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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17740 Posts
April 05 2011 14:02 GMT
#24681
On April 05 2011 12:58 Ym1r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:39 Dacendoran wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:44 deconduo wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:35 Dacendoran wrote:
Any way to download no stats replays t.t?
I arrowed an invis scout after he was invis for a good 15+ seconds and would love to get the replay, the match id was match id:35111504 for anyone that can help


http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/match_replay.php?mid=35111504

This is my 5th game ever as valk, haha watch the replay at 16:40 (replay timer) on scouts POV the camera following him (the point after he tries to ult arach at bottom)

On April 05 2011 10:30 Manit0u wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:24 Dacendoran wrote:
Testie I'm watching game 3 of SK vs DM your most recent games and panda is skilling so weird, could you elaborate as to why x.x
he goes w e w e w q. I dont get it, maybe someone else could help me understand


Flick is easier to pull off early on, and it's a great tool for positioning/setting up a kill.
Cannonball is there as a follow up move to flick, escape mechanism and teamfights.
Q (whatever it's called) is used for easier creepwave cleanup/lasthits/extra range, extra damage and, later on, disruption (by splitting teams for example, don't remember if it also stops TP).

Hope it helps.


Yes but leveling up flick doesnt really add much benefit this early on as far as I can tell, it just lowers the cooldown (I think) and the amount of armor reduced. I guess maybe it was for bursty killing from the cannonball? But no ult at 6, maybe he didnt have enough mana

Edit:No ult at 7 O.O MoM and BKB what teh eff


flick gives more movement slow, and I think it throws the target further back (per level), it allows for an easier kill than flurry does early game, most of the time anyway.


More slow, more armour reduction and reduced cooldown per level to be precise.
It's also relatively cheap, has practically no drawbacks (like Flurry and Cannonball do) and is one of the best ways to set up a kill early game, both for initiation and chasing purposes.
All in all, it's the most versatile of his skills.

No ult at 7 is pretty ok too, since it's low range, long cooldown and channeling, it's hard to pull off early on, especially in a trilane.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2011 17:34 GMT
#24682
On April 05 2011 22:50 ahswtini wrote:
Really hope DotA 2 won't bomb epicly


IT.
WILL.
NOT.
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
April 05 2011 17:45 GMT
#24683
On April 05 2011 22:39 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
The only people that play now are myself, LaikOmg, Tundie, and Shinbi.



This is filled with such lies.
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
April 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#24684
Sk vs MSI GAME 2 HONCAST
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 05 2011 22:04 GMT
#24685
On April 06 2011 07:01 buckbo1604 wrote:
Sk vs MSI GAME 2 HONCAST

Wow! I am acquainted with a member of the SK team! Testie is quite the hero.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
April 05 2011 22:20 GMT
#24686
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)
Hates Fun🤔
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2011 22:38 GMT
#24687
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 05 2011 22:51 GMT
#24688
On April 06 2011 07:38 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.

stfu tygs-klazart
RTS is called RTS to distinguish it from turn base Strategy games and the like that dominated strategy games in those days, and the name isnt really that specific anyway

Team Unit Strategy or something similar would work because it distinguishes from the original wc3 rts in that it is 1. team based 2. singular unit control based 3. fuck everything is strategy but it refers to its roots (rts games like wc3 and sc)

and its easy to say invisible protus sniper
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2011 23:03 GMT
#24689
On April 06 2011 07:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 07:38 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.

stfu tygs-klazart
RTS is called RTS to distinguish it from turn base Strategy games and the like that dominated strategy games in those days, and the name isnt really that specific anyway

Team Unit Strategy or something similar would work because it distinguishes from the original wc3 rts in that it is 1. team based 2. singular unit control based 3. fuck everything is strategy but it refers to its roots (rts games like wc3 and sc)

and its easy to say invisible protus sniper


If there is no inhaus tonight I will be disappoint.
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
April 05 2011 23:06 GMT
#24690
On April 06 2011 07:51 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 07:38 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.

stfu tygs-klazart
RTS is called RTS to distinguish it from turn base Strategy games and the like that dominated strategy games in those days, and the name isnt really that specific anyway

Team Unit Strategy or something similar would work because it distinguishes from the original wc3 rts in that it is 1. team based 2. singular unit control based 3. fuck everything is strategy but it refers to its roots (rts games like wc3 and sc)

and its easy to say invisible protus sniper



protis
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 05 2011 23:11 GMT
#24691
On April 06 2011 08:06 Shinbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 07:51 rabidch wrote:
On April 06 2011 07:38 [TYG]Transcend wrote:
On April 06 2011 07:20 paper wrote:
We really need a new genre name for games like DotA and HoN other than the ridiculous MOBA tag that's gaining popularity. Most games are obviously mutliplayer, online, and have some sort of battling (extreme redundancy), and these games aren't even in an arena (doesn't make any sense).

RTSRPG? RPRTS?
HERO-LANE? (lol)


I don't see why we can't just call it RTS? I mean, we can't build anything, but we "micromanage" troop(s).

If not RTS I'd say DotA-esque. AND NO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. HON IS DOTA-ESQUE. LOL IS DOTA-ESQUE. DOTA2 will just be DotA2 come on, OR WELL FINE, DOTA-ESQUE.

Ahhh...
But I'd choose HERO-LANE out of the 3 you mentioned obv.

stfu tygs-klazart
RTS is called RTS to distinguish it from turn base Strategy games and the like that dominated strategy games in those days, and the name isnt really that specific anyway

Team Unit Strategy or something similar would work because it distinguishes from the original wc3 rts in that it is 1. team based 2. singular unit control based 3. fuck everything is strategy but it refers to its roots (rts games like wc3 and sc)

and its easy to say invisible protus sniper



protis

i believe you're describing something else
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 05 2011 23:18 GMT
#24692
Victory + Immortal... tastes so good after you go through this kind of loss streak(playing with 4 newcomers against ppl in the 1700 range):

http://stats.hon-fans.de/index.php?nick=Heen

I need suggestions for fun heroes.. Chipper is the only HoN hero I enjoy playing while being able to kill people easily
('''(G_G/'''')
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
April 05 2011 23:30 GMT
#24693
Depends on style and whatever but I love playing Magmus.

Why is chipper fun for you?
Stuck.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 05 2011 23:33 GMT
#24694
like i said a long time ago
call them dota spinoffs
or dotas for short
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
April 05 2011 23:35 GMT
#24695
Gauntlet's pretty good fun to play - by the sounds of it you only want HoN heroes?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 05 2011 23:38 GMT
#24696
Testis won today without even playing. Sk >>>>msi!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
April 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#24697
On April 06 2011 08:33 JeeJee wrote:
like i said a long time ago
call them dota spinoffs
or dotas for short


Get on Garena we should practice some lane combos.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 05 2011 23:50 GMT
#24698
I like playing heroes that benefit a lot from having early momentum, which are usually mid solo heroes. Why do I like chipper? hrmm.. well he's not a dota port so it's a new challenge and the skill ceiling seems to be pretty high?

I have like 10% flint beastwood but I don't enjoy playing that hero all that much any more. I think most of the games I've played him are from banning pick mode when I was still learning heroes.

I think I'll try aluna, torturer, deadwood. How do people usually build deadwood after portal key?
('''(G_G/'''')
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 00:01:57
April 05 2011 23:54 GMT
#24699
On April 06 2011 08:35 ahswtini wrote:
Gauntlet's pretty good fun to play - by the sounds of it you only want HoN heroes?

Gauntlet is an interesting hero but I'd like to see a good replay of him so I can get a better idea of what he's capable of.

Also, random question:
How many times can you hit someone running straight with bombardier's ult? If he's still it hits twice, right? And I have yet to figure out why boomdust is recommended early on. I prefer maxing W right after sticky bomb by lvl 9 for ganking potential. It seems like a crappy skill in combat because of the short cast range. Am I missing something?
('''(G_G/'''')
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 06 2011 00:01 GMT
#24700
re: hon heroes, i'm a big fan of myrm but he's not the type of hero you're looking for. i'd experiment with deadwood and fayde if you want that snowballing-ganker type of hero

tort is quite like ts btw
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
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