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Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 21:12:39
January 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#23021
On January 22 2011 23:36 Goshawk. wrote:
6.71 is out.

http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.71

+ Show Spoiler +


Abaddon
- Increased Aphotic Shield cast range by 50

Admiral
- Ghost Ship cooldown reduced from 100 to 90
- X Marks The Spot Return icon placement and hotkey adjusted
The return ability now takes the position of the main ability when it is active and uses the same hotkey as the primary spell


Alchemist
- Movement speed reduced by 5
- Chemical Rage bonus HP from 350/700/1050 to 300/600/900

Axe
- Battle Hunger cooldown reduced from 25/20/15/10 to 20/15/10/5

Bane Elemental
- Fiend's Grip Scepter duration from 5 to 6 seconds

Bloodseeker
- Bloodbath now gives 50% of its normal regeneration if he doesn't kill the target but is near it
This change does not affect creeps, it is hero only. By default you gain 10/20/30/40% of a dying hero's max HP if you get the killing blow. If you don't but are within 200 range of the dying hero, you gain 5/10/15/20% of the max HP.


Bounty Hunter
- Track team bonus gold from 50 to 50/100/150 (this is still considered Reliable Gold)

Bristleback
- Back damage prevention from 10/20/30/40 to 16/24/32/40
- Side damage prevention from 5/10/15/20 to 8/12/16/20

Broodmother
- Base movement speed reduced from 315 to 310
- Spawn Spiderlings manacost increased from 75/90/105/120 to 80/100/120/140
- Spawn Spiderlings buff duration increased from 0.9 seconds to 2

Chaos Knight
- Phantasm duration increased from 20 to 24

Chen
- Test of Faith cooldown rescaled from 30/28/26/24 to 24

Dragon Knight
- Dragon Blood regeneration increased from 1/2/3/4 to 2/3/4/5

Dwarven Sniper
- Shrapnel DPS increased from 10/20/30/40 to 12/24/36/48

Earthshaker
- Enchant Totem no longer dispels if you animation cancel

Faceless Void
- Chronosphere duration rescaled from 3/4/5 to 4/4.5/5

Furion
- Sprout can now target the ground again
Fixed a previous issue where it became harder to target a unit reliably

Sprout: A21E


Guardian Wisp
- Tether movement speed bonus reduced from 20/25/30/35 to 15/20/25/30
- Spirits cooldown rescaled from 14 to 20/18/16/14

Huskar
- Lifebreak HP cost rescaled from 40/33/25% to 35/30/25%

Invoker
- Cold Snap no longer triggers on self damage

Jakiro
- Macropyre damage increased from 75/125/175 to 100/140/180

Juggernaut
- Healing Ward regeneration rescaled from 1/2/4/5 to 2/3/4/5%

Keeper of the Light
- Manaleak now applies a stun instead of a slow when the target runs out of mana
Stun duration: 1.25/1.5/1.75/2.0 seconds

- Manaleak duration from 5/6/7/8 to 4/5/6/7
- Manaleak cooldown from 20 to 18

Leshrac
- Diabolic Edict is no longer reduced by damage block items(Stout, Vanguard, etc)
- Fixed Pulse Nova sometimes turning itself off after getting hit by certain ability types
Pulse Nova: A21F
Aghanim: A21G
Deactivate: A21H


Lina Inverse
- Attack range increased from 600 to 625

Lycanthrope
- Feral Impulse damage and attack speed bonus increased from 10/15/20/25% to 15/20/25/30%

Magnataur
- Skewer cooldown reduced from 45 to 35

Meepo
- He can now use cyclone on his other clones

Morphling
- Adaptive Strike damage rescaled
Original: Up to 0.75/1.5/2.25/3.0x Agility
New: 20/40/60/80 + up to 0.5/1/1.5/2.0x Agility


Nerubian Assassin
- Urna Swarm rebalanced
- Maximum summons reduced from 2/4/6/8 to 2/3/4/5
- Infestation dps increased from 20 to 40
- Infestation aoe increased from 275 to 300
- Cooldown rescaled from 14/11/8/5 to 26/19/12/5
- Manacost rescaled from 10 to 40/30/20/10


Obsidian Destroyer
- Arcane Orb cooldown removed

Ogre Magi
- Ignite rescaled
- Damage increased from 10/20/30/40 to 26/32/38/44
- Slow increased from 10/15/20/25% to 20/22/24/26%
- Duration from 7.5 seconds to 4/5/6/7


Phantom Assassin
- Coup de Grace critical strike rescaled from 2/3/4 to 2.5/3.25/4x
- Reworked Blur fade mechanism
Blur:
======
Note: Your hero is no longer always fully faded out. It now only gains partial transparency when the new secondary effect below is active. This still retains the permanent 20/25/30/35% evasion.

Passively blurs your hero when near enemy heroes, causing your model to fade out partially and become hidden on the minimap to enemy player.

Distance: 1600

Has a 1.5 second delay when adding or removing the effect.


Phoenix
- Base strength reduced from 22 to 19
- Sunray activation manacost increased from 10 to 35
- Sunray slow from 14/20/26/32 to 10/16/22/28%
- Fixed a bug that caused Sunray to always affect the first target regardless of magic immunity
- Reduced the duration Sunray slow lasts on you from 2 to 1 second
This is the duration that the slow lasts on you after you are no longer hit by the Sunray.


Pitlord
- Dark Rift cooldown reduced from 180/160/140 to 130

Pugna
- Strength gain reduced from 1.45 to 1.2

Queen of Pain
- Shadow Strike duration damage rescaled from 15/30/45/60 to 30/40/50/60

Rhasta
- Ether Shock damage increased from 75/150/225/300 to 80/160/240/320

Sand King
- Burrowstrike manacost rescaled from 140 to 110/120/130/140

Slark
- Pounce cooldown reduced from 16 to 12

Spirit Breaker
- Strength gain increased from 2.5 to 2.8

Tauren Chieftain
- Movement speed increased by 5

Thrall
- Static Storm cooldown increased from 75 to 85

Tidehunter
- Anchor Smash chance to proc increased from 20 to 25%

Tiny
- Grow bonus damage increased from 40/80/120 to 50/100/150

Tuskarr
- Snowball maximum roll duration reduced to 3 seconds
- Snowball movement speed per extra hero reduced from 100% to 50%
- Frozen Sigil HP reduced from 300 to 220/240/260/280
- Removed the extra landing damage from Walrus Punch

Undying
- Flesh Golem's Plague slow increased from 7% to 9%

Vengeful Spirit
- Removed the small attack damage reduction aspect of Wave of Terror

Viper
- Corrosive Skin damage, slow and magic resistance increased from 5/10/15/20 to 10/15/20/25

Warlock
- Rain of Chaos Aghanim Infernals HP and damage increased from 50% of original to 75%

Zeus
- Static Field aoe from 900 to 1000
- Thundergod's Wrath Scepter from 355/460/570 to 400/500/600





Ancient Janggo of Endurance
- Attribute bonus and attack damage increased from 8 to 9
- Charges increased from 3 to 4

Ethereal Blade
- Ether Blast damage rescaled from 2.5x Agility to 75 + 2.0x Agility

Gem of True Sight
- Gem now has a stock cooldown of 6 minutes

Phase Boots
- Active boost increased from 15 to 16%

Smoke of Deceit
- Reduced detection area from 900 to 850
- Movement bonus increased from 10 to 15%
- Initial cast aoe increased from 900 to 1200


Good to see morph nerfs, but no invoker nerfs make me sad.


Morph nerf isn't much really. It just wont scale as well for late game, the base dmg it gives will make it a bit better for early-mid game.

Phoenix' sunray got nerfsticked, thank god. Now when I pubstomp the pubs going against Phoenix wont go 0-10 in 7 minutes. Tuskar should've gotten hit harder imo.

Everything else is heh. I lol'd when Lina got her range upped to 625.
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 21:37:53
January 22 2011 21:34 GMT
#23022
On January 23 2011 05:59 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 01:52 JeeJee wrote:
On January 23 2011 01:01 Manit0u wrote:
@ TrainFX:

Your stats:
KDR: 0.77/1
K/D/A: 4.18/5.41/7.89
CK: 49.5
CD: 7.8
W: 1.3

Mine:
KDR: 0.66/1
K/D/A: 3.22/4.88/7.85
CK: 75.6
CD: 14.8
W: 3.5

How are you support?


comparing this by itself means nothing without game length and psr/win%, not to mention most played heros

~_~
Most played: Voodoo Jester, Pharoah, Glacius, Myrmidon, Plague Rider (4/5 hard supports)
K:D:A: 4.61:4.85:8.5
Creep Kills: 78.0
Creep Denies: 10.3
XP/Minute: 355.8
Wards Placed: 5.3
Game Length: 36.44
MMR: forever low because I'm queued against 1700+'s due to always queueing with dev/multi/cats/riki/gucci/etc ~___~
Does this show a support player?
How do I raise my MMR if I am always playing against higher ranked people? My win% is 53% but if I am playing people higher ranked than I am and winning half my games shouldn't my MMR be going up?


Well, in the long run yes, you would be going up but seeing as 53% is pretty close to 50%, and every game you win/lose you win/lose the same number of points, you probably won't be getting any higher any time soon statistically speaking.

In short: because you keep playing higher ranked people (which is where you real skill level is, I'm assuming), your win rate is going to always sit around 50%. To remedy that, you should play with people at your MMR skill, beat them most of the time, get your higher MMR, then go back to stagnating at the same level, only this time with a higher MMR.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 22 2011 21:48 GMT
#23023
On January 23 2011 06:34 DarkOptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 05:59 GhostKorean wrote:
On January 23 2011 01:52 JeeJee wrote:
On January 23 2011 01:01 Manit0u wrote:
@ TrainFX:

Your stats:
KDR: 0.77/1
K/D/A: 4.18/5.41/7.89
CK: 49.5
CD: 7.8
W: 1.3

Mine:
KDR: 0.66/1
K/D/A: 3.22/4.88/7.85
CK: 75.6
CD: 14.8
W: 3.5

How are you support?


comparing this by itself means nothing without game length and psr/win%, not to mention most played heros

~_~
Most played: Voodoo Jester, Pharoah, Glacius, Myrmidon, Plague Rider (4/5 hard supports)
K:D:A: 4.61:4.85:8.5
Creep Kills: 78.0
Creep Denies: 10.3
XP/Minute: 355.8
Wards Placed: 5.3
Game Length: 36.44
MMR: forever low because I'm queued against 1700+'s due to always queueing with dev/multi/cats/riki/gucci/etc ~___~
Does this show a support player?
How do I raise my MMR if I am always playing against higher ranked people? My win% is 53% but if I am playing people higher ranked than I am and winning half my games shouldn't my MMR be going up?


Well, in the long run yes, you would be going up but seeing as 53% is pretty close to 50%, and every game you win/lose you win/lose the same number of points, you probably won't be getting any higher any time soon statistically speaking.

In short: because you keep playing higher ranked people (which is where you real skill level is, I'm assuming), your win rate is going to always sit around 50%. To remedy that, you should play with people at your MMR skill, beat them most of the time, get your higher MMR, then go back to stagnating at the same level, only this time with a higher MMR.

That means I will be playing Solo Queue though... :\ and I'm a bit below the people I'm playing with I think
crudo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany36 Posts
January 22 2011 21:56 GMT
#23024
tl crudo
hon crudo
lol crudolol
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 22 2011 23:53 GMT
#23025
On January 23 2011 05:59 GhostKorean wrote:
Most played: Voodoo Jester, Pharoah, Glacius, Myrmidon, Plague Rider (4/5 hard supports)

3 hard supports, Pharaoh and Myrmidon really shouldn't be considered hard supports.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 22 2011 23:58 GMT
#23026
pharoah isn't, myrmidon is the way I play him
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
January 23 2011 00:03 GMT
#23027
On January 23 2011 08:58 GhostKorean wrote:
pharoah isn't, myrmidon is the way I play him


so is BB when I play him, goo+sny+skadi all over their face for support slow ezpz
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
January 23 2011 00:51 GMT
#23028
Arachna as a babysitter was pretty jokes.

Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
January 23 2011 02:32 GMT
#23029
27351996 (970+ gpm sb) in a regular ap ab game. TMM
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 23 2011 02:43 GMT
#23030
On January 23 2011 11:32 Dacendoran wrote:
27351996 (970+ gpm sb) in a regular ap ab game. TMM

3 bfury and 2 doombringers... hahahaha nice 1 assist
Blyadischa
Profile Joined April 2010
419 Posts
January 23 2011 03:11 GMT
#23031
On January 23 2011 05:59 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 01:52 JeeJee wrote:
On January 23 2011 01:01 Manit0u wrote:
@ TrainFX:

Your stats:
KDR: 0.77/1
K/D/A: 4.18/5.41/7.89
CK: 49.5
CD: 7.8
W: 1.3

Mine:
KDR: 0.66/1
K/D/A: 3.22/4.88/7.85
CK: 75.6
CD: 14.8
W: 3.5

How are you support?


comparing this by itself means nothing without game length and psr/win%, not to mention most played heros

~_~
Most played: Voodoo Jester, Pharoah, Glacius, Myrmidon, Plague Rider (4/5 hard supports)
K:D:A: 4.61:4.85:8.5
Creep Kills: 78.0
Creep Denies: 10.3
XP/Minute: 355.8
Wards Placed: 5.3
Game Length: 36.44
MMR: forever low because I'm queued against 1700+'s due to always queueing with dev/multi/cats/riki/gucci/etc ~___~
Does this show a support player?
How do I raise my MMR if I am always playing against higher ranked people? My win% is 53% but if I am playing people higher ranked than I am and winning half my games shouldn't my MMR be going up?


How to raise MMR, learn to play carries, and get babysat or go mid.

Honestly, while I am thankful for support players, players who mainly play support are not as good of players as most people in their rating region and usually only play support as an excuse to get carried.


Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2451 Posts
January 23 2011 03:20 GMT
#23032
Ooh ooh guys my KDR is 0.39 I'm the best support player

>_>
The original Bogus fan.
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
January 23 2011 03:22 GMT
#23033
If anyone was wondering (hon)TL clan officers are now
Grouty(me)
Pokebunny
Devaztayta
Mouse(riki)
Sunye
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
January 23 2011 03:32 GMT
#23034

LOOOOL Play #5 featuring my homeboy salsaisgreen (getting an assist) ^_^
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
manGomaGic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada94 Posts
January 23 2011 03:33 GMT
#23035
how does one get an invite to join clan tl on hon?

just curious.
Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 03:50:14
January 23 2011 03:43 GMT
#23036
On January 23 2011 12:22 iSiN wrote:
If anyone was wondering (hon)TL clan officers are now
Grouty(me)
Pokebunny
Devaztayta
Mouse(riki)
Sunye

You should put TL usernames as well
Grouty - iSiN
Pokebunny- Pokebunny
Devaztayta - Devaztayta
Mouse - Gazerocker
Sunye - GhostKorean


On January 23 2011 12:33 shimamoto wrote:
how does one get an invite to join clan tl on hon?

just curious.


Just PM one of us or ask us in game. Pretty much anyone can join if they ask
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 07:03:30
January 23 2011 06:50 GMT
#23037
On January 23 2011 12:11 Blyadischa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 05:59 GhostKorean wrote:
On January 23 2011 01:52 JeeJee wrote:
On January 23 2011 01:01 Manit0u wrote:
@ TrainFX:

Your stats:
KDR: 0.77/1
K/D/A: 4.18/5.41/7.89
CK: 49.5
CD: 7.8
W: 1.3

Mine:
KDR: 0.66/1
K/D/A: 3.22/4.88/7.85
CK: 75.6
CD: 14.8
W: 3.5

How are you support?


comparing this by itself means nothing without game length and psr/win%, not to mention most played heros

~_~
Most played: Voodoo Jester, Pharoah, Glacius, Myrmidon, Plague Rider (4/5 hard supports)
K:D:A: 4.61:4.85:8.5
Creep Kills: 78.0
Creep Denies: 10.3
XP/Minute: 355.8
Wards Placed: 5.3
Game Length: 36.44
MMR: forever low because I'm queued against 1700+'s due to always queueing with dev/multi/cats/riki/gucci/etc ~___~
Does this show a support player?
How do I raise my MMR if I am always playing against higher ranked people? My win% is 53% but if I am playing people higher ranked than I am and winning half my games shouldn't my MMR be going up?


How to raise MMR, learn to play carries, and get babysat or go mid.

Honestly, while I am thankful for support players, players who mainly play support are not as good of players as most people in their rating region and usually only play support as an excuse to get carried.




That's bullshit really. Spending all your time and money on counterwarding, warding, stacking jungle, assisting on kills while keeping deaths to the minimum, although you have no farm whatsoever, that's a tougher thing than playing a hardcarry.

Even for counterwarding, which seems like a pretty simple thing, it's often done wrong in the games I play, players will place the ward+counterward at the exact same spot, covering less area than if they placed the counterward in the middle. Also, figuring out where they warded takes observation and it's not always as obvious as it seems.

I would say semi-carries and gankers are the toughest role to play in general, since they require the most game sense, hardcarry the easiest.
ganjazerg
Profile Joined February 2010
82 Posts
January 23 2011 07:26 GMT
#23038

Honestly, while I am thankful for support players, players who mainly play support are not as good of players as most people in their rating region and usually only play support as an excuse to get carried.


reading that post just made me spit my redbull all over my notebook, slam both fists on the table, stand up, rip my shirt apart and throw the entire fucking table out of the window.

i hope someday you reach the skill level necessary to realise how wrong you are.

the reason i play mostly support, is because whenever i don't THERE IS NO FUCKING SUPPORT. warding is unconsistent and BADLY DONE, flying courier is bought at the 25 min mark, and the support attempts to farm and solo gank. thats the fucking problem. if my lowbob mates could play halfway decent support, i would carry them up to 1800 mmr easily, but the thing is they suck. so i carry them by playing proper support.

because YES... playing a hardcarry is actually VERY SIMPLE.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 23 2011 07:50 GMT
#23039
went to wgf, played horrible with my horrible teammates but it was still fun

i think demon's team won even though he had like a few friends that were still noob at the game + chouji
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
January 23 2011 07:52 GMT
#23040
wtf you came?
Stuck.
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