On January 26 2011 06:43 hideo wrote: I'm liking it... i have no idea how they'll set up their roster so this is all speculation, but I think it gives them more flexibility when they're picking side and mid solos now. Like they can pick a farmer now rather than utility/teamfighter/ganker to set up a dual carry strategy (like yaphets/zhou Nv.cn) rather than their traditional all-eggs-in-one-basket ZSMJ solo carry.
thats what i thought too, i thought it would be better when 830 joined since they could get more carries in but he ended up playing a lot of support and yyf is sticking to solo n' gank support and semicarries, and benz was a double support. they obviously made new strats to work with the team but their most effective batrider clockwerk always ended up getting banned. i've always thought zsmj to be the weakest out of burning-zhou-zsmj primarily because he isnt as versatile as burning (can play almost any type of carry) or zhou (hard carry + pugna + visage)
I dunno how this one will play out to be honest. Chinese teams are looking more and more like the NA teams of the past.
it's been hinted this time that money was the cause of the breakups, not losing, and china teams have always been shuffling before. compared to malaysia/sg dota which looks to be even more in a hole and possibly soon to be insignificant, chinas still well
On January 26 2011 06:43 hideo wrote: I'm liking it... i have no idea how they'll set up their roster so this is all speculation, but I think it gives them more flexibility when they're picking side and mid solos now. Like they can pick a farmer now rather than utility/teamfighter/ganker to set up a dual carry strategy (like yaphets/zhou Nv.cn) rather than their traditional all-eggs-in-one-basket ZSMJ solo carry.
thats what i thought too, i thought it would be better when 830 joined since they could get more carries in but he ended up playing a lot of support and yyf is sticking to solo n' gank support and semicarries, and benz was a double support. they obviously made new strats to work with the team but their most effective batrider clockwerk always ended up getting banned. i've always thought zsmj to be the weakest out of burning-zhou-zsmj primarily because he isnt as versatile as burning (can play almost any type of carry) or zhou (hard carry + pugna + visage)
I dunno how this one will play out to be honest. Chinese teams are looking more and more like the NA teams of the past.
it's been hinted this time that money was the cause of the breakups, not losing, and china teams have always been shuffling before. compared to malaysia/sg dota which looks to be even more in a hole and possibly soon to be insignificant, chinas still well
Not referring to the state of teams or losing, but rather players shifting around like crazy. A lot of the old NA players still play, just not competitively. Then again Chinese teams are much more specialized in their strategies and roles than the rest of the world, so it may be easier to insert and switch up teams.
On January 26 2011 08:13 paper wrote: What did OmgIRok get warned for lol ;o?
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[quote][QUOTE]On January 25 2011 16:09 [TYG]Transcend wrote: [QUOTE]On January 25 2011 15:56 DevAzTaYtA wrote: that's judicator in a nutshell, welcome to the hon thread.[/QUOTE]
Devaz! When DotA2 hits come back to meee!
Also it's DotA thread as well. >_>[/QUOTE]
No one is going to come back to you alright? You left TL, you FUCKINGtraitor stop QQing and just go play with your stupidass pos IHL and your other asian buddies YA DAS RITE
better not get warned again, last post the over-exaggerated hate was a signal to sarcasm
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because it got edited lol (i didn't edit it, i guess a mod did or sth) anyway guess i'll stop bashing tygs ;-; if i'm understanding this "ad hominem" concept correctly, it should be very ironic because i am asian as well
DK? Burning, KingJ, Sharingan, YaphetS all on the same team? When the heck did this happen?
a while ago, apparently dk got lots and lots of money or something. imo my theory is that wdc looked so good (even though people claim the management was bad) that a bunch of larger sponsors want to jump into dota now. but im not chinese so i dunno much
burning and kingj left ehome and benz left lgd a few weeks ago yaphets and kssss are friends or brothers (i dont know) so ksssss probably convinced yaphets to come.
ehome and nv.cn are in ruins since half of both teams just left. this looks like one of those all star lineups that could fail but who knows.
lgd is the only team that is relatively unscathed since imo benz wasn't that important, but i dont see chuan staying there for long anyway. i dunno what is up with deity either but they are relatively unimportant.
a lot of these chinese dota teams are sponsored by kids with rich dads in industry, and these rich kids spend money on dota teams at their discretion with no clear business plan. it's a rich kids playground kind of. this is true for dk, deity and to a lesser extent nv and lgd as well. ehome is the only "egaming club" team attached to a cybercafe business in beijing. however, not knowing anything about their business model i've no idea if they make any sort of profit from their dota branch.
anyway, i was rooting for dai to go to lgd, and he wanted to go as well because he and zsmj are bestest friends. however, apparently dai chose to stay in ehome when he got their manager to agree to never stop him from playing wow again. people can put to rest the idea that chinese dota players practice 12 hours a day. they dont.
unrelated guy donates sperm to lesbo couple, kids born. lesbians eventually split up. biological mother sue donator for child support. won the suit. isthisreallife
On January 26 2011 13:54 JeeJee wrote: unrelated guy donates sperm to lesbo couple, kids born. lesbians eventually split up. biological mother sue donator for child support. won the suit. isthisreallife
guess whos the donator
On January 26 2011 11:13 oneofthem wrote: a lot of these chinese dota teams are sponsored by kids with rich dads in industry, and these rich kids spend money on dota teams at their discretion with no clear business plan. it's a rich kids playground kind of. this is true for dk, deity and to a lesser extent nv and lgd as well. ehome is the only "egaming club" team attached to a cybercafe business in beijing. however, not knowing anything about their business model i've no idea if they make any sort of profit from their dota branch.
anyway, i was rooting for dai to go to lgd, and he wanted to go as well because he and zsmj are bestest friends. however, apparently dai chose to stay in ehome when he got their manager to agree to never stop him from playing wow again. people can put to rest the idea that chinese dota players practice 12 hours a day. they dont.
LGD.sgty are 2 actual companies, lgd is a sauce company and has sponsored many teams before (like gigabyte) and sgty is some game company.
lgd has a rich kid sponsor in charge as well in star, who is the son of the guy who owns lgd the condiment company. given his past behavior it's a little hard to take him seriously though.
the other sponsor in sgty is the company behind a chinese LoL clone game. they don't seem to have much involvement in the personnel decisions of the team though, so not sure how much money they actually give the team.
SIgh, me and a friend were queing as 2 in TMM in hon, we won like 11/13 games in a row then were absolutely crushing some pubs as SB/glacius and our sb has 780 gpm 4 runed axes and out of nowhere buys a doombringer (without saying anything to anyone), and dies the game failcascades from there and we lose 7 games in a row after, talk about a slump. Think im going to take a break form this game for a bit.
On January 26 2011 13:54 JeeJee wrote: unrelated guy donates sperm to lesbo couple, kids born. lesbians eventually split up. biological mother sue donator for child support. won the suit. isthisreallife
On January 26 2011 13:54 JeeJee wrote: unrelated guy donates sperm to lesbo couple, kids born. lesbians eventually split up. biological mother sue donator for child support. won the suit. isthisreallife
I see the days of this thread reamining open are numbered...lol. And that AAA video is so imba I dont think I can play for a few days until I get over my loss of self-worth!
On January 27 2011 11:30 SushilS wrote: I see the days of this thread reamining open are numbered...lol. And that AAA video is so imba I dont think I can play for a few days until I get over my loss of self-worth!
It's basically the same people posting in here every day so... yeah Maybe when Dota2 comes out
On January 27 2011 11:30 SushilS wrote: I see the days of this thread reamining open are numbered...lol. And that AAA video is so imba I dont think I can play for a few days until I get over my loss of self-worth!
Legitimate discussion over high-level DotA/HoN? This is one of the longest threads on TL without a whitelabel warning at the top.
On January 27 2011 11:30 SushilS wrote: I see the days of this thread reamining open are numbered...lol. And that AAA video is so imba I dont think I can play for a few days until I get over my loss of self-worth!
Legitimate discussion over high-level DotA/HoN? This is one of the longest threads on TL without a whitelabel warning at the top.
theres been plenty of legitimate discussion over striders and chalice and anyway, the post rate is slow compared to some other threads. hell, kpop thread is close to us now i remember when they were like 500 pages behind
On January 27 2011 11:30 SushilS wrote: I see the days of this thread reamining open are numbered...lol. And that AAA video is so imba I dont think I can play for a few days until I get over my loss of self-worth!
Legitimate discussion over high-level DotA/HoN? This is one of the longest threads on TL without a whitelabel warning at the top.
theres been plenty of legitimate discussion over striders and chalice and anyway, the post rate is slow compared to some other threads. hell, kpop thread is close to us now i remember when they were like 500 pages behind
If you check the start date on that thread and this thread, it's actually pretty scary. Think they went ahead and shitted up that thread too and the mods stepped.