• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:01
CET 07:01
KST 15:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival8TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest1Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou21Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET10Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO8
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival Is there anyway to get a private coach? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals ASL final tickets help Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Roaring Currents ASL final Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1601 users

[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1235

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1233 1234 1235 1236 1237 1664 Next
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17397 Posts
April 05 2011 14:02 GMT
#24681
On April 05 2011 12:58 Ym1r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:39 Dacendoran wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:44 deconduo wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:35 Dacendoran wrote:
Any way to download no stats replays t.t?
I arrowed an invis scout after he was invis for a good 15+ seconds and would love to get the replay, the match id was match id:35111504 for anyone that can help


http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=35111504

This is my 5th game ever as valk, haha watch the replay at 16:40 (replay timer) on scouts POV the camera following him (the point after he tries to ult arach at bottom)

On April 05 2011 10:30 Manit0u wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:24 Dacendoran wrote:
Testie I'm watching game 3 of SK vs DM your most recent games and panda is skilling so weird, could you elaborate as to why x.x
he goes w e w e w q. I dont get it, maybe someone else could help me understand


Flick is easier to pull off early on, and it's a great tool for positioning/setting up a kill.
Cannonball is there as a follow up move to flick, escape mechanism and teamfights.
Q (whatever it's called) is used for easier creepwave cleanup/lasthits/extra range, extra damage and, later on, disruption (by splitting teams for example, don't remember if it also stops TP).

Hope it helps.


Yes but leveling up flick doesnt really add much benefit this early on as far as I can tell, it just lowers the cooldown (I think) and the amount of armor reduced. I guess maybe it was for bursty killing from the cannonball? But no ult at 6, maybe he didnt have enough mana

Edit:No ult at 7 O.O MoM and BKB what teh eff


flick gives more movement slow, and I think it throws the target further back (per level), it allows for an easier kill than flurry does early game, most of the time anyway.


More slow, more armour reduction and reduced cooldown per level to be precise.
It's also relatively cheap, has practically no drawbacks (like Flurry and Cannonball do) and is one of the best ways to set up a kill early game, both for initiation and chasing purposes.
All in all, it's the most versatile of his skills.

No ult at 7 is pretty ok too, since it's low range, long cooldown and channeling, it's hard to pull off early on, especially in a trilane.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2011 17:34 GMT
#24682
On April 05 2011 22:50 ahswtini wrote:
Really hope DotA 2 won't bomb epicly


IT.
WILL.
NOT.
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
April 05 2011 17:45 GMT
#24683
On April 05 2011 22:39 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
The only people that play now are myself, LaikOmg, Tundie, and Shinbi.



This is filled with such lies.
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
April 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#24684
Sk vs MSI GAME 2 HONCAST
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 05 2011 22:04 GMT
#24685
On April 06 2011 07:01 buckbo1604 wrote:
Sk vs MSI GAME 2 HONCAST

Wow! I am acquainted with a member of the SK team! Testie is quite the hero.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
April 05 2011 22:20 GMT
#24686
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)
Hates Fun🤔
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2011 22:38 GMT
#24687
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 05 2011 22:51 GMT
#24688
On April 06 2011 07:38 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.

stfu tygs-klazart
RTS is called RTS to distinguish it from turn base Strategy games and the like that dominated strategy games in those days, and the name isnt really that specific anyway

Team Unit Strategy or something similar would work because it distinguishes from the original wc3 rts in that it is 1. team based 2. singular unit control based 3. fuck everything is strategy but it refers to its roots (rts games like wc3 and sc)

and its easy to say invisible protus sniper
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2011 23:03 GMT
#24689
On April 06 2011 07:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 07:38 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.

stfu tygs-klazart
RTS is called RTS to distinguish it from turn base Strategy games and the like that dominated strategy games in those days, and the name isnt really that specific anyway

Team Unit Strategy or something similar would work because it distinguishes from the original wc3 rts in that it is 1. team based 2. singular unit control based 3. fuck everything is strategy but it refers to its roots (rts games like wc3 and sc)

and its easy to say invisible protus sniper


If there is no inhaus tonight I will be disappoint.
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
April 05 2011 23:06 GMT
#24690
On April 06 2011 07:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 07:38 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.

stfu tygs-klazart
RTS is called RTS to distinguish it from turn base Strategy games and the like that dominated strategy games in those days, and the name isnt really that specific anyway

Team Unit Strategy or something similar would work because it distinguishes from the original wc3 rts in that it is 1. team based 2. singular unit control based 3. fuck everything is strategy but it refers to its roots (rts games like wc3 and sc)

and its easy to say invisible protus sniper



protis
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 05 2011 23:11 GMT
#24691
On April 06 2011 08:06 Shinbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 07:51 rabidch wrote:
On April 06 2011 07:38 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.

stfu tygs-klazart
RTS is called RTS to distinguish it from turn base Strategy games and the like that dominated strategy games in those days, and the name isnt really that specific anyway

Team Unit Strategy or something similar would work because it distinguishes from the original wc3 rts in that it is 1. team based 2. singular unit control based 3. fuck everything is strategy but it refers to its roots (rts games like wc3 and sc)

and its easy to say invisible protus sniper



protis

i believe you're describing something else
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 05 2011 23:18 GMT
#24692
Victory + Immortal... tastes so good after you go through this kind of loss streak(playing with 4 newcomers against ppl in the 1700 range):

http://stats.hon-fans.de/index.php?nick=Heen

I need suggestions for fun heroes.. Chipper is the only HoN hero I enjoy playing while being able to kill people easily
('''(G_G/'''')
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7583 Posts
April 05 2011 23:30 GMT
#24693
Depends on style and whatever but I love playing Magmus.

Why is chipper fun for you?
Stuck.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 05 2011 23:33 GMT
#24694
like i said a long time ago
call them dota spinoffs
or dotas for short
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
April 05 2011 23:35 GMT
#24695
Gauntlet's pretty good fun to play - by the sounds of it you only want HoN heroes?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 05 2011 23:38 GMT
#24696
Testis won today without even playing. Sk >>>>msi!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#24697
On April 06 2011 08:33 JeeJee wrote:
like i said a long time ago
call them dota spinoffs
or dotas for short


Get on Garena we should practice some lane combos.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 05 2011 23:50 GMT
#24698
I like playing heroes that benefit a lot from having early momentum, which are usually mid solo heroes. Why do I like chipper? hrmm.. well he's not a dota port so it's a new challenge and the skill ceiling seems to be pretty high?

I have like 10% flint beastwood but I don't enjoy playing that hero all that much any more. I think most of the games I've played him are from banning pick mode when I was still learning heroes.

I think I'll try aluna, torturer, deadwood. How do people usually build deadwood after portal key?
('''(G_G/'''')
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 00:01:57
April 05 2011 23:54 GMT
#24699
On April 06 2011 08:35 ahswtini wrote:
Gauntlet's pretty good fun to play - by the sounds of it you only want HoN heroes?

Gauntlet is an interesting hero but I'd like to see a good replay of him so I can get a better idea of what he's capable of.

Also, random question:
How many times can you hit someone running straight with bombardier's ult? If he's still it hits twice, right? And I have yet to figure out why boomdust is recommended early on. I prefer maxing W right after sticky bomb by lvl 9 for ganking potential. It seems like a crappy skill in combat because of the short cast range. Am I missing something?
('''(G_G/'''')
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 06 2011 00:01 GMT
#24700
re: hon heroes, i'm a big fan of myrm but he's not the type of hero you're looking for. i'd experiment with deadwood and fayde if you want that snowballing-ganker type of hero

tort is quite like ts btw
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Prev 1 1233 1234 1235 1236 1237 1664 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 30
Codebar 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 224
NaDa 43
Noble 20
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm75
League of Legends
JimRising 536
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K502
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor155
Other Games
summit1g9163
WinterStarcraft461
ViBE141
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick778
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 360
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH178
• practicex 45
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 23
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt571
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
1h 59m
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 59m
WardiTV Invitational
5h 59m
CrankTV Team League
6h 59m
BASILISK vs Streamerzone
Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Vitality vs Team Falcon
BSL Team A[vengers]
8h 59m
Gypsy vs nOOB
JDConan vs Scan
RSL Revival
10h 59m
Wardi Open
1d 5h
CrankTV Team League
1d 6h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
EC S1
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.