EPTWithout these changes, I've stuck to Starcraft 2. I haven't requested a refund yet, but I won't be recommending this game to anyone.
Peace
[Interview] The WarCraft 3 sales pitch w/ RotterdaM - Page 2
| Forum Index > General Games |
|
LuckyChoW
4 Posts
Without these changes, I've stuck to Starcraft 2. I haven't requested a refund yet, but I won't be recommending this game to anyone. Peace | ||
|
iokke
United States1179 Posts
On February 21 2020 12:09 LuckyChoW wrote: I purchased a copy of Warcraft 3. If they wanted me to give it a chance, they maybe could've taken the time to tweak the economy so wood wasn't such a useless resource, and to add Progress Bars, Health Bars, and customizable hotkeys. I could never get the customizable hotkeys file to work for me. Without these changes, I've stuck to Starcraft 2. I haven't requested a refund yet, but I won't be recommending this game to anyone. Peace If you get the chance give the game bit more time. Wood is certainly not useless, it needs to be managed. I'm not sure what you refer to for progress bars but health bars are there (either hold alt, or go into menu and select always show health bars). Agree on customizable hotkeys but tbh the files/presets on Reddit are good and it's easy to activate (don't forget to set keys to custom in menu). Personally hope wc3 takes off a bit, I have fun playing even with bugs.. although lately switching to classic graphics cause of fps drops | ||
|
Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On February 21 2020 12:09 LuckyChoW wrote: I purchased a copy of Warcraft 3. If they wanted me to give it a chance, they maybe could've taken the time to tweak the economy so wood wasn't such a useless resource, and to add Progress Bars, Health Bars, and customizable hotkeys. I could never get the customizable hotkeys file to work for me. Without these changes, I've stuck to Starcraft 2. I haven't requested a refund yet, but I won't be recommending this game to anyone. Peace WTF? By all means play whichever game you enjoy more, but the bold is complete nonsense. Health bars absolutely are in the game as well. Sounds like you didn't take Rotti's last paragraph to heart either. | ||
|
Aesto
44 Posts
On February 21 2020 12:09 LuckyChoW wrote: I purchased a copy of Warcraft 3. If they wanted me to give it a chance, they maybe could've taken the time to tweak the economy so wood wasn't such a useless resource, and to add Progress Bars, Health Bars, and customizable hotkeys. I could never get the customizable hotkeys file to work for me. Without these changes, I've stuck to Starcraft 2. I haven't requested a refund yet, but I won't be recommending this game to anyone. Peace The game does have health bars (press Alt, or turn them on permanently in the menu), the customizable hotkeys are better than SC2 (you can change not only the hotkeys but also the position of the icons, which is amazing) and they've been tweaking the game for 17 years, and in that time, nobody has ever had a problem with how wood works o.O This is just the typical mob mentality of the gamer community whenever a game has some issues on launch. It's ridiculously overblown. They need to fix the join bug and add ladder stats, but everything else is not much of a problem. And the underlying game has always been amazing. Great interview. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
I'm not sure if it's been changed since I last read up on it, but it's definitely troubling. Chances are that much like RM, the team will be downsized once a certain amount of time passes and the players will be stuck with whatever state the game is in with extremely slow-released patches. Who knows though, maybe the huge backlash they got will do some good though. Best to wait and see. Hope the players who enjoy the game still manage to do it. | ||
|
Bomzj
Belarus24 Posts
| ||
|
capacityex
27 Posts
| ||
|
TheDougler
Canada8323 Posts
| ||
|
HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Also on topic: A fantastic interview, as expected from Rotti & Wax. As a Moon fanboy, I surely would have recommended some of his awesome multi expand or zeppelin micro games. | ||
|
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
Despite WarCraft being an incredibly deep and competitive RTS, it's always been a really tough sell to try and get StarCraft II fans to watch. So, we enlisted the help of Rotterdam—perhaps the biggest combined fan of SC2 and War3 in the entire world—to help with this sales pitch. I'm not gonna support Blizzard evil strategies. What they did with the launch, EULA and other things is unforgivable. So while I loved the interview and enjoyed, nope, nope, nope. Unless they pay me really well. | ||
|
sneakyfox
8218 Posts
On February 21 2020 04:26 TL.net ESPORTS wrote: *This interview has been edited and condensed. Not sure I believe that  | ||
|
Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
Would love to see a warcraft 3 subsection in "other games". | ||
|
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
I'm not going to buy reforged for several reasons , mainly I don't have enough time to game anymore. I'm conflicted about watching the tournament though, i'm fairly anti Activision-Blizzard but I have fond memories of Dreamhack and Rotterdam talking about the deep strategy behind engagements and creep farming sounds cool. Plus it's just a video game right so who gives a fuck. I'll stick it on in the background while I work, like I do with most tournaments these days. | ||
|
JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
Grubby's channel is interesting to watch, I particularly enjoy the games where he play silly unorthodox strategies based on viewer requests. https://www.youtube.com/user/FollowGrubby I would describe WC3 as somewhere between Street Fighter and Starcraft, where the positioning of armies on a larger scale is important, but so is preserving every unit and dodging individual "punches and kicks". | ||
|
Adnapsc2
47 Posts
| ||
|
Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On February 21 2020 20:52 Adnapsc2 wrote: What is the point to listen the opinion of somebody being paid by blizzard? If at least the guy didnt defend a player banned from wcs recently.. Warcraft 3 is a failure according to most part of the fans. Its pointless to deny this reality. Warcraft 3 is pretty much a perfect game, nobody thinks it's a failure. Reforged launched as a failed remake, but the core game is brilliant and the tournament scene and community is doing well and was already doing well before Reforged or EPT were a thing. Everybody should check it out if they haven't already. | ||
|
Adnapsc2
47 Posts
On February 21 2020 21:17 Musicus wrote: Warcraft 3 is pretty much a perfect game, nobody thinks it's a failure. Reforged launched as a failed remake, but the core game is brilliant and the tournament scene and community is doing well and was already doing well before Reforged or EPT were a thing. Everybody should check it out if they haven't already. Yeah, the core game is cool. I was talking about reforged. 30 euros for this? lol | ||
|
Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On February 21 2020 21:27 Adnapsc2 wrote: Yeah, the core game is cool. I was talking about reforged. 30 euros for this? lol Yeah there is most certainly no need to buy reforged at all. Not worth the money if you have classic keys already. But if you use ctrl + f and type reforged you will see that reforged is not even mentioned once in the interview. They are talking about wc3 the esport, Rotti never did any advertising for reforged or defended Blizzard. | ||
|
WombaT
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
On February 21 2020 20:52 Adnapsc2 wrote: What is the point to listen the opinion of somebody being paid by blizzard? If at least the guy didnt defend a player banned from wcs recently.. Warcraft 3 reforged is a failure according to most part of the fans. Its pointless to deny this reality. Is he wrong about what made WC3 special to him? Which is most of what the interview talked about. It is worth noting that ESL announced WC3 was part of their circuit a good bit before Reforged actually launched. I’m sure some of the casting and player talent that committed to such ventures are as pissed as many of the rest of us with the Reforged launch, but it’s difficult to savage something when you’ve got skin in the game, maybe contracts at play etc. | ||
|
BlueStar
Bulgaria1177 Posts
On February 21 2020 21:17 Musicus wrote: Warcraft 3 is pretty much a perfect game, nobody thinks it's a failure. Reforged launched as a failed remake, but the core game is brilliant and the tournament scene and community is doing well and was already doing well before Reforged or EPT were a thing. Everybody should check it out if they haven't already. A perfect game with about 30 balance patches in the course of about 5 years, doesn't sound so perfect to me. And WC:Refunded is a joke. | ||
| ||
