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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-11 21:09:49
May 11 2023 20:54 GMT
#1401
"Unofficial" Patch notes for the Server Slam event are up.... nerfs galore.

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/unofficial-diablo-4-server-slam-0-9-patch-notes-332908
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17844 Posts
May 11 2023 23:32 GMT
#1402


I've found that pretty hilarious. And the fact it mirrors my fears about the game so accurately is unnerving...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8707 Posts
May 12 2023 08:05 GMT
#1403
On May 12 2023 05:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
"Unofficial" Patch notes for the Server Slam event are up.... nerfs galore.

https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/unofficial-diablo-4-server-slam-0-9-patch-notes-332908


I think they should just give every skill a 5 minute cooldown. That would certainly balance the classes.

I'm not going to play the upcoming beta. I have seen everything I needed to not purchase the game anytime soon. There is some fun to be had exploring the world with the dungeons, hidden outposts etc. but that's not worth the 70 bucks and I also fear the game will be way too drawn out for the sake of being drawn out.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 12 2023 18:57 GMT
#1404
Game is up.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46457 Posts
May 12 2023 19:29 GMT
#1405
Zero wait time, no queue? Oh hell yeah.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-13 00:10:12
May 12 2023 20:03 GMT
#1406
Jeez.... the Rogue seems slower than last. Also appears there are more enemy varieties than last.

edit: And level 20.... how do we claim said rewards.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17844 Posts
May 13 2023 01:40 GMT
#1407
Love the comments people have after this patch:


Druid isn’t a class. It’s a difficulty setting.

I don't understand how they fuck up the balance so badly. I don't care if druid gets fucking nuts later in the game because I won't be able to get through the early game without wanting to kill myself every 5 minutes.


Way to go with balancing your classes in the early game Blizzard...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8707 Posts
May 13 2023 08:55 GMT
#1408
On May 13 2023 10:40 Manit0u wrote:
Love the comments people have after this patch:

Show nested quote +

Druid isn’t a class. It’s a difficulty setting.

I don't understand how they fuck up the balance so badly. I don't care if druid gets fucking nuts later in the game because I won't be able to get through the early game without wanting to kill myself every 5 minutes.


Way to go with balancing your classes in the early game Blizzard...


Wouldn't be so bad if that was the actual difficulty level. Imho it's more fun if you actually have to pay a little bit attention to what is happening on your screen. However, since classes like necromancer and sorc are just steam-rolling everything so hard, you could do it on the second monitor while watching a movie on the first monitor, things like druid might feel of in comparison. I mean, compared to D2, it would be literally like giving the D2 sorc blizzard, chain lightning, frozen orb, fireball etc. at level 4 _and_ applying automated free mana potions every 2 seconds...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 13 2023 09:12 GMT
#1409
Necromancer skels don't even last through fights with regular mobs...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
May 13 2023 14:25 GMT
#1410
Is the barbarian better now?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46457 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-13 15:09:05
May 13 2023 14:54 GMT
#1411
On May 13 2023 10:40 Manit0u wrote:
Love the comments people have after this patch:

Show nested quote +

Druid isn’t a class. It’s a difficulty setting.

I don't understand how they fuck up the balance so badly. I don't care if druid gets fucking nuts later in the game because I won't be able to get through the early game without wanting to kill myself every 5 minutes.


Way to go with balancing your classes in the early game Blizzard...


Honestly, I didn't find playing as the druid that difficult for the first 20 levels, even on the harder/veteran mode. Mobs are very easy with a variety of nature/elemental attacks (didn't try the werebear/werewolf as in depth, because I wanted ranged attack options). The defensive skills are really strong (near-infinite health with blood howl, armor options, etc.) and upgraded wolf (companion) attacks even make bosses manageable too. It's kind of hilarious seeing your wolves fly across the screen and deal 300+ damage for free.

I found the barbarian to be way more restrictive and frustrating to play as, especially during the utter chaos of boss fights, with dangerous shit happening all over the place and the boss being permanently out of my range.

I really like the variety that both the sorc and druid seem to offer. The sorc is definitely stronger, but I think the druid is absolutely playable if you're willing to press more buttons and able to keep track of more skill cooldowns.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 13 2023 15:09 GMT
#1412
Omg a miracle just occurred! Someone else actually used/responded to the chat in game! Of course we're waiting for Ashava to spawn, which is less than an hour away. But still...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
May 13 2023 16:20 GMT
#1413
Well that first Ashava wasa disaster, 15 minute countdown ran out and still had more than half HP. Can't say I'm hyped...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 13 2023 16:25 GMT
#1414
Same here. Plus my equipment was shattered.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3272 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-13 17:42:28
May 13 2023 17:37 GMT
#1415
Haven't played Barbarian, but from playing Druid and Rogue the problem is melee hate. Both are perfectly playable for the most part, but the differences between melee skill builds and ranged skill builds in boss fights are ridiculous.

Bosses really need to stop tracking players with their hits so you can capitalize on longer animations as melee. As ranged I can just shift away and dps through the bosses long aoe animation, as melee I can't just move to a spot where it doesn't hit me cause the boss will turn instantaneously during his animation, so I'm always either trading hits or waiting for anims to end.

Bosses are also multitudes more dangerous to melee builds than average groups, so you either go hybrid just to deal with bosses or play the game two difficulties higher than everyone else. Bosses really need openings for melees, they have a ton of openings for ranged.
On May 12 2023 08:32 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D15b-Nli_0I

I've found that pretty hilarious. And the fact it mirrors my fears about the game so accurately is unnerving...

Not much substantial criticism unless you are hyped for character creation in top-down ARPGs. Yeah I have more options in most 3d RPGs, but there are few games I care less about character customization. I also don't mind at all that they decided to give more realistic looking character options rather than the average Korean MMO K-Pop-model.

I also find it funny that he criticizes D4's skill tree to then recommend playing Inquisitor, which doesn't even have skills for half of the classes. Not that I'm particularly impressed by D4's tree tbh, at least compared to the ones that put a lot of work into their skill tree like LE and GD.

Monetization is everyone's guess at the end of the day, but tbh I wouldn't mind if they continued to develop small story DLCs that you can buy, ARPGs tend to run a bit out of interesting stuff in lategame imo. Not sure how open ended and satisfying the main storyline is going to be though.
low gravity, yes-yes!
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-13 20:23:50
May 13 2023 20:20 GMT
#1416
On May 13 2023 10:40 Manit0u wrote:
Love the comments people have after this patch:

Show nested quote +

Druid isn’t a class. It’s a difficulty setting.

I don't understand how they fuck up the balance so badly. I don't care if druid gets fucking nuts later in the game because I won't be able to get through the early game without wanting to kill myself every 5 minutes.


Way to go with balancing your classes in the early game Blizzard...


I thought they buffed druid? I played necromancer and druid during the March beta, both to 25. The druid wasn't that weak back then. The bigger problem was how anti-melee the story bosses are. Doing regular dungeons, it wasn't that much weaker than necromancers. And that was me giving both werewolf and werebear a try. Furthermore, necromancers have access to their book of the dead. The druid class quest is in a later act (act 2, I think).
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 13 2023 23:34 GMT
#1417
Guess the Devs did not play the game before the Server Slam...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9592 Posts
May 14 2023 05:59 GMT
#1418
Gentlemen, they really took the beta feedback to heart.
Community: Druid needs changes
Rod Fergusson: Got it, we'll nerf him even more.
Rod Fergusson:
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
May 14 2023 09:17 GMT
#1419
Ashava done by switching difficulty to World Tier I. Even so there were only two minutes left. Still insta-kills you so it took two trips to the blacksmith, but at least she finally goes down to damage.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
May 14 2023 11:14 GMT
#1420
Made the mistake of trying ashava on my hardcore sorc, that ended quickly and pitifully. Came back with a non hard core ranged rogue and got the kill, definitely recommend world tier I, not sure world tier II is possible this weekend
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