[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1154

On January 24 2011 05:45 Blyadischa wrote:


Talking about HoN, where support players have striders, chalice, and a modified assist gold system that gives more assist gold among other things.

On January 24 2011 09:19 stanley_ wrote:
i thought chalice was soulring.

On January 24 2011 10:26 GhostKorean wrote:

It's a very buffed soulring. Basically it gives most heroes infinite mana

On January 24 2011 09:19 stanley_ wrote:
i thought chalice was soulring.

On January 24 2011 10:26 GhostKorean wrote:

It's a very buffed soulring. Basically it gives most heroes infinite mana

On January 24 2011 11:18 Rybka wrote:


Infinite?! That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

Chalice just keeps the early game a little more active. You take a calculated risk by building it, and if it doesn't pay off in the form of an early kill you're behind. If your opponent goes chalice and you can hold out for bottle it's LOL.

On January 24 2011 16:52 GhostKorean wrote:
They didn't make a hon team right after their huge hon tournament? ~_~ is comp dota in the USA still popular at all?

On January 24 2011 17:29 FetTerBender wrote:
Just recently started playing HoN (im a total newb at ~1600 PSR with < 1.0 KD) and it came to my mind that the SC2 community is pretty awesome. Compared to the HoN palyers, its not even awesome but godlike...

On January 22 2011 17:40 bhp255 wrote:
ALVIE!
whur r u D:
havent seen u on hon like...ever
devaz, riki, etc and i usually play some, u shud tmm w/ us!

On January 24 2011 08:08 rabidch wrote:

What Judicator says is true, but what this says is even truer. DotA doesn't have Striders (thank god) or Chalice.

On January 21 2011 15:06 [TYG]Transcend wrote:


Brohem, you got warned.

And trust me, anything is happier than what Rabid asks for every time he goes on clan chat.

On the happiest note, I am going to buy DotA2 for 4 lucky individuals, stay tuned. Wait, things just got better, 5 people cause we'll need a ringer/sub. The bad part of this is you have to get vouched into DPIH. ): and not be a flaming faggot, that's the hard part.

P.S. umad?

On January 25 2011 05:10 Judicator wrote:


Missing my point, playing support in modern DotA is totally irrelevant to what items you have at your disposal. Support has become infinitely more difficult in execution than in theory with the introduction of Bottle, Wand, etc. The same concept applies to HoN, where the decision making process has become far more complicated since the conception of the support role, that makes playing support more difficult, not easier. The problem lies not within how much gold, items or deaths you have as a support but the effectiveness of those deaths or gold.

I have said this a million times, and I'll say it again, the true difficulty in HoN/Dota isn't mechanics or skill, but rather decision making and that aspect certainly does not get easier with more available items and more heroes.

Case in point was the introduction of the Bottle in DotA, Supports now had the option to pick up bottle at 600 gold, but at 500 gold is boots, 200 gold is crow, 200 gold is also wards, 200 gold is also counter wards. So what do you do as a support player? Or rather you had to decide what was needed to be done. It certainly wasn't as easy as saying, they're ganking so I'll get wards nor was it I'm ganking so I'll buy Bottle, so it complicates the decision making process more.

Asian teams recognized this more than Euros and NAs, hence the difficulties the latter had with the former at LANs. The carry play was pretty much the flash that everyone looked at instead of the fundamentally sound play.

Edit: The sound play being the highly specialized nature of Asian strategies during the laning phase. It's a hybridization of the early Scourge side 6.27 strategies and the 48b Blink Dagger era strategy.