase?": LOL


<02:06:05>
"GhostKorean1": hes a dirty ass liar


<02:06:09>
"GhostKorean1": like this guy named cody


<02:06:09>
"ase?": OLOLOLOLOL


<02:06:17>
"GhostKorean1": yo


<02:06:20>
"GhostKorean1": iknew you were lyign


<02:06:20>
"GhostKorean1": ya


<02:06:22>
"GhostKorean1": i swear


<02:06:23>
"yomi": yoyo


<02:06:24>
"GhostKorean1": u went to ucla


<02:06:27>
"ase?": oh hey richard


<02:06:30>
"ase?": want to cash with us


<02:06:33>
"yomi": k


<02:06:33>
"coolcrimefighter": richarddd


<02:06:50>
"coolcrimefighter": which room


<02:07:34>
"GhostKorean1": dirty ass liars


<02:07:40>
"coolcrimefighter": i think tahts it


<02:07:45>
"GhostKorean1": just host yo


<02:07:55>
"GhostKorean1": my rating is 997


<02:07:56>
"GhostKorean1": noooo


<02:08:07>
"ase?": LOL


<02:08:16>
"coolcrimefighter": as you may have guessed


<02:08:19>
"coolcrimefighter": i do not actually teach at caltech


<02:08:24>
"ase?": IM EATING


<02:08:25>
"GhostKorean1": What?!?!


<02:08:29>
"yomi": wtf


<02:08:31>
"GhostKorean1": Are you telling me


<02:08:33>
"yomi": you don't?


<02:08:36>
"GhostKorean1": You also are not a 23 year old prodigy


<02:08:43>
"GhostKorean1": who graduated hs at the age of 13


<02:08:50>
"GhostKorean1": and went through grad school in 3 years


<02:08:57>
"coolcrimefighter": would you ahve believed me


<02:09:00>
"coolcrimefighter": if i had a wiki page


<02:09:06>
"GhostKorean1": no


<02:09:09>
"GhostKorean1": youre a dirty liar


<02:09:13>
"GhostKorean1": everything you say is a lie

sunye, learning that you cant always trust what people say, even if they are a professor that teaches at caltech




HAHA no way, I missed that?!
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
April 24 2011 14:14 GMT
#25156
New pred avatar sucks balls. I hate it so much. I was hoping for pred to be in a bunny costume...
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 14:19:54
April 24 2011 14:19 GMT
#25157
Anyone got decent item builds for Zues? I currently run 1 Null and 2 bracers and then get Agah and Linkins if the game keeps going. Even though I get a high health pool, i always get targeted first and die ><.

Also decent Alch build?

Also I only play Dota atm, is it worth playing HoN or LoL? Or just wait for Dota2?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 24 2011 14:23 GMT
#25158
Merlini wrote a nice Zeus guide that's still pretty relevant with a few minor tweaks; it's on PlayDota.com. Everything you need to learn about Zeus is on there. If you're getting targeted first, it just means you suck at spacing and positioning.
Get it by your hands...
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
April 24 2011 14:36 GMT
#25159
Bracers are pretty bad, in 90% of situations similar items like urn, bottle, and magic wand turn out to be better. Typically Zeuses rush for blink (or occasionally force staff), and then head towards bigger items like guinsoo, scepter, refresher etc.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 24 2011 14:42 GMT
#25160
Zeus: stats items, bottle, boots, treads or arcane boots, then dagger/force staff, then soos/aga/ghost+more late game items.

You should be poking in from the back, like with most casters you die super fast if focused. Getting force staff+blink is rly important for doing damage and staying alive.

Alch: stats, boots, vanguard, clock if you need, radi, ac, late game items.
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