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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
January 07 2011 03:43 GMT
#22701
What do you guys(hon players that are ex-dota players) think about wretched hag having a huge AoE nuke(ulti) that also puts shadow strike (slow/poison) on whoever it hits?

Imo it's pretty damn ridiculous, gives her so much more team fight potential
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
January 07 2011 03:46 GMT
#22702
shes a very strong semi-carry that if given a lead can do a lot of things. Most people max blink first, but I personally enjoy 4-1-4-2 by level 11. It reduces your blink mobility, but if you have good positioning you don't need to blink so quickly, and the slow helps a lot with chases/early team fights.
D8ms
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada88 Posts
January 07 2011 05:55 GMT
#22703
BreakCPK

Successfully DDoS'd haha
o.O
Blyadischa
Profile Joined April 2010
419 Posts
January 07 2011 06:01 GMT
#22704
On January 07 2011 12:46 Alventenie wrote:
shes a very strong semi-carry that if given a lead can do a lot of things. Most people max blink first, but I personally enjoy 4-1-4-2 by level 11. It reduces your blink mobility, but if you have good positioning you don't need to blink so quickly, and the slow helps a lot with chases/early team fights.


I think blink is way more useful, the slow should be only used for slow, not for damage, you probably won't even have enough mana to cast all your spells if you max out haunt, sometimes i even go 0-2-3-1 @ level 6, then get 1 in haunt, max out scream, 1 in haunt, then max out blink.
Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-07 06:04:51
January 07 2011 06:02 GMT
#22705
On January 07 2011 14:55 D8ms wrote:
BreakCPK

Successfully DDoS'd haha


seriously? hahaha. i was wondering what that was.

eg vs sk on live at hon home page

breaky putting the ignore on amingo lol
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
January 07 2011 06:04 GMT
#22706
The slow scales with levels, making it worthwhile to upgrade it. I have little mana problems with hag once i have a mana tube (after treads/nulls if necessary). Normally ill have treads bottle/power supply + a few mantles or nulls. Work towards a nullstone or guinsoo depending on what is needed first. I have little mana problems after level 7 or 8 once you can clear waves for nice cash.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
January 07 2011 06:11 GMT
#22707
On January 07 2011 15:04 Alventenie wrote:
The slow scales with levels, making it worthwhile to upgrade it. I have little mana problems with hag once i have a mana tube (after treads/nulls if necessary). Normally ill have treads bottle/power supply + a few mantles or nulls. Work towards a nullstone or guinsoo depending on what is needed first. I have little mana problems after level 7 or 8 once you can clear waves for nice cash.


Well I think the thing is, you don't really need the level 4 haunt when you can stick with level 2 or 3 at level 11 (2/3/4/2) because if hag went solo mid, she'll probably have a level/farm advantage and at that point not many other heroes will have the escape mechanisms to get away from a level 2/3 haunt
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
January 07 2011 06:57 GMT
#22708
Hey guys, I played DotA a loooong time ago, and now I'm looking at buying HoN. But I was just wondering if someone could give me a quick overview of the whole DotA vs HoN vs LoL thing - as far as gameplay differences, competitive aspect, or just in general. I've been reading around, but I figured I'd get the best info if I asked here.
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MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
January 07 2011 07:19 GMT
#22709
On January 03 2011 07:30 MYM.Testie wrote:
And a bench player we never wanted to use in clan wars for ToT).


ahhahaah Please link me this thread.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 07 2011 07:24 GMT
#22710
obligatory (lots of cursing)
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 07 2011 08:43 GMT
#22711
No, ever since they changed Hag in HoN so that slow is on the ult, it's just dumb to not go 4-1-4-2.
You're really not wasting your mana on blink very often as hag to roam around the map because of her mana pool, you want that mana pool to scream/ult with good positioning.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
January 07 2011 08:45 GMT
#22712
taking a break between games? haha
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17289 Posts
January 07 2011 08:51 GMT
#22713
On January 07 2011 15:57 Cofo wrote:
Hey guys, I played DotA a loooong time ago, and now I'm looking at buying HoN. But I was just wondering if someone could give me a quick overview of the whole DotA vs HoN vs LoL thing - as far as gameplay differences, competitive aspect, or just in general. I've been reading around, but I figured I'd get the best info if I asked here.


http://www.own3d.tv/live/9768

Just see for yourself.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
January 07 2011 08:53 GMT
#22714
also note that scream is a lot better in hon than in dota as the damage is instant, does not require line of sight and has slightly more range (higher cost at lower levels is barely noticeable).
makes all the difference for farming in lane and stopping jukes.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 07 2011 08:54 GMT
#22715
On January 07 2011 14:55 D8ms wrote:
BreakCPK

Successfully DDoS'd haha

You ruined game two lol
buckbo1604
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada186 Posts
January 07 2011 08:54 GMT
#22716
BOO YA TESTIE. GOO .. YA
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
January 07 2011 08:55 GMT
#22717
On January 07 2011 17:43 MYM.Testie wrote:
No, ever since they changed Hag in HoN so that slow is on the ult, it's just dumb to not go 4-1-4-2.
You're really not wasting your mana on blink very often as hag to roam around the map because of her mana pool, you want that mana pool to scream/ult with good positioning.


Oh so it's 4/1/4/2 for HoN
but it's possibly different in DotA? (maybe a 1/4/4/2 or 2/3/4/2)?
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
D8ms
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada88 Posts
January 07 2011 09:15 GMT
#22718
On January 07 2011 17:54 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 14:55 D8ms wrote:
BreakCPK

Successfully DDoS'd haha

You ruined game two lol


Nope, crashed him pre-game 1, and we left him alone

User was temp banned for this post.
o.O
Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
January 07 2011 09:20 GMT
#22719
this is the series that never ends...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-07 09:23:40
January 07 2011 09:22 GMT
#22720
On January 07 2011 17:55 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 17:43 MYM.Testie wrote:
No, ever since they changed Hag in HoN so that slow is on the ult, it's just dumb to not go 4-1-4-2.
You're really not wasting your mana on blink very often as hag to roam around the map because of her mana pool, you want that mana pool to scream/ult with good positioning.


Oh so it's 4/1/4/2 for HoN
but it's possibly different in DotA? (maybe a 1/4/4/2 or 2/3/4/2)?

i believe the haunt damage depends on the haunt level so its natural to max haunt before blink because of the damage and slow (?)
also the blink starts out higher (800 hon vs 700 dota at level 1) but level 4 is same range

anyway QoP level 6 in dota usually looks like
1/1/3/1

and QoP level 11
1/4/4/2

2/3/4/2 is possible also
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