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zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
July 07 2009 17:00 GMT
#1061
On July 08 2009 01:52 DBunny wrote:
Just released on steam 1 hour ago - Gamertag: SoMoteItB


no such user name..
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
DBunny
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada192 Posts
July 07 2009 17:22 GMT
#1062
Let me try searching you?
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-08 11:25:38
July 07 2009 17:41 GMT
#1063
avec [at] eo-gaming [dot] com

edit: hm nevermind its through microsoft live (how lame). does anyone know how I can change my gamertag?

my windows live ID: banglsven21
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
St0rmRush
Profile Joined February 2003
Brazil448 Posts
July 08 2009 17:39 GMT
#1064
On July 07 2009 14:42 Myrmidon wrote:
For keyboard execution, make sure your keyboard itself can handle reading multiple inputs at once properly. Sometimes it's not your execution as much as the hardware. Even if it works when you do a motion slowly, maybe that can be attributed to you letting go of keys in time so that others can be registered. Try a different keyboard or different button mapping and see if it helps.

When I use keyboard I use arrow keys for directions, but I just tried WASD for the first time in many years just for kicks. In emulated ST, I got a standing 360 motion first try (IIRC there's 4 frames pre-jump in ST). I seem to remember that I tried using WASD before on a different computer a long time ago, and it didn't work out so well then because that keyboard was locking up with those inputs.


hummm that could be the problem, multiple inputs... i ll try other keyboards. i ll also try changing to WASD


my only tip for performing combos on keyboard is "buy a stick or use a pad"
really though, I was never able to do 360s/720s (or even half circles) on a keyboard


i ll buy a PAD soon... 2 btw, so i can play with friends over my house ^^


Instead of doing F D HP DF HP I just c.HP and SRK really quickly afterwards, because you can press the buttons really sloppily on a keyboard in SF4 compared to 3S on GGPO or w/e. And HCB is so much easier now, I couldn't even do it 100% of the time in 3s. Now, if you have the movement on WASD you can press D, S, A, release D, release S. Which doesn't translate as a half circle on a stick at all. Also don't play 720 characters on keyboard . Maybe you could on the SF4 input engine I haven't really gotten around to try it, but it was a frickin nightmare in 3s.


thast what i do, c. HP, SRK but i still cannot do it right. I think i ll change to WASD to see if it is multiple inputs problem...
i can do HCB just fine on SF4, you just have to get timing correctly, which is easy to do. i ll give up on 720s or im gonna break my keyboard lol
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 08 2009 23:25 GMT
#1065
Yes SF4 has mad input leniency.
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 08 2009 23:33 GMT
#1066
I was quite surprised when I first tried to shoryuken and a super came out.
No I'm never serious.
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
July 09 2009 19:42 GMT
#1067
With next to nothing experience on previous titles, I got this few days ago.

Keyboard wasn't as bad as I expected (360, 720 and those few other moves were about impossible though) but bad enough, so I decided to get pad since most of the keys I used for attacks conflicted and the inputs didn't register from everything limiting some combo possibilities etc.

With pad some stuff feels still a bit hard to pull off, but at least its possible. Charge characters for example seem to randomly accept the moves but I guess thats just my inexperience, while most others seem to react just fine.

So far I'm enojying it, unlocked most characters (except for Akuma, Gouken and Seth... few tries on Akuma, but I always end up lacking one first strike or losing barely to Seth, meh) and some other stuff.

GFWL seems to be down or bugging since it won't let me use online features and sometimes whines about random stuff, which is rather annoying. I guess I'll stick to trials and other practise stuff before going online anyway though.
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1303 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-11 02:02:48
July 11 2009 02:01 GMT
#1068
Newbie question: the game seems to run on like "slowest" and is like 30% of the old SF speed, but i cannot find any setting for that anywhere?? I don't think it's a performance issue since it runs smooth, yet way too slow.

EDIT:
This is the Speed I'm looking for and its like 30% of that.
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
July 11 2009 02:10 GMT
#1069
On July 11 2009 11:01 Chosi wrote:
Newbie question: the game seems to run on like "slowest" and is like 30% of the old SF speed, but i cannot find any setting for that anywhere?? I don't think it's a performance issue since it runs smooth, yet way too slow.

EDIT:
This is the Speed I'm looking for and its like 30% of that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4WZUKbIzAo


I would suggest trying the Benchmarking tool and seeing what grade you get.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1303 Posts
July 11 2009 13:48 GMT
#1070
Benchmark gives me solid 30fps all the time, think its limited to that somewhere since it stays at exactly 30. But as I said, game runs smooth, so I dont think its a performance thing. Its just slow, really slow.
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 11 2009 14:44 GMT
#1071
30 fps are not sufficient, you might want to aim for 60. VSync is probably activated which keeps the framerate steady at whatever rate your computer can handle. Deactivate vsync and run the benchmark again.
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1303 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-11 15:11:03
July 11 2009 15:05 GMT
#1072
What makes you believe this is about performance? I mean I am very sure it's not. Think about it like you play a shooter or wow or anything and you just walk instead of running. This does not effect fps in any way nor is it being caused by lack of fps.

EDIT: typo
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 11 2009 16:24 GMT
#1073
Easy way to unlock all the characters is just set it to Easiest and one round, choose someone like Ryu and spam hadouken for first hits.

Benchmark gives me solid 30fps all the time, think its limited to that somewhere since it stays at exactly 30. But as I said, game runs smooth, so I dont think its a performance thing. Its just slow, really slow.


I had the same "slow" problem so it's definitely performance issue. Once I turned down settings and had it running at 60fps it was fine.

No I'm never serious.
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 11 2009 17:00 GMT
#1074
On July 12 2009 00:05 Chosi wrote:
What makes you believe this is about performance? I mean I am very sure it's not. Think about it like you play a shooter or wow or anything and you just walk instead of running. This does not effect fps in any way nor is it being caused by lack of fps.

EDIT: typo


It is about performance.

You don't play street fighter 4 without 60 fps. This is not wow or a shooter.

I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 11 2009 17:00 GMT
#1075
On July 12 2009 00:05 Chosi wrote:
What makes you believe this is about performance? I mean I am very sure it's not. Think about it like you play a shooter or wow or anything and you just walk instead of running. This does not effect fps in any way nor is it being caused by lack of fps.

EDIT: typo


There is no such thing as different gamespeeds in sf4 so it's either a performance issue (it's only a benchmark anyway - a video and not the actual game) or a weird bug. I ran the benchmark on a friend's computer and the game was over in like 10 seconds cuz he had way more than 100 frames/sec.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 11 2009 18:31 GMT
#1076
i like how it is a lack of fps
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-11 19:41:36
July 11 2009 19:37 GMT
#1077
On July 12 2009 00:05 Chosi wrote:
What makes you believe this is about performance? I mean I am very sure it's not. Think about it like you play a shooter or wow or anything and you just walk instead of running. This does not effect fps in any way nor is it being caused by lack of fps.

EDIT: typo

Many 3D games can run at the same speed at any framerate.

2D fighters, however, require a FIXED framerate of 60 fps, because the game is designed to update exactly 60 times per second.

This is why people talk about "frame data" in 2D fighters. E.g. a move like Sagat's uppercut always takes exactly 3 frames to "start-up", then on the 4th frame it can hit the opponent. If your game is running at 30 fps instead of 60, then Sagat's uppercut will take twice as long to start-up: in fact, everything in the game will take twice as long.

In theory, such a game COULD run at 30 fps by updating the game at 60 fps but updating the on-screen image at only 30 fps, i.e. displaying every other frame. However, in a competitive situation, this would be unacceptable: every frame must be displayed.
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 11 2009 21:53 GMT
#1078
On July 12 2009 04:37 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2009 00:05 Chosi wrote:
What makes you believe this is about performance? I mean I am very sure it's not. Think about it like you play a shooter or wow or anything and you just walk instead of running. This does not effect fps in any way nor is it being caused by lack of fps.

EDIT: typo

Many 3D games can run at the same speed at any framerate.

2D fighters, however, require a FIXED framerate of 60 fps, because the game is designed to update exactly 60 times per second.

This is why people talk about "frame data" in 2D fighters. E.g. a move like Sagat's uppercut always takes exactly 3 frames to "start-up", then on the 4th frame it can hit the opponent. If your game is running at 30 fps instead of 60, then Sagat's uppercut will take twice as long to start-up: in fact, everything in the game will take twice as long.

In theory, such a game COULD run at 30 fps by updating the game at 60 fps but updating the on-screen image at only 30 fps, i.e. displaying every other frame. However, in a competitive situation, this would be unacceptable: every frame must be displayed.


If you use the fixed framerate setting in sf4, it will behave like any other game (speed independent of frames, it will simply use frameskips). But yes, even with the fixed framerate, the game should only be played at 60 fps.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
July 11 2009 22:28 GMT
#1079
I've been playing SF4 on the 360 for months, and just picked up the PC version to run a couple tests. I have a feeling online play would be pretty savage on the PC version. I have a G15, and programmed a couple of macros just to see what was possible. I was messing around with Zangief and successfully programmed his 5-hit B&B combo and a standing 720 into the keyboard. Pretty vicious possibilities, good thing I'm not planning on playing the PC version =]
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Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 11 2009 22:34 GMT
#1080
On July 12 2009 07:28 Excalibur_Z wrote:
I've been playing SF4 on the 360 for months, and just picked up the PC version to run a couple tests. I have a feeling online play would be pretty savage on the PC version. I have a G15, and programmed a couple of macros just to see what was possible. I was messing around with Zangief and successfully programmed his 5-hit B&B combo and a standing 720 into the keyboard. Pretty vicious possibilities, good thing I'm not planning on playing the PC version =]


ouch....
ehhh, brb!

*goes out to buy a g15*
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
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